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Where were you? (part four)

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    Mar 14, 2009 2:33 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Linda, you're kidding of course!

    First of all it was not mean nor was it intended to be mean and I think shep posted it to give so everyone can see that the environment he came from was kind of had an influence on his work today.

    I would not post images of my environment as that is not going to make anyone proud of this country as it clearly looked like what we describe as the third world.

    In other words you are out of line.
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 2:36 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I don't know Wade, I read it the same way that Linda did. Perhaps what you meant didn't fully translate into the words we read?
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 3:11 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    it was an observation about what influenced shep the house is in fact quite ordinary.

    Look the place i grew up in is not something one could really be proud of and it would be hard to find it endearing. All these things influence our work there is no harm in pointing out the such.

    If you take things so personal it is not my fault. I doubt that shep took it that way.
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 3:31 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Kath that is quite picturesque compared to the place I come from.

    I don't know if I should show it besides they have to some extent fixed the place a bit.
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 3:57 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    If you take things so personal it is not my fault.
    have no fear, I don't generally take things on the net very personally! ;)

    I haven't located a photo of my old house ... I'll see if I can find one in my photo travels ...
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 6:26 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Kath, Very cool that your cousin tracked down your grandmother's house. Must be rather nostalgic to allow the imagination to explore.

    Wade, I'm sure you meant no harm. It seemed a little demeaning to Shep when I first read your post, but I don't think you meant it to be. Men seem to like to joke that way. Us women tend to be more concerned about feelings and how things are taken, especially when it comes to something sentimental.

    I have a picture of the first house I lived in if I can find it. I sometimes go visit the lady (now elderly) who still lives in the house across the street to this day.

    Hopper, Look forward to seeing your house. Your's too Wade.
     
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    Mar 14, 2009 8:19 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Well Linda maybe I was referring to something that is simply eluding you and it might be best not to worry about something you do not quite get.

    shep made a joke about it and I found it interesting to learn something about the artist.

    Perhaps you will see it at some point in time. It would have been an interesting exchange of ideas. I am afraid that opportunity has past.

    Peter that is an interesting cluster of structures.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 1:59 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Brilliant!
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 5:15 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I was in Venice a few years ago and though certain very heavily trafficked areas had to constantly be cleaned up like the area near the Train Station and a little bit near Rialto and the market the rest of the town was much cleaner then those photos would indicate. <br /> <br />Also in the past the city had a reputation for smelling rather poorly but I was there during their record breaking heat wave and it was and again it was not at all foul smelling. <br /> <br />They either cleaned up their at a lot or we saw the place very differently. <br /> <br />I should say it was not spotless but it was not like those photos indicate. <br /> <br />This is what Venice looks like 2003: <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1un6KuyiuCPhFnRu2gvRE a57XdCZ7o1" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1un6KuyiuCPhFnRu2gvREa57XdCZ7o1_ thumb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1Wthpmxio0l1yy9LO5VHo S94rCHS7" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1Wthpmxio0l1yy9LO5VHoS94rCHS7_th umb.jpg" border="0" />
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:35 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    And like this <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1MiQ2b77iYT8I0z06D2jt ODOmAo0" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1MiQ2b77iYT8I0z06D2jtODOmAo0_thu mb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=16m9pzdNDrlejkQJjOGmj Ottj5gPQg" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/16m9pzdNDrlejkQJjOGmjOttj5gPQg_t humb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />What I saw in Peters photos was more like London's Soho after market hours.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 11:37 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Peter, Sounds like your house has historical relevance as well as sentimental.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 11:53 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    The house I grew up in, then and now.

    Easy to do since I moved back to the same town when I returned from overseas. (I don't wear trousers like that any more though!)

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    Mar 15, 2009 12:45 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Now there you go John understands architectural photography the sense of space not just a good composition, the placement in the frame, an orientation to a viewers eye, clarity of the message.

    Well done but next time John post the image on http://www.pixentral.com and copy and paste the link information from the top text field under the posted image into your message instead of the image and that will give us a thumbnail that will link us to the Pixentral page where your image is posted. It saves band width for the Adobe Forum site.

    Well done john and that is a charming house.

    BTW shep I thought your house was also charming in the same way as John's house each having its own unique vernacular! And both a bit mundane in their context.

    Linda that does not mean what it sounds like to you! Also keep in mind that I m praising John's photography even though he does not care much for my work even though the styles we have are similar. It only means he sees things bout his own work in my work and is being critical of it because he is objective.

    It is a good process and the way to learn and grow.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 4:54 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    John, i was thinking you had the really nice backyard garden habitat, but that shot of the front of the house leaves me wondering if i am thinking of the same person here on the forums? not a bad home, but i dont envision the greenery i recall seeing out back. maybe i have the wrong person?
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:25 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Don't sweat it, Wade. I appreciate your insights. I was formed---for better or worse---more by my family and friends than the house I grew up in.

    I actually thought (fondly) of the area (houses) as described in that song, "Little Boxes" that I referenced. For those who might not be familiar with it, here's the lyrics. Preceded John Mellencamps "Little PInk Houses" by a few decades.

    Little boxes on the hillside,
    Little boxes made of ticky tacky
    Little boxes on the hillside,
    Little boxes all the same,
    Theres a pink one & a green one
    And a blue one & a yellow one
    And they are all made out of ticky tacky
    And they all look just the same.

    And the people in the houses
    All went to the university
    Where they were put in boxes
    And they came out all the same
    And theres doctors & lawyers
    And business executives
    And they are all made out of ticky tacky
    And they all look just the same.

    And they all play on the golf course
    And drink their martinis dry
    And they all have pretty children
    And the children go to school,
    And the children go to summer camp
    And then to the university
    Where they´re put in boxes
    And they come out all the same.

    And the boys go into business
    And marry & raise a family
    In boxes made of ticky tacky
    And they all look just the same,
    Theres a pink one & a green one
    And a blue one & a yellow one
    And they are all made out of ticky tacky
    And they all look just the same.

    ~~~"Little Boxes", Malvina Reynolds
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:28 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    This is cool though---seeing some of the houses and such that some of you grew up in as well.

    Thanks Kath and Oz and John for posting those English houses. It's kinda' how I imagined some English neighborhoods. I enjoyed seeing them.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:31 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    >Wade, I'm sure you meant no harm. It seemed a little demeaning to Shep...

    Thanks, Linda. You're so sweet. Whether Wade was poking actual fun or not, it doesn't bother me. Water off a ducks back---me, being the duck. :)

    >I sometimes go visit the lady (now elderly) who still lives in the house across the street to this day.

    I don't doubt that. :)
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:34 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    > Mine too! I never ceased to be amazed how my parents managed to raise 6 children in what was then a 2 bedroom house! We "finished" the upstairs and put all 4 girls up there, the 2 boys in the one lower room and my parents in the other. All that with only one bathroom too! (at least it was an indoor bathroom )

    >It's a good thing we had a city park just down the street from us. In the summers, when we had to go to a wedding/graduation/christening etc, my mom would send the kids to the pool to use their showers so we could all be ready at once.

    I love that story in the second paragraph! :) It was amazing, wasn't it, Hopper? Same thing in our house with four boys, we had to do a lot of compromise and have patience.

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    I'm done. Four posts in a row is enough.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 7:37 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Ooops...I lied.
    %(

    I think you have the right person, but the wrong house, Donald. From what I can reckon, that's the house John grew up in, not the house he lives in now.
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 10:49 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I'm pretty sure that's right. Thanks Shep - but boarded up and falling down isn't all that typical :)
     
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    Mar 15, 2009 11:16 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    This is where I grew up it was worse when there were buildings instead of the vacant lot but there was a time when it was a very stable area and believe it or not there was a time when very famous movie stars even had apartments so they would not have to travel into Manhattan when they were filming as the area is very close to Biograph's Sound Studios. <br /> <br />Biograph had some pretty well known stars Douglas Fairbanks, Lillian Gish and so on their original Studio was in Manhattan on 14 Street at 5th Avenue. the studio in the Bronx was the world's largest film studio outside of Hollywood. The Bronx is actually where the motion picture industry started. Edison built his studio there and it rotated so as to take advantage of the sunlight. The Biograh studio was later sold and the name was changed to Gold Medal Studio and one of their more famous film's was Butterfield 8 with Elizabeth Taylor. <br /> <br />Lots of well known people come from that area including I guess the most famous one is Al Pacino who attended the Junior High but of course a few years before me. My step mother knew him! That is kind of joke, but she really knew him. He was in my step brothers class. <br /> <br />Oh, yes Lamb Chops comes from the area as well Shari Lewis went to the same Junior High. <br /> <br />This is what it looked like in 1980 can you picture limousines? <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1yqh8jvNEEtk9otOBJ8az tBN5VzuG" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1yqh8jvNEEtk9otOBJ8aztBN5VzuG_th umb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Most of the people who originally lived there worked at the studio I am told and many of my school mates moved to LA as their parents work in motion pictures. <br /> <br />There are now private homes of very modest value in this place. During the time I lived there it became one of the most dangerous places on the plane to live in.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 4:25 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    > The house I grew up in, then and now.

    > Easy to do since I moved back to the same town when I returned from overseas.

    John, How nice that you still live in the house where you grew up. Looks like you've done a good job of keeping your house up. Were you in the service?

    Wade, I find the brick roads to be interesting. They have a certain charm about them. It would be interesting to see what it looks like now.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 5:58 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Just to clear things up I am not in that house (The Haven) any more. <br /> <br />The present house (with the nice garden) is Atlantis. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1cKEARFGszwNrWlaUmvp9 5mWKJanZ9" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1cKEARFGszwNrWlaUmvp95mWKJanZ9_t humb.jpg" border="0" />
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 6:47 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Cobble stones not brick. I think it is now gone.

    No one has ever described anything about that place as being charming.

    Although I thought the trolley cars were fun.

    The first time I saw a trolley car I mistook it for a dragon with two mouths and thought the people getting on were being eaten by this dragon, I was three at the time. I was pretty sure it was a dragon and not a dinosaur because ti shot the fire when it moved.

    I had my step brother make me a wooden sword so I could kill the dragon, it was so big that it dragged on the floor two feet behind me. I peaked around the corner to see the dragon,I was going to jump out and killed it but this time it did not stop because there were no people and i thought it saw me and was coming right at me so I ran as fast as my little legs could carry me.

    I met this man up the street and he wanted to know why I was running and i told him and he seemed to me having a real good time listening to my story about the dragon.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 8:50 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    John, that looks like a lovely town. I am hoping to head that way this year on a photo adventure if i can get a buddy to come along. The cotswalds and parts in between are on my short list.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 9:14 AM   in reply to Ozpeter
    > John, that looks like a lovely town.

    It certainly is. I waited years to come back to the sea.

    Having a comfortable house in a peaceful town is a good recipe for contentment.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 12:58 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    You've just summed up the story for my living where I do now in those two sentences, John (except for the bit about the sea - I prefer rural & river).
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 3:42 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    It's nice seeing all the "roots" photos. I've none of my own to share at this point—they're all packed away in a box somewhere. Finding them and then coaxing the flatbed scanner into action will have to wait for some other day (probably in some other year).

    Ozzie's Venice shots reminded me of a couple of frames I had archived on my computer. I spent about a month with friends backpacking around parts of Europe. Traveling from Munich to Garmisch (as best I recall), 1982:

    http://www.pbase.com/ho72/image/110295110/original.jpg

    My traveling companions:
    http://www.pbase.com/ho72/image/110295094/original.jpg

    Another view:
    http://www.pbase.com/ho72/image/110298649/original.jpg
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 4:40 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Is this the Black Forrest?
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 4:52 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I was going to go to China to photograph this building but

    http://www.designboom.com/weblog/cat/9/view/5395/omas-tvcc-building-in -bejing-china-engulfed-in-fire.html
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 5:22 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Holy cow...that fire's massive!

    Don't know if it's the aging of the film or what, but those shots look cool, Ho. The one of your friends and the castle look like they were painted backgrounds. That's some famous castle in Bavaria or somewhere, isn't it?

    >It's nice seeing all the "roots" photos. I've none of my own to share at this point

    You should've said that's the house you grew up in.
    XD
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 5:24 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    >Thanks Shep - but boarded up and falling down isn't all that typical

    But for *me*, that was part of the charm.
    ;)
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 5:42 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Ho, very nice photos!

    I guess "Where were you?" could mean a long time ago. I'll see what I can dig up...
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 6:57 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Yes i agree they have a cool look to them.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 8:07 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    That is Bavaria and that is Hohenschwangau Castle. from other photos I have seen of the Castle your photos have a special quality to them.
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 8:53 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Wade, <br /> <br /> No, that would <i> <b>not</b> </i> be the Schwarzwald (Black Forest). Traveling from Munich to Garmisch, you'd be traveling south on 95, and you'd be in Oberbayern (Upper Bavaria), specificically in the Bayerische Voralpen, the Bavarian Pre-Alps, my old stomping grounds in the decade of the 1960s. <br /> <br /> To hit the Black Forest traveling from München (Munich) you'd travel west toward Freiburg im Breisgau. <br /> <br /> --- <br /> <br /> Shep, yes that is Bavaria, but not Neuschwanstein THE famous castle you're most likely thinking of thinking of: <br /> <br />c <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=17mewMR3rEwQLCgH0CQLY 1QHx9v1G" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/17mewMR3rEwQLCgH0CQLY1QHx9v1G_th umb.jpg" border="0" /> <br />c Neuschwanstein, 1963
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 8:56 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    Yes, Wade has the correct castle, Neuschwangau, on Ho's photograph..
     
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    Mar 16, 2009 10:48 PM   in reply to Ozpeter
    I got it now i was in the wrong spot but I id some research and as you say it is Bavaria. I will have to take a real look.
     
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