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May 9, 2001 10:40 AM

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    Jul 12, 2001 1:00 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding
    COLOR SEPARATIONS

    Using ai for packaging, add a box (like layers) that lets me see the separations of each color (like Art Pro)

    As a wysiwyg user and a lithograph/printer: if you put 30% spot color (transparent) on the top of the same spot color 20% ... it will turn 50% of that spot color...? but it's the same color ... I want it just 30% ...

    photoshop DCS's embedded in ai!!! or linked but give me some resolution, I can't place them accurate!
     
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    Jul 13, 2001 4:20 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding
    I am working in illustrator right now and have a file that has thousands of control points. My explanation is difficult without a picture but here goes...I am trying to visually line up a particular group of elements within the design --- but this element must move in sequence with other elements.

    Problem is that all I see are the blue control points. I cannot see the art.

    Could you provide an option to reduce the size of control points or even turn them off in some instances? Right now all I see are globs blue control points.
     
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    Jul 18, 2001 9:39 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding
    How about a simple extrusion tool?
    Canvas, a much less expensive program can do this.
    I don't mean a complete version of Dimensions, but at least extrude/rotate/lighsource.
    I think that would rock!
     
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    Jul 18, 2001 9:50 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding
    Please add new requests to a new topic.
     
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    Jun 3, 2009 8:30 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Paste inside function please (as in Freehand),

    clipping masks can be a hassle (eg. needing to duplicate objects).

     
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    Jun 4, 2009 10:21 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Add the funtionality for making stipple fills and stipple fill gradients -- a feature that had been in Illustrator ver8.junk.png

     
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    Jun 10, 2009 12:39 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Make the mask feature more like "paste inside" from Freehand. Instead of having to bring a mask shape to the front and have it's attributes vaporize when a mask is made, create the ability to cut artwork and then paste it into any shape, leaving that shape unaltered. Or, when artwork is masked, how about simply cropping it to the mask itself? It is very confusing to look at masked artwork in keyline view, because the art extends past the mask.

     
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    Jun 24, 2009 11:35 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    I would like for there to be a way to switch between the two types of text boxes while selected on an already existing text box (not having to re-type everything would be wonderful).  Have an option to switch between paragraph text and artistic text.  That would be the best!

     

    I would really like to be able to select angled guides while zoomed far in (as well as zoomed in all the way).  Once they have been turned on an angle, you are not able to grab the guides without having to zoom out from the artwork.  That makes it really hard to get the guides precisly where they need to be and also makes it difficult to duplicate them quickly.

     

    -Thanks.

     
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    Jun 24, 2009 1:01 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    WTF? C'mon, Mordy, you know better than this. You know what I'm talking about.

     
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    Jul 6, 2009 9:25 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Yes, I have one, an smarter Ink mixer to mix process and spot colors easy as Indesign has...! see this post. Prepress users really need it..!

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/457364?tstart=0

     
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    Jul 13, 2009 8:30 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    1. Please let behave graphic styles like paragraph styles. If an path has a style applied and you change the color or stroke with, the path looses his "connection" to the syles palette instead of showing the style with an plus behind as paragraph styles do.

     

    2. Currently if I select a style from the styles palette a new path is drawn with the attributes with the selected style. But to "Connect" this path with a style from the palette I have to reselect the style in the palette. If I have to draw 50 pathes all with the same style I've to select everytime after drwaing one path the style :-( This doubles the mouseclicking and isn't realy fun. Paragraph styles can do it the right way, why graphicstyles can't behave the same???

     

     

    regards

    Michael

     
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    Jul 16, 2009 7:30 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Hi to all, first of all.

     


    It took me some time to calm down and post a constructive message on the topic of Adobe Illustrator and needed improvements...

     


    I've been using Photoshop and Dreamweaver for a long time now, and I'm very happy with the usability and quality of both products, it's a credit to Adobe, but Adobe Illustrator... I don't know where to start... I use CS4 version (??? newest one and still so unusable...), and can't simply figure out was this product made as a joke or something... It's not the power of the product and what you can do with it (saw many tutorials and the results are always just breath-taking), the problem is those tiny annoying things that you must break your back to do (e.g. gradients and color picking... Oh sweet Jesus H. Christ and the gradients...). In Photoshop those actions are so easily done and intelligently implemented, but as we all know Photoshop has it's limits and for vector graphics you must use some other tool. So I installed Adobe's Illustrator thinking it would meet the same quality standards like other Adobe products, just to be hardly disappointed... After two days of trying to pass those annoying functionality complications I just uninstalled it, said no thanks to commercial use (thank God for trial period) and installed Corel Draw.

     


    I hope that CS5 version will fix those little quirks (i bet that this could be fixed in very short time (I'm also a computer programmer so I know some about those things)) and I'll sure check it out when it comes out

     


    Until then there is no other choice than using alternatives to Illustrator.

     


    Best regards,

     

    Stjepan, and for the end my list of feature request I accumulated in just two days of testing:

     


    1. Gradient color picker

     

    2. Color picker always reverts back to CMYK although I changed it to RGB

     

    3. Simplify swatch adding and editing

     

    4. Gradient color picker

     

    5. Gradient color picker

     
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    Jul 24, 2009 7:45 AM   in reply to Stazh

    There is a gradient color picker available in the gradient pallette Just click on the swatch you want to change and shift click on some color in your artwork (you can even sample colors from photos), or you can alt-click on a swatch of your choice. It's just not available while using the gradient tool itself, but the gradient tool is so new so I'm sure they'll revise it.

     
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    Jul 30, 2009 10:02 AM   in reply to Mario Arizmendi

    To be able to add, delete and convert anchor points by right clicking or double clicking. This is a feature Corel Draw offers with the pen tool. I find it easier and faster to work this way rather than using the keyboard shortcuts or selecting icons to access the additional tools. Thanks!

     
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    Jul 30, 2009 10:13 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Oh, one more Mordy.

     

    Not to compare Corel Draw again but, Corel offers a feature when selecting anchor points that only selects completed shapes and not all the surrounding points. It's hard to explain but it somehow knows to select certain points even though your selection area is larger. For example, in Illustrator, you would have to hold Shift and click on each anchor point to get your exact selection. Thanks Mordy.

     

    I just saw that this post is pretty old but hopefully it's still open for comments. 

     
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    Aug 12, 2009 9:45 AM   in reply to (John_Dallaire)

    Hey John,

     

    I believe this ones been done. You can create a color (process). Add to swatches as a global. And pick as a tint. When you edit swatch all pieces using this color will change. How cool is that. Hope this helps.

     
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    Sep 15, 2009 1:43 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Please add the feature InDesign already has: angles of rotated objects are stored.

     

    Not so in Illustrator:

    Bild 1.png

    See also thread ... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/492174?tstart=0

     

    Thank you!

     
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    Sep 15, 2009 3:19 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Can you please improve the save for web and devices function so that the directory location used in a previous execution of this feature is maintained. I have lost count of the number of times i've had to trawl through directories to get back to the directory i want to save an image in.

     

    Thanks,

     

    eamonn

     
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    Oct 2, 2009 6:46 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    It is so frustrating! I want to start using illustrator fully, but like most freehand users migrating to illustrator is just too painful.  I just can't bring myself to leave freehand and all the brilliant little features it offers.

    please adobe, you know how freehand works & what it's good & bad points are as design tool.

    If adobe introduced the following features to future versions of illustrator life would be fantastic, life would be wonderful... I love what I do, I love being a graphic designer...this could all change soon if adobe don’t do something quick!

     

    • The most important feature of all is the PASTE INSIDE feature! PLEASE adobe introduce this feature to cs5 and you will probably find 99% of freehand users migrate. The way PASTE INSIDE works is far superior to that of clipping masks...being able to PASTE ELEMENTS INSIDE of other shapes which actually retain their appearance is a truly a brilliant feature that must someday be adopted by illustrator.

     

    • Secondly...when an object or objects are grouped, why can’t the visual way it appears when selected change? In freehand this is done simply by changing many points or a text box into 4 simple points, one in each corner...why should we have to read whether something is grouped or not?

     

    • Thirdly...SELECTING objects is a very longwinded process in illustrator...if I have many elements on my page and only want to select one or two of these with my marquee...then why does it select everything that it touches (ie page borders, and other objects away from the one you actually want)...It seems I spend half my time de-selecting the things we don’t want selected!

     

    • Fourthly...SELECTING THROUGH OBJECTS...another fantastic feature freehand offers!...by simply holding down the CONTROL KEY selecting invisible objects or text behind other objects or text is done with the click of your mouse...

     

    and last but not least...some of the other little things that would be brilliant if introduced into illustrator...drawing and changing the appearance of simple things like stars...being able to visually determine how an object is going to look or how many sides it is going to have before you actually draw is very useful...and then being able to alter it’s appearance once drawn is even better...also on a path could be a lot better...

     

    PLEASE ADOBE HELP US OUT!

    even one or two of the above features especially PASTE INSIDE would make for a far superior version of ILLUSTRATOR...AND MANY, MANY MORE FREEHAND USERS MIGRATING...and MANY, MANY more enlightened existing illustrator users...

     

    many thanks,

     

    mark

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Oct 2, 2009 7:51 AM   in reply to cosmic fridge

    I have never used Freehand, but here are some things I can add that may help you:

     

     

     

    • The most important feature of all is the PASTE INSIDE feature! PLEASE adobe introduce this feature to cs5 and you will probably find 99% of freehand users migrate. The way PASTE INSIDE works is far superior to that of clipping masks...being able to PASTE ELEMENTS INSIDE of other shapes which actually retain their appearance is a truly a brilliant feature that must someday be adopted by illustrator.

    So what happens when you have several images that need to be placed inside a bounding box, does FH do that too or can you only paste one item inside another?

     

    • Secondly...when an object or objects are grouped, why can’t the visual way it appears when selected change? In freehand this is done simply by changing many points or a text box into 4 simple points, one in each corner...why should we have to read whether something is grouped or not?

    If I understand correctly, you should be using the Direct Selection Tool (white arrow).

     

    • Thirdly...SELECTING objects is a very longwinded process in illustrator...if I have many elements on my page and only want to select one or two of these with my marquee...then why does it select everything that it touches (ie page borders, and other objects away from the one you actually want)...It seems I spend half my time de-selecting the things we don’t want selected!

    What tool are you using to select objects? You should be using the Selection Tool (solid back arrow). The only way it would select more than one object is if that object is grouped with another object, if you are clicking and dragging the cursor when selecting, or if you are holding down the shift key when selecting more than one object.

     

    • Fourthly...SELECTING THROUGH OBJECTS...another fantastic feature freehand offers!...by simply holding down the CONTROL KEY selecting invisible objects or text behind other objects or text is done with the click of your mouse...

    A great function, working with layers or locking objects or working with Outline View...and yes I think there is a control key you can use to do what you are asking (selecting object behind), but I can't remember what it is at the moment.

     

    and last but not least...some of the other little things that would be brilliant if introduced into illustrator...drawing and changing the appearance of simple things like stars...being able to visually determine how an object is going to look or how many sides it is going to have before you actually draw is very useful...and then being able to alter it’s appearance once drawn is even better...also on a path could be a lot better...

    When you use the Star Tool (or may other tools) you can simply select the tool and single click in the document to alter the settings (points, radius, etc), rather then clicking and dragging in the document to create the shape.

     
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    Oct 2, 2009 12:40 PM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    • The most important feature of all is the PASTE INSIDE feature! PLEASE adobe introduce this feature to cs5 and you will probably find 99% of freehand users migrate. The way PASTE INSIDE works is far superior to that of clipping masks...being able to PASTE ELEMENTS INSIDE of other shapes which actually retain their appearance is a truly a brilliant feature that must someday be adopted by illustrator.

    So what happens when you have several images that need to be placed inside a bounding box, does FH do that too or can you only paste one item inside another?

    In freehand you can draw a shape, any shape...give it a line or not...even give it a gradient fill if you want...then you can select that shape and place as many objects within that shape as you like...and you can do this as many times as you want with different objects at different times...so if you already have two objects within the shape, you can still add more, remove and edit these objects at any time...you don't have to release what's already there if you want to add more objects...the shape that you are pasting all these objects inside of even retains it's original appearence...you don't have to duplicate it in any way...it's just the shape you are pasting inside of (whatever it looks like) and the objects you want within in it...if you've never used it...you don't know what your missing...it's quick, efficient and helps designing layouts where objects bleed out of shapes much easier...

     

     

    • Secondly...when an object or objects are grouped, why can’t the visual way it appears when selected change? In freehand this is done simply by changing many points or a text box into 4 simple points, one in each corner...why should we have to read whether something is grouped or not?

    If I understand correctly, you should be using the Direct Selection Tool (white arrow).

    No, I understand all about the selection tools and what they do within illustrator...what I mean is...in illustrator you can't tell if something is grouped just by looking at it...if I have 5 objects in cs4 and they are grouped together, when you select that group they still appear the same (a mass of lines and points) and unless you read where it says group in the top left hand corner of the document you can't tell the difference between 5 objects that are grouped together and 5 objects that are not grouped but all just selected at the same time...in freehand when you group objects together it visually appears as one group i.e the 5 objects appear to become one, just by simplifying  the way it appears...the individual shape of each object is no longer highlighted...it just becomes highligted as one big group...I must go now! I will reply to your other answer on selection tomorrow...as I need to explain further what I mean...thanks ozzwomen

     

     

     

    • Thirdly...SELECTING objects is a very longwinded process in illustrator...if I have many elements on my page and only want to select one or two of these with my marquee...then why does it select everything that it touches (ie page borders, and other objects away from the one you actually want)...It seems I spend half my time de-selecting the things we don’t want selected!

    What tool are you using to select objects? You should be using the Selection Tool (solid back arrow). The only way it would select more than one object is if that object is grouped with another object, if you are clicking and dragging the cursor when selecting, or if you are holding down the shift key when selecting more than one object.

     

    • Fourthly...SELECTING THROUGH OBJECTS...another fantastic feature freehand offers!...by simply holding down the CONTROL KEY selecting invisible objects or text behind other objects or text is done with the click of your mouse...

    A great function, working with layers or locking objects or working with Outline View...and yes I think there is a control key you can use to do what you are asking (selecting object behind), but I can't remember what it is at the moment.

     

    and last but not least...some of the other little things that would be brilliant if introduced into illustrator...drawing and changing the appearance of simple things like stars...being able to visually determine how an object is going to look or how many sides it is going to have before you actually draw is very useful...and then being able to alter it’s appearance once drawn is even better...also on a path could be a lot better...

    When you use the Star Tool (or may other tools) you can simply select the tool and single click in the document to alter the settings (points, radius, etc), rather then clicking and dragging in the document to create the shape.

    yes I understand that, but you can't alter it's appearance or add sides etc to it once you have clicked ok and it's on the page...it is no longer editable once it is drawn.

     
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    Oct 3, 2009 2:15 AM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    Hi Ozzwoman...

     

    I have done some visuals of the points I am making...

     

    thanks...

     

    mark

     

    this one is paste inside

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    Oct 3, 2009 1:58 AM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    Hello again....

     

     

    selection

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    Oct 3, 2009 2:13 AM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    hello again

     

    group

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    Oct 3, 2009 2:21 AM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    Hi ozzwoman...

     

    and changing appearance of things like stars...

     

    mark

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    Oct 3, 2009 2:09 AM   in reply to Ozzwoman9

    Hi Ozzwoman

     

    and the last one for now....

    ctrl & clicking through forground objects to select ones behind...very quickly

     

     

    that's all I have time for, for now...

     

    thanks,

     

    mark

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    Oct 15, 2009 1:06 AM   in reply to cosmic fridge

    1) The possibility for renumber artboards.  Imagine that you have 3 or 4 artboards. You must be able to add another artboard and that it number be 2, by example.

     

    2) I agree that FreeHand's paste inside is a must.

     

    3) The look and replace feature in FreeHand is very superior (see the atachments for understand the possibilities.)

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    Oct 15, 2009 2:03 AM   in reply to Arzallus

    I totally agree...the find and replace graphics feature that freehand offers has a far superior way of working to that of select similar objects in illustrator...

    when using freehand this is a feature I use a lot to create quick design and colour variations...

     

    PASTE INSIDE is a MUST in cs5...NO DOUBT!

     

    please Mordy if your out there...help!

     

     

    mark

     
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    Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Illustrators find and replace does not have a replace tool for paragraph, or a carriage return.  This is a very powerfull feature.

     
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    Oct 20, 2009 4:35 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

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    Oct 20, 2009 4:38 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Hi Mordy...

     

    another major pain inside illustrator is the GUIDES...or should I say SNAP TO GUIDES feature which is not there...

    I understand that when you have smart guides switched on objects do snap to other object & guides...but this is not always the case and can be  a nightmare when there are multiple objects on your artwork...the object you want to snap to the guide just becomes confused with all the other object around it...and seems to start snapping to everything EXCEPT the guide you want it to...

    this is made much worse when trying to snap text or words to a guide...it just does not happen...it's almost like text that is not outlines is invisible to guides in illustrator...

    In freehand text or words have a text or bounding box when not converted to paths.  this allows words that are still text to snap to a guide very easily...

     

    if you're out there mordy...please help

     

    please make snapping to guides more reliable, please Introduce paste inside, please make groups more visually obvious (as explained in previous posts), please make shapes & polygons editable after they are drawn, and selecting certain objects without selecting everything the marquee touches would be nice...

     

     

     

    many thanks mordy,

     

    mark

     
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    Oct 29, 2009 12:26 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    What about getting a "Package for Service Provider", as in FreeHand or, for crying out loud, in InDesign?

    I'm fed with having to do with heavy PDFs...

     
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    Nov 2, 2009 3:25 PM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    I've been with Illustrator for about 10 years now, and I don't have any major issues with the program, with one big exception. I upgraded to CS4 Design Premium early in 2009 (to go along with my new Mac Pro with dual Quad-Core Intel Xeons) and have been generally satisfied with Illustrator - I think partly because having used it for so long, I understand its quirks and I generally know how to make it do what I want.

     

    That said, I most likely will NOT be upgrading any Adobe products in the Design Suite unless and until they become multi-threaded 64-bit apps. This isn't out of spite, or intended as a protest statement. It's simply not worth it for me to upgrade software that doesn't take advantage of the latest in multi-processor computing. Those of us with multi-core processors and 64-bit operating systems (and I think it's safe to say this is probably most of us Illustrator users) deserve an application that takes advantage of the inherent power of our systems. We'd like to use more processors, and more RAM because we have them available. I don't know what the situation is for Windows users, but for Mac, we seem stuck with 32-bit, single processor apps.

     

    For a long time it was the hardware that lagged behind the software. These days, the case is reversed, and the software needs to pick up the slack. From a work-flow and time-management standpoint, it's no longer worth it to upgrade applications that don't acknowledge and utilize advancements in hardware.

     

    So please, step up, Adobe.

     
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    Nov 11, 2009 2:07 AM   in reply to cosmic fridge

    I'm also a Freehand user who has been forced to convert to Illustrator. I can only agree to the requests above.

    Paste inside is a MUST.

    I recently installed windows 7, 64bit and just for fun installed Freehand, and it still works!

    I had almost forgotten how good it is. I think I increased my productivity by some 400% so now I have switched back in wait for a better Illustrator.

     
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    Nov 19, 2009 10:41 AM   in reply to Jan Sandstrom

    Hi Jan...

    I am also a member on the freefreehand.org forum under my name "mark fraser"

     

    I must say I watched your you tube video "freehand v's illustrator" and think it's great!

     

    I totally agree with the stuff you have featured...as these are just the same features that make me understand why I still love freehand...(as you can see in my previous post).

     

    I would love to see you make more vid's like this one!

     

    they get our point across beautifully! 

     

    mark

     
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    Dec 6, 2009 7:42 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    2 features that come to my mind right now:

     

    - Cone gradients ('angle' gradients in Photoshop)

    - Inner shadow

     
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    Dec 7, 2009 2:57 PM   in reply to Alainv02

    Will people PLEASE stop adding to this post. This is a waste of time. The forum itself is called Illustrator Feature Requests. Grab-bag discussions within the forum help nobody, especially Adobe (if they are listening), see what features are requested and how they are being discussed.


    Rather than add yet another feature to this long a pointless post, create a new post requesting the feature where the discussion can focus on that one feature and where Adobe engineers can see it without diving into this discussion (which they will not do).


    Mordy, you know better. Why did you start this and why haven't you killed it, or had your friends at Adobe kill it?

     
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    Jan 8, 2010 10:36 AM   in reply to Mordy Golding

    Scott — I am a different opinion. What is needed is such a simple wish-list (Top needed By number of votes cast).

    I miss the simple indication of the deficiencies or defects in my work tools Illustartor.
    But instead of adding only his own and those same response should be added an option to vote YES for the post - I want to. NO - I am opposed.

    A simple number of votes will indicate what is most important to work longer in the new version.

    Discussion should be in addition to items from the wish list.

     

    Few versions of the top lists Illustrator:

    1. Amendments to existing tools

    2. Additional extensions for existing tools

    3. Ideas for new tools

     
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    Jan 8, 2010 3:30 PM   in reply to MarioMari

    art.Mariusz wrote:

     

    Scott — I am a different opinion. What is needed is such a simple wish-list (Top needed By number of votes cast).

    I miss the simple indication of the deficiencies or defects in my work tools Illustartor.
    But instead of adding only his own and those same response should be added an option to vote YES for the post - I want to. NO - I am opposed.

    A simple number of votes will indicate what is most important to work longer in the new version.

    Discussion should be in addition to items from the wish list.

    But this is not a “simple wish list.” It is a complicated, meandering, redundant, and convoluted wish list. People posting new requests are unlikely to read through from the top to see if their feature has been requested, something that would be much easier to do if feature requests were kept to separate posts. Also, since there is no polling or voting feature on this forum, there are no votes to count.

     

    Few versions of the top lists Illustrator:

    1. Amendments to existing tools

    2. Additional extensions for existing tools

    3. Ideas for new tools

    Go ahead and request those features. In. A. New. Post. But try to be a little more specific than, “Ideas for new tools.”

     
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    Jan 12, 2010 1:41 AM   in reply to Scott Falkner

    "People posting new requests are unlikely (...)"

    — Yeah, "probably". In my opinion, the current formula kills initiative users this forum, simply take the work and organize such freeheand.org

    And it is blind to Aobe way - I do not know whether or not it is better for our users. To discourage people like you, the inertia of their entries.

    It is known that ideas will always be very much and know that discussing about them may be mad because wish-list allows you to take the discussion only the most popular.

    That is why I miss the idea that http://pleasefixtheiphone.com/

     

    — "Also, since there is no polling or voting feature on this forum, there are no votes to count.(...)"
    And again. That I was missing the...

     

     

    " Go ahead and request those features. (...)

    — You probably do not understand my opinion. As discussed earlier by me, it makes no sense to discuss ing, a new idea until it has been supported by any particular number of votes of users. Opening such topics as the new posts by me quickly zatoczy near the impractical absurdity of the current forum.

     

    Mordy Golding probably started this thread to drown here any ideas on Illustartora not to litter him in the main thread. After all, nobody will read from the beginning all posts ... ;( ( sorry Mordy a lack of faith)

     
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