My goal is to publish training videos on a Ning site that I
am designing as an extranet for freelancers working with me. I
understand that I need to convert the SWF files to mov, .mpg, .avi,
.3gp or .wmv for me to be able to upload to that site . I have been
trying all the different trial versions of SWF conversion software
programs including Sothink. When one publishes from CP there are a
lot of SWF files created and I could not figure out how to convert
them all into a single AVI video. I read about unchecking the
borders in the skin section under projects and that would create a
single SWF and I thought that might work for me, and for whatever
reason it does not work I have just as many file as before. I
thought I could work around that problem by using the main (largest
file size) SWF in the folder and not the ones that say "fullmotion"
because the entire video with sound plays without a problem on my
computer, but when I drag the same file into one of the SWF to AVI
converters I have been experimenting with, the file plays a limited
amount of frames and then stops. I am stumped there must be a way
to do this without jumping through hoops.
I don't know if that was clear? My goal is to convert my CP
project's SWF file into an AVI or another acceptable format for the
web and then upload it! --Thanks
Olivereem, Jun 3, 2013 6:09 AM
Wow, it seems very odd to me that whatever this "Ning" site
is/does, it doesn't accept .SWF as a valid format? Wazzup widdat?
What is "Ning" anyway?
What you are seeing is how Captivate handles full motion
clips that have been recorded. Normally they are all external and
loaded when their point is reached on the timeline. One method of
coaxing those beasties into slides was developed by fellow Adobe
Community Expert and fellow Adobe Certified Instructor John Daigle.
John discovered that if you take your Captivate and publish to an
intermediate folder (make sure you use the Flash 7 target if you do
this) that you can then insert blank slides immediately either
before or after each of your full motion slides. Then configure the
slide timing for those blank slides to match the slide with the
full motion clip. Then insert the full motion clips from the
intermediate folder on each respective slide. Then delete the
original slides with the full motion clips. After doing all this,
publish your file and you should have a single .SWF to distribute.
I will say that I've seen this suggestion offered and for
some, they can't seem to make it work. I'm not sure if they weren't
doing things exactly as suggested or why. But it's worth trying.
I have watched CP tours on YouTube and "YouTube accepts a
wide range of video file formats such as .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG
transferred from most digital cameras, camcorders, and cell
phones." (no mention of SWF) so how did you guys do it? As for
http://www.ning.com/, it is a cool
social networking template with the same upload restrictions as
YouTube and it seems like all the other web hosting sites as well.
I would prefer not to host my video on a public site anyway. I'm
not sure what "publish to an intermediate folder" means though.
Thanks I will keep you posted.
I'm having a problem with sothink. I've followed the ipod
tutorial on the adobe site but it doesn't work.
before each of the actual screencasts i've created i have
inserted on of the standard adobe captivate introductions (it just
gives the title of the movie). when i try to convert my swf with
sothink, it only recognises this intro and doesn't convert any
more. can anyone advise how i get sothink to recognise the whole of
the project rather than the short intro?
I also am having problems with the Sothink swf to video
software. The software keeps asking for the stereo mix setting. I
do not have this on my computer and cannot find a work around. The
software will not convert my files. They are video/audio projects
that I need to play on an iPod. I have contacted SoThink - but they
have not helped - say the bug will be fixed in the future. I am
using Captivate swf files on a Windows XP - Optiplex 745. Does
anyone have a fix? I purchased the full version.
We have had major problems with the conversion of Captivate's
SWF files in an effort to create an AVI from which to edit within
Premiere Pro. We tried three differnet conversion software packages
including SoThink. When we load the Flash file, these converters
only see the first 150-180 (6 seconds) or so frames -- in our case
the videos are thousand of frames in duration. Captivates playback
is fine but there is something about their Flash creation or their
instructions about how to export it that is lacking. You will note
that there are several associated SWF files created. If you use the
largest of the created SWF files, it plays back as expected within
a web browser with full duration, but when you load that same file
in a converter, only the first several seconds are recognized.
What is unbelievable to us is why there is only a Flash
output option. After all, Adobe is a video editing player ---don't
these development groups consult among each other. Captivate is a
powerful application. But not having multiple output formats is a
MAJOR, and unforgivable design omission.
By the way, don't try Flashants's SWF2 Video Plug in for
Premiere that is supposed to allow you to import SWF files. It will
crash Premiere. We tried several times.
We have been tearing our hair out with this problem and will
welcome any advice. Let's all appeal to Captivate to get output
Please don't repeatedly post the same information in
different threads. Moments ago I replied to a new thread you
started. That thread appears to be a copy/paste of this one. You
may view the thread by
I would like to second edwardcurley's remarks. Also, comments
which imply that SWF is the universal language of communication and
that a desire to convert to other formats is perverse, are not
helpful. Nor are suggestions to leave a message in Adobe's
Suggestion Box for help... when, exactly, would that be? And the
idea that Adobe's developers and marketers flat out ignore these
User forums is simply appalling-- you could hardly ask for a more
concise definition of "bad vendor" than that!
Using Captivate as the container within which to publish a
MOVIE just because some part of the movie's content includes a
short screen capture demo is absurd. But that appears to be the
Captivate paradigm, given that there are no viable export options
to video formats and Adobe's own video editing
software--PremierPro--refuses to accept SWF (and FLV too, i.e.
Flash VIDEO, there's another great definition of what it means to
be a bad vendor).
The "John Daigle workaround" is no workaround at all, it
still relies on generating SWF output. We--Googling around the 'net
there appear to hundreds of people searching for an answer to
this--are looking for NON-SWF output. Get it? Not SWF. No, no, no
SWF. Something else. Not S---W---F. Is that clear enough? (and not
FLV either, which also doesn't play well with others.)
The 3rd party transcoders out there mostly look pretty
squirrley, and their demo versions at least don't appear to work.
Like edwardcurley I've tried a bunch. I'm not alergic to paying for
one but by this time I won't pay anybody until they prove to me
that they can handle the load. By the way, in case anyone is
actually reading this, there is one product claiming to be an SWF
transcoder calling itself SUPER (C) (a copyright symbol follows the
"super") that looks radioactive, acts suspicious as heck, and there
is much discussion on the 'net about whether or not it is nasty
malware. If anyone has more insight about this product please post
I did come across an interresting suggestion to simply run
the captive show in real time while using a screen capture program
to generate AVI or other output. Sounded like a possible winner,
but results were not very successful:
• Screen captures using DivX or XviD or other codecs to
generate AVI files played beautifully in Windows Media Player and
Winamp video, but Premier Pro would not import them, claiming an
"unsupported audio rate" whether or not screen capture was set to
record audio. QuickTime Pro wouldn't play the files either,
claiming an unsupported codec, and referred me to an Apple web page
where I could find the DivX and XviD codecs!
• WMV screen capture files actually did import
successfully into Premier Pro, but with much degraded image quality
over the way show looked in WMP or Winamp. Image quality in fact
was too low to actually use.
• I tried capturing the Captivate show off of two
separate presentation platforms: Internet Explorer, and also
directly in Adobe Flash Player 9 (which of course is the
application that runs inside IE when you play the show in IE, but
what the heck). The direct-Flash Player 9 effort was interesting--
when I set the screen capture software (ZD Soft) to capture just
the FP9 window it reports that the window is empty(?), although the
show plays. Oh, Adobe, how clever thou art.
And so on and so forth... Many, many, many efforts, sweat and
late nights trying to convert my Captivate show into something
importable into Adobe's own Premier movie software. Nada. I must be
working off some truly bad karma from a previous life.
Frankly, with zero format interoperability I feel robbed by
Adobe for Captivate. Makes me wonder when we'll see the
introduction of the Adobe Standalone Transcoder, only $699,
download your copy today.
Color me a captive, but hardly captivated.
By the way, this forum lists "1131" topics but I count fewer
than 100. Where are the other topics.
Just kidding you. All of us here are volunteers and Captivate
users helping one another out. You have already read that Adobe
doesn't monitor these boards too closely, so I'm wondering what
purpose your post has, other than just to vent. You seem to be
aware of the official channel, the wish form. I'm assuming you also
saw the link to it in my reply to edwardcurley in the other post.
Sorry, but none of us here control the way Adobe works. It
would be like shouting at the moon and commanding it to be full
every evening instead of just a few each cycle. Or attempting to
command Microsoft to change the way they do things.
As for the forum post count, after you log in, you need to
edit your profile to see more posts and history. This is why you
are only seeing 100 or so.
Again, if you honestly want Adobe to see what your issues
are, you (and others) need to utilize the Wish Form. And you may do
this link right here.
> Nor are suggestions to leave a
> message in Adobe's Suggestion Box for help... when,
exactly, would that
I know it seems like bug reports and suggestions are ignored,
because we all
want our OWN pet issues dealt with, but Adobe does read every
the bug/suggestion form. Unless it is a showstopper, the
is to weigh up the relative value of each item, and the
report count of an
issue, and create a list of priorities for action through the
release. Usually the release cycle is 18 months to two years.
> the idea that Adobe's developers and marketers flat out
ignore these User
> forums is simply appalling-- you could hardly ask for a
> of "bad vendor" than that!
This is untrue. Adobe does pay attention to the traffic on
Depending on the product, you may even see Adobe engineers
posting* to the user forums, but as each product team has its
and preferences, then you don't see that across the board.
Each product has
Community Experts who are volunteers with numerous
responsibilities, one of
which is to watch for issues and bring them to Adobe's
> Using Captivate as the container within which to publish
a MOVIE just
> some part of the movie's content includes a short screen
capture demo is
That, of course, depends upon your exact needs.
> But that appears to be the Captivate paradigm, given
that there are no
> viable export options to video formats and Adobe's own
> software--PremierPro--refuses to accept SWF (and FLV
too, i.e. Flash
> there's another great definition of what it means to be
a bad vendor).
Captivate is intended to create interactive output. Sure I
can see why
sometimes you might want a flat, non-interactive
presentation, so I agree
that export to AVI or similar is an omission, but I think it
is a reasonable
one when you consider that the typical user of Captivate is
nature and may be particularly purturbed to discover that the
of Captivate's features (all of the interactive ones) will
not export to
AVI. I guess Adobe's choice up to now has been that AVI
export is a nice to
have for a minority of users.
By the way, if you already have a swf, you can export this
from Flash to
QuickTime. Then you can import that to Premier.
> ? I tried capturing the Captivate show off of two
> platforms: Internet Explorer, and also directly in Adobe
Flash Player 9
> of course is the application that runs inside IE when
you play the show in
> but what the heck). The direct-Flash Player 9 effort was
> when I
> set the screen capture software (ZD Soft) to capture
just the FP9 window
> reports that the window is empty(?), although the show
plays. Oh, Adobe,
> clever thou art.
Did you, by any chance, try using Captivate's own full motion
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FWIW I tried using Super (C) to convert a Captivate SWF to
WMV, FLV, MOV etc. Super (C) is a great prgram (free too!). Keep
getting an error message that a codec is missing either FLV1 or
VP6. Perhaps this will solve our problem. But how (where) do we
insert this codec for Captivate to recognize?
The suggestion by a moderator herein encouraging me to use
the Wish Form certainly has merit and I have done that. However, I
took some crit, and I noticed others have too, for what is
characterized as "venting". Is it not true that sharing product
frustrations often leads to solutions from among the subscribers? I
doubt that readers of Wish Forms at Adobe, while they maybe taking
notes about future product enhancements, are going to be quick to
suggest alternative solutions such as those that come from this
Forum. In fact, no one would expect to hear anything from Adobe.
When a Forum user brings a problem to the table, it is usually
because the issue requires an immediate solution -- not one that
can not wait for a future release. And while I have a complete
suite of Adobe products, my first allegiance is to my clients and
to implementing the right software.
I applaude Ruth3rf0rd and others like him that take the time
to clearly articulate their issues even if it carries an element of
venting. And I find it interesting that of all the Forums we belong
to, the Captivate moderators seem to have a lower tolerance for
this kind of communication. But that's OK because I probably will
not have reason to visit this forum again and run the risk of being
criticized. I have found a better solution on this Forum to solve
my problem: the new Camtasia 5.0. Not only does it have all of the
output options that we need, its Smart Focus feature and its highly
intuitive design, eats Captivate's lunch. For those who were
helpful on this Forum, I wanted to pass this word about Camtasia
along to the other "ventors" at large.
> The suggestion by a moderator herein encouraging me to
use the Wish Form
> certainly has merit and I have done that.
I just wanted to clarify - there are no moderators on this or
Adobe forum. There are Community Experts who volunteer their
time to try to
offer help and guidance, but they are not formally
'moderators'. Of course,
that doesn't stop some making efforts to guide the
attitudes of those posting here.
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I'm sorry you feel that by my asking you to abide by posted
forum guidelines, you feel I was criticizing you. Our only
motivation for asking folks to abide by guidelines and only ask a
question in a single forum category is because of the following
Now I know you only posted the same issue twice, but consider
the following scenario. Assume that we took no measure to ensure
anyone posted a question once. We often see folks arrive and
repeatedly copy and paste the same exact question in each and every
category. Maybe the question is answered, but in only a single
category. Some time later, someone arrives with the exact same
issue. They decide to use the search mechanism offered by the
forums. They become excited to see that the same issue has been
posted more than a couple of times. But they follow perhaps four
links that end up with no answers and just give up.
So please know that nobody was picking on you specifically
and certainly nothing was done to ridicule what you or anyone else
I do not have Flassh. I am using Captivate the file is saves
as a SWF. But I can not find a way (perhaps other than purchase
Flash) to convert / export, etc the file from Flash to AVI or any
other useable format
I have re-read the thread and am not convinced (other than to
try it) the Sothink software is really any good. I have posted my
concern to Adobe. Captivate, while it is a very powerful software,
for the price should allow the user to save in the format which
they desire. Not ONLY flash. Why should I have to purchase anohter
software package (you recommend) when I think I've spent enough on
something that shold allow me the option to save in any format I
want to use? Please Adobe give us the option.
I posted before, received no answer BTW, "FWIW I tried using
Super (C) to convert a Captivate SWF to WMV, FLV, MOV etc. Super
(C) is a great program (free too!). Keep getting an error message
that a codec is missing either FLV1 or VP6. Perhaps this will solve
our problem. But how (where) do we insert this codec for Captivate
Anyone have an answer for this??
> I posted before, received no answer BTW, "FWIW I tried
using Super (C) to
> convert a Captivate SWF to WMV, FLV, MOV etc. Super (C)
is a great program
> (free too!). Keep getting an error message that a codec
is missing either
> or VP6. Perhaps this will solve our problem. But how
(where) do we insert
> codec for Captivate to recognize?
> Anyone have an answer for this??
Captivate is not a video tool, so it does not recognise
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I believe it was edwardcurley who posted that sothink only
records the first few frames. It appears as though it does, but if
you follow the link I've given step by step, you'll be able to
convert your entire captivate swf including audio.
I echo all of the frustrations of the other posters who are
trying to figure out a way to get our Captivate presentations onto
I see some defensiveness on the part of the moderators, and I
recognize that they are free volunteers.
However, the frustration level is extreme. I think the
problem may come from many of the "classic" Captivate users coming
from the world of e-learning, where exporting videos to YouTube,
etc. is simply not a major issue.
The problem is that many companies, mine included, are all
moving to videos as a major method of communication with our
We have standardized on Captivate in our company and
completely regret the decision, because it's simply unusable for
the purposes of exporting rich video presentations to various parts
of the web (whether its your own site, or YouTube).
The reality is that the right decision is to simply use
Camtasia Studio instead, which is really what most people who do
video presentations use. Captivate has its place in the e-learning
world, but is simply hidebound by its lack of output support.
We have produced rich web videos that have sound, multiple
animations, slides, etc. The various solutions (inserting blank
slides, using the swf converter program) are not usable.
At any rate, if anyone can successfuly convert one of our
presentations to mpeg or AVI (with virtually the same quality as
the original), I'll give them $500. Just contact me at
I receive my replies via E-Mail and was astonished to see
that you were initially offering $500 to anyone that wanted to try.
I'm pleased to see you amended the post to say
This will probably surprise you, but I think your point is
valid when it comes to things like YouTube. Camtasia is probably
what I would recommend to someone if they said that they were
planning on creating things that they will place on YouTube. So I
totally concur with you on that point.
Unless you were one of the unlucky few in the same boat as me
with being unable to run Captivate in trial mode, I don't see your
point with regretting the decision. Adobe and Techsmith both offer
a 30 day free trial. That's 30 days to put both products through
the paces and see if they fit your need. So, again assuming you
made it into trial mode, I find it odd you would be totally at ease
with the output until after you ponied up for the real deal, then
be shocked that it doesn't port easily to format that works well on
I totally don't understand the claim about being unable to
put the presentations on your own site. YouTube makes sense, as
they seem to restrict uploading to specific types. But you have
free reign with your own site. Unless your web admins are blowing
smoke and saying it HAS to be in this format or other.
> I find it odd you would be totally
> at ease with the output until after you ponied up for
the real deal, then
> shocked that it doesn't port easily to format that works
well on YouTube.
I find it odd that anyone would buy a tool that is designed
interactive content, so that they can output to
non-interactive video. There
are scores (probably hundreds) of tools for creating video.
Thank you both for your thoughtful comments, and for agreeing
that Camtasia is the better solution.
For now, I have some ideas I'm going to be experimenting
with, such as using Camtasia to record the Captivate presentation,
and then using a tool like Total Recorder to record the audio. I'll
let ya'll know how it goes.
I also have a couple of nice people from the forum who have
taken me up on the offer, so I'll contact them offline.
I was looking for a way to simply recording what was going on
within my screen...i came accross Captivate and said "wow didnt
know adobe made a screencapping software".
After downloading it and playing with it i realized they
dont, they make a semi finished or broken program that records your
desktop in a useless format.
WTH am i suppossed to do with 10 SWF files for a 20 second
recording of what i did on my desktop...suppose i dont want to have
users on my website have to goto a full webpage just for a short
Forget the program not supporting AVI or WMV or any other
popular format....i cant even get it to output 1 SWF or FLV file.
Instead i get a bunch of files...
For 600+ bux this program should do other favors for me aside
from recording...how the devs failed to overlook offering user
friendly ways of outputting files makes my brain hurt.
Seriously forget the other guys offer for 500 bux to get this
to work...the world will pay someone millions to create a simple to
use screencaptureing program...all the ones ive tried seem to
either suck or not do what they claim (from the free ones to the
600+ dollar ones like captivate)
> WTH am i suppossed to do with 10 SWF files for a 20
second recording of
> what i
> did on my desktop...suppose i dont want to have users on
my website have
> goto a full webpage just for a short demo?
I guess what you didn't do was look and see what Captivate
designed to do.
If all you want is a non-interactive movie of something
happening on screen,
then Captivate is not the tool for you.
Steve is right (albeit I wouldn't have phrased it in as nasty
a manner -- but that is the way with the moderators of this forum
-- they're get real grumpy if you dare to criticize Capitivate --
it's especially irritating to have that self-righteous tone when
you just blew a lot of money on licenses like I did. But whatever).
Here's the bottomline: Captivate is completely useless if you
want to output to the web, YouTube, Vimeo or anything else that's
on the web these days. Furthermore, this functionality is
apparently planned, but don't expect it for at least another 12
The solution is simple; Move to Camtasia. It's an outstanding
product, and it's what a lot of the professional demo people use
(for example, demogirl.com).
Right now, the only real solution I've figured out to move my
big, beautiful Captivate recording to the web (at least for my
complex demo) is to use Camtasia to record the screen, while using
Total Recorder (www.highcriteria.com) to record the audio. You can
try this yourself with demo versions of the programs.
Captivate is apparently useful for producing courseware or
for grumpy "I never watch that darned YouTube" luddites. I will
give it this: It's a beautifully engineered program, and incredibly
nice to use, and I love how it works (which is why I bought it).
But for many cases, it's just absolutely useless for outputting to
any file format other than SWF.
I have a presentation that I just created in Captivate ready
to upload to a Blackboard site. The 4 files generated from the
Publish function were 1) a Firefox Document (2KB), 2) a Shockwave
Flash Object (14251 KB), 3) a Shockwave Flash Object -- the skin
(11 KB), and 4) a JScript Script File (1 KB).
I'm not sure how to upload these files so that they will open
as a flash file in Blackboard. I thought I would get a single swf
file that I could link on a site. Help?
Not sure why you appended your first post to this long and
gnarly thread, as your question doesn't seem to relate to what is
in the thread. But that's okay. We found it!
If all you want is a .SWF to upload, just point at the main
.SWF object If you want to banish the skin .SWF, click Project >
Skin... > Borders tab and DE-select the "Show borders" check
box. Then re-publish your project.
The point is (still) Captivate creates multiple *.swf files
which are linked (somehow) to create one main presentation. Sure
you can get rid of the 'splash' screen, sure you may be able to
republish. But, the question remains "why so many frames?" Can the
amount of frames be reduced to just 1? We have to make a comparison
here Camtasia is superior in this way AND for the variety of ways
to publish the final product. Captivate allows SWF that's it.
Pretty sad when you have to buy a third party product (SoThink) and
hope the third party product will work.
Thanks Rick! I was a little apprehensive about posting here
("gnarly," yes, a little!). I just tried to get toward the end of
the line so someone might notice.
Anyway, the presentation got posted beautifully. I got it up
on Blackboard, but the size was wrong. Then I remembered that we
have an Adobe Connect server, and went that route. Perfect.
I am absolutely thrilled with the software, and I will be
recommending it to my department at the college. Those of us
teaching distance courses can use this. I learned it as I put
together a presentation, which is another plus for this program.
The help feature is well done, as are the tutorials. And this forum
is pretty good, too! Thank you very much for a speedy, thoughtful
I have also tried many methods to produce a training video
for work. First I made my company buy Captivate and then Premiere.
Our video contains both Power Point slides and motion screen
captures. The screen captures were taken using Captivate. I
published the files and then imported the MANY swf files, one by
one, into Flash. From there I exported to AVI and MOV. The AVIs
crashed in Premiere. The MOVs suffered serious degradation of
quality even though I specified the highest possible quality and
zero compression throughout every step.
Next, we bought the third party plug-in for Premiere,
actually recommended on Adobe's website. This program does indeed
crash Premiere. I don't understand why though, because the SWF
files are a fraction of the size of the MOV files I was working
Now I have decided to succumb to Captivate's "container"
requirements. Except that now my slides are not advancing as they
should. Transitions have been set. Advancement options are set. But
at the end of each slide, playback just stops. This happens in both
preview mode and in the published file.
I am very frustrated with this project. My company has spent
a lot of money on my and my suggestions. At this point, I don't
know what to do. Please help!?!
...at the end of each slide, playback just stops.
Normally this is caused by the presence of one of the
* Click Box
* Text Entry Box
So the question here is to ask if you have looked at each
slide and found one of the objects I mentioned. If so, you may wish
to try editing the object and removing the pause. Then use the
Apply to All function and hope it changes all of them to no longer
pause. (This last part may require some trial and error and may not
work 100% of the time)
Thanks Rick! That was the answer I was looking for.
Now I just have to figure out how to convert the project to a
usable web format once I am finished editing. Since I have already
cost my company thousands of dollars in software purchases, I don't
want to buy anything else towards the completion of this project.
One of the threads above suggested exporting the project to
flash. I have tried that method several times in my efforts, but
one or the other of the programs crash. Have you had any success