The work around mentioned before is a great idea, but there is one problem, the "art board navigator" docked at the bottom left hand corner of the entire app. Each number is place based on the prior setting (or original numbering of the art board), and no matter how much time you change the arrangement, art board 1 will be display in the "art board navigator" as 1. Unfortunately
If you use 1 artboard and have it big enough, with page tiling set as you want it, can you do something with multiple artboards that you couldn't do before?
For just a couple of obvious things, multiple Artboards can be different sizes and can be freely re-arranged.
Your blanket insults of anyone who favors this long-needed feature (and whom also happens to have enjoyed its benefits in FreeHand) just displays your own ignorance of the issue.
Prior to CS4, Illustrator was the only drawing program among its long-time competitors incapable of page 2. It was a ridiculous limitation.
steve fairbairn wrote:
I have never dared to ask until now (after a few beers :-)), but what is the point of multiple artboards? If you use 1 artboard and have it big enough, with page tiling set as you want it, can you do something with multiple artboards that you couldn't do before? Are multiple artboards really necessary? What do you gain by them? They don't even seem to have independent X/Y axes, so you can't use Cmd-F to paste in place between artboards. Isn't this just a sort of Freehand thingummy that hasn't been properly implemented in Illy?
It is not fully implemented but there is a feature request to be able to name the artboards for instance, tiling was something that most users that came to the forum did not understand and we continually had to explain it to them and many still could not get it to properly work, there was no bleed for tiled pages, you could not print a specific tile as you can with artboards, you could not print a specific range or place a specific tile in say ID there are lots of advantages already implemented, besides multiple size artboards which only happened in tiling is the page size was odd and did not divide accordingly.
There may be some features that would be nice to have but keep in mind artboards are not pages, to think of them as pages is not quite the right approach although there will eventually be a feature I assume to make artboard pages if one desired but that would mean all artboards would be restricted to the same size, unless of course Adobe does something really innovated and allow you to have custom page inserts.
Artboards are a bit like FreeHand but not the same by any means and it has come along way from CS3 and hopefully the same will happen in CS5.
I agree with James on the notion of insulting FreeHand users over this issue it is out of place and it is a very excellent feature and much needed for many users though perhaps not for all users.
You can save a file as a multi page pdf and have each artboard as a separate page. That's got to be a good thing.
And also export separate artboards to various formats (swf) - good for animation
Just make the numbers on the top left corner editable so one can renumber the artboards as s/he pleases. Simple and straightforward solution that should be a no brainer to code. Is it really necessary to wait for a new version of Illustrator to have this fixed? Should be implemented through an update asap.
I don't see why it is so hard to admit that, despite Freehand having been abandoned quite a long time before Adobe decided to terminate it, it had pretty intuitive features that Adobe should simply stick to copy. By the way, give me back paste inside while you're at it.
The biggest problem I find with the artboard numbering is when I export as PDF. I like to build various multi page UI design docs within Illustrator, then export to show clients. Well, you can't control the page numbering if you decide to re-arrange pages, which always happens. Say you decide to make a TOC, or add a page in-between, etc. Out of luck. Artboards keep the number they were created as.
It seems the most obvious UI change should be that the pages re-number themselves according to how you arrange them. This is how other apps work. I actually thought it was a convention. Adobe even does it for inDesign. It's silly to not let these pages self-adjust in this way.
Yay for renumberable artboards - currently I get around it by reshuffling them in acrobat but that only works for rearranging the order of the pdf pages; doesn't help in ai - but then they have to hold back something for the next upgrade
Multi Page from Hot Door has a very good plug-in for creating multiple pages in Illustrator versions before CS4. They cleverly used layers to accomplish this.
Now they have a new version, upgraded to AI CS4, but no mention if they use artboards instead of layers! I was hoping they would change the basis of Multi Page operation, but I guess they haven't yet. If they did, then I would hazard a guess that they had found a way to renumber artboards.
ah maybe because Adobe bought them out?
To be clear, I was replying to this comment:
Not quiet enough, but it's a start.
"I want Illustrator to be exactly like FreeHand and anyone who disagrees with me is a moron." says the ex-Freehand user.
"Why did Macromedia drop all support for FreeHand and disband the development team years ago?" asks everyone else.
And obviously the reason Macromedia "dropped support" for Freehand is because Macromedia was completely bought out by Adobe right.
There's a nice Ruby script that makes renumbering artboards a breeze. You will just need to install Ruby, download the relevant ruby script, and then type in the terminal window "Ruby "renumber artboards.rb" "
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