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Dual Monitor Support NEEDED

Mar 13, 2007 11:39 PM

  Latest reply: Neil_Keller, Aug 1, 2008 1:17 PM
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    Jul 1, 2007 10:49 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Count me in as weanting dual monitor support also. I've posted the following feature request to Adobe, since there is some doubt as to whether they read user to user forums.

    Dual monitor support wanted

    The central pane of LR should be a separate window so it can be dragged onto a second monitor where it can take up the whole screen. This is how I use Photoshop CS2. I am accustomed to being able to see my photos on the whole screen without having to mess around with hiding all the other panels.

    It is inexplicable that you didn't do this from the beginning, as it's not that difficult technically.
     
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    Jul 3, 2007 1:09 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Just adding my support to the need for Dual monitor support. This is a deal breaker for me. I'm used to it under Nikon Capture 4.4, means i can configure the tools I use all the time for easy access. This means I can do my images WAY faster. Since it isn't here for 1.1, I will let 1.1 rest for now..... Dual Monitor support needs to be there for 2.0, Or I will dump it on my machines!
     
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    Jul 3, 2007 5:48 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I agree. I am looking for another solution now because of the lack of dual monitor support. I want to use all 3 of my monitors even. One for thumbnails, one for the photo I am working on, and another for adjustments. This is a basic feature that should be in any photo editing software. Even photoshop has it for hecks sake! Maybe the Lightroom guys could ask them how to do it?
     
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    Jul 3, 2007 6:33 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Oh before I get flamed for a 'dealbreaker' post I have to edit thousands of photos at a time and workflow is very important. You cannot even reposition the sections in the develop window to put what you use on top and prevent scrolling.

    As posted above there are many other issues with the program that add to the broken deal. I switched drive letters for my RAID array and LR couldnt find the photos anymore. No biggie I will use the option in it to find them right? Wrong the find photo feature cannot even see my RAID array at all for some reason (the import options sees it fine). I tried to delete the whole library and just start over (never do this unless you enjoy pain) it just locked up for a while then crashed to my desktop.

    I did finally get everything deleted to start over and I am using the 'stretchy window' work around until I find something better to use or they fix it. The fact this progam has so much potential to be the perfect pro editing tool is what makes these problems so frustrating.
     
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    Jul 4, 2007 1:33 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    > Oh before I get flamed for a 'dealbreaker' post I have to edit thousands of photos at a time and workflow is very important.

    Didn't say a word ;)

    BTW have you tried the Solo Mode? It really helps with panels.

    Unfortunately DMS didn't make it for 1.1, the priorities were bug squishing and feature compatibility with ACR. It will make it at some point.

    Richard Earney

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    Jul 6, 2007 7:47 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I am currently using a Mac system and running Apple Aperture for my photography workflow application. It does support multiple monitors. I also have Adobe Lightroom for my Mac. I have to say that the ONLY reason for me not to switch over to Lightroom is the lack of support for Multiple Monitors.

    I will say that I do like the organization better in Aperture, however I like Lightroom overall better than Aperture in the area of module organization (IE. Develop, Slideshow, Print). And there are some features such as chromatic aberration and vignetting correcting tools that are not available in Aperture that Lightroom has.

    So I guess in summation, I would have to say that Adobe, if you are listening, I will switch to Lightroom if/when multi-monitor support is there. Until then, I guess I will just keep using Aperture.

    SIDE NOTE: For those not familiar with Aperture, it is only available for the Mac Systems, sorry.
     
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    Jul 7, 2007 12:35 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I would agree that multiple monitor support would be a really useful addition to the product. I'm also a Mac user and regularly use Aperture, Photoshop CS3, LightZone and Lightroom user and I run a setup with 2x 30in screens and an additional Cintiq for tablet work.

    One mode where Lightroom would be significantly better to use would be an option under library mode to render full screen images on the 2nd monitor as you select individual thumbnails in grid mode.

    Being able to relocate the tools would be useful too although I do see that this is a significant design philosophy change for the UI.

    The other productivity enhancer would be the ability to render views in develop mode at different zoom levels on each screen, with the ability to straighten, crop, spot or locally select develop settings on any screen and simultaneously update the others. I can do this in PS and Aperture and it makes the Cintiq tablet a superb addition for more delicate work.

    I don't think it's necessary to tear the whole UI apart to support these types of features in a future Lightroom version. The fact is that multiple screens are now very common configurations for folks doing image processing. It's also a very common configuration for laptop users these days with secondary larger screens in the office.

    Heck, as a software developer I've used multi-screen configurations for too many years than I care to remember. The benefits of this configuration definitely isn't lost on the developers themselves, perhaps it's just the product marketing/product management folks who need punt up the rear to understand that this isn't a nice to have for many of us but is now an established must-have.

    So, come on folks, how about it?
     
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    Jul 7, 2007 3:48 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    What does solo mode do exactly? The help docs seem to be void of any information on it and when I select it the only thing that happens is the panels I have open on the left collapse. Am I missing something cool that it does?
     
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    Jul 7, 2007 4:05 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Yes, after they colapse if you open one and the another the second one remains open but the first closes. Hence 'Solo Mode'.

    You didn't try long enough.

    Don
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    Jul 7, 2007 8:17 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Ah.. I guess it might be usefull to some people but I really need access to all the functions I adjust without having to open the panel that contains them first for the simple reason I often go back and forth between many adjustments quickly. I do now have it in a useable state by dragging the window to expand it onto my other monitor. I am able to access all the basic adjustments I need without closing any. I have edited nearly 4000 photos with it in the last week and am learning to work around the issues. My biggest reason for needing multi monitor support is because my middle monitor is a rotatable widescreen LCD. When this is in portrait mode (the reason I bought it) any panels on the screen take up way too much space to be useful. Still I do like lightroom and have been using it since beta I just wish these issues would get resolved so I can go 'all the way' with it.

    Lets wait and see what the next patches bring.
     
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    Jul 17, 2007 4:35 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Well I'll add my vote for dual (or more) monitor support. I just finished a wedding shoot and it would have been very nice to have my control panels open on one screen and my image on the other. Even the slideshow feature doesn't support dual monitors - yet.

    But....I really like the work flow and the 1.1 improvements (the red eye removal is killer!) That said, how come is it that that we can't just use this forum to suggest improvements instead of trying to run the company for Adobe? If you don't like the program go buy another one...better yet, develop the 'perfect' program for us.

    Stephen
     
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    Jul 18, 2007 9:48 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    The main thing I'd want from multiple monitor support is to use the compare/survey options on both monitors, to view more images at once without shrinking them as much.

    Being able to dock some of the panels on a second monitor would also be useful; my folder list and collection list are each so tall that I have to scroll up and down to see it all (even mostly collapsed), and that means that other useful things that share the same pane (keyword tags, metadata browser, Find, and the quick collection) are almost always offscreen. I wouldn't mind moving the folder browser entirely out of that stack and onto the 2nd monitor.
     
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    Jul 20, 2007 5:51 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    There are 126 messages here and I don't have time to read such an involved thread, but want to STRONGLY add my desire for multimonitor support. The interface is extraordinarily frustrating if one has paid for the extra screen realestate and can't support it. Hope this isn't a trend that Photoshop and the other CS apps will be forced into step with.
     
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    Jul 20, 2007 6:49 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    It isn't a very involved thread, but you don't need to keep requesting it as it is a well known feature request.

    It will be looked at but I imagine pretty unlikely to occur until the next major version.

    Richard Earney

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    Jul 21, 2007 9:10 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I have posted several requests for multiple monitors as well. Version 1.1 did not come with it

    I have also asked about being able to view images in the .icc printer profile, just as I do in Photoshop. If the ability is there, if it really is there, please email me, pronto!

    Wasted my money!

    OS 10.4.10, G5 (NO IBM compatibles in this environment)

    Cheers
     
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    Jul 21, 2007 9:12 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I have posted several requests for multiple monitors as well. Version 1.1 did not come with it

    I have also asked about being able to view images in the .icc printer profile, just as I do in Photoshop. If the ability is there, if it really is there, please email me, pronto!

    Canon software allows dual monitors. Why not LR 1.1?

    Wasted my money!

    OS 10.4.10, G5 (NO IBM compatibles in this environment)

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    Jul 21, 2007 1:47 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    >Canon software allows dual monitors. Why not LR 1.1?

    As a workflow tool do you seriously think that Canon's DDP on two or more monitors is more productive than Lr on one monitor? I would be astonished if that were your view.

    It's not a stretch to predict that Lr will support multiple monitors in a future release, but in the meantime spend a few moments to discover how efficient Lr can be used on a single monitor.
     
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    Jul 23, 2007 5:14 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Throw my hat in the ring. I'd like to see it too. What I'm doing now as a work around is to pull lightroom onto the left monitor and drag the window to the right monitor so the image sits left and the panel right.
     
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    Jul 23, 2007 5:30 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    You can drag it like that? On my setup, where the right monitor is the principal one (with the menubar), I can't drag Lightroom at all.
     
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    Jul 23, 2007 6:11 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I don't believe Bill is dragging it passed the Left Panel. He must just does not have the left panel open. So Image on Left, Panel on Right.

    You can't re-arrange the order of LR eliments. Just reveal them or not.

    Hope I am not mis reading here. :)

    Don
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    Jul 23, 2007 3:42 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    John, I imagine you have your Workspace View set to one of the Full Screen modes, in which case you can't drag the window. Set your screen mode to Standard screen mode (Window/Screen Mode/Standard Screen Mode) then you should be able to drag to your second monitor.

    The problem is that LR starts up on the primary monitor, so you will have to do this every time you restart it!

    Hope that helps!

    Tony
     
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    Jul 24, 2007 5:00 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    John,

    I drag the lightroom window to the left monitor. I then grab the bottom right corner to resize the window so that it goes across to the right monitor. The left panel can be open or not-doesn't matter. When sizing the window, I just adjust it so that the develop panel on the right falls completely on the right monitor and the image falls totally on the left monitor. It kind of breaks up the filmstrip, but it's not a big deal. My right monitor is my main one. FWIW, my left monitor is a NEC 1990 and my right is an older apple 20" cinema display, so they aren't tiny monitors. I bet the apple 30 display would be great for lightroom.
    Hope that helps.
     
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    Aug 16, 2007 9:04 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    And part of building in dual monitor support is to have LR use the proper color management profile for each monitor. On my secondary display (OS=Vista) LR displays the colors as far too over saturated!

    Images display correctly on both monitors in PS CS3 but not in LR.
     
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    Aug 19, 2007 3:35 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I'm coming to this post late in the day (indeed I started my own threat inadvertently on the same subject). I am facing some problems with TIFF files in Aperture, so I have looked afresh at Lightroom (I used it briefly in Beta). It has some nice touches but if anyone is interested in how Dual Monitors can be used to VERY GOOD EFFECT, then take a look at Apple's Aperture. I think the first poster called this a deal-breaker. For what it is worth (and not much as I am just one person! ), the only thing that stopped me putting my credit card on the table (notwithstanding the huge issues of migrating from one app to another) to solve my TIFF problems was the Dual Monitor support. I guess that makes it a deal breaker for one person anyway :-)

    Good luck, I hope it gets fixed soon...
     
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    Aug 24, 2007 2:47 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    @Richard Earney

    I understand that they may want to keep it as strictly a first step in the workflow process but they could make it an option in Preferences where you could allow or not allow CMYK images. That way for those who don't want a "more processed file" in their library they would still have a way to keep it that way. They COULD make everyone happy!
     
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    Aug 24, 2007 1:55 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I don't know if dual monitor support is likely to show up in a minor upgrade, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it in a not-so-distant future major upgrade. So, I'd say that those who are holding off just need to keep their eyes open for upcoming releases. This has definitely been often requested, so I imagine that it is in fact in Adobe's hopper. But the next minor releases will likely concentrate on known bugs and urgent issues as well as new camera support and minor feature enhancements. IMHO.

    Tony
     
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    Aug 25, 2007 7:38 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I just saw Lr displayed bright and bold on a friends Dell 24 inch wide screen monitor. Dual monitors are so yesterday :).
     
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    Aug 25, 2007 7:44 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Unless of course you have two of those wide screen monitors.

    Jeff
     
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    Aug 27, 2007 2:47 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Aw, come on guys. Dual monitors have all sorts of practical uses -- think multitasking -- as well as providing a "Utility Space" for parking things from PS or LR separate from the "Image Space".

    Single wide-screen monitors are so day-before-yesterday :)!

    Tony
     
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    Aug 28, 2007 1:20 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    >Single wide-screen monitors are so day-before-yesterday :-)!

    And also awful for using programmes like a web browser.
    I like to use my progs full screen, to reduce clutter. So I like having dual monitors. If I had a widescreen, I would also have a smaller second less wide monitor for the progs which don't neeed to be in widescreen.
     
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    Sep 3, 2007 12:33 PM   in reply to (Patrick_McGee)
    Patrick

    They could, but more likely they won't. It is aimed at Photographers with an RGB workflow.

    Conceivably you might have the RGB of the CMYK hanging round, that would be the thing to use.

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    Sep 16, 2007 1:38 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I use the slideshow for client presentation, it would be advantageous if the slideshows could be ported to separate monitor allowing me to rate the images on the main monitor as they are view instead of interfering with the viewing process.

    A yes vote for dual support
     
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    Sep 19, 2007 6:27 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Yet another vote for dual monitor support...
     
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    Oct 15, 2007 2:15 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Dual screen are needed. Like show images for client. maybe in develop as well.
     
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    Oct 15, 2007 2:41 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Whilst adding my vote, I would also like to offer my workaround. this is acchieved simply by stretching the right hand edge so the right pane is on the second monitor.

    When previewing images to clients via a slideshow, I just drag the whole window to the righthand monitor and select the left hand monitor in the slideshow module. (My left hand monitor has a splitter which feeds to a third screen placed in front of the customer).

    http://www.beautyphoto.co.uk/adobe/dualscreen.jpg
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    The area marked in red displays on the main screen. You can, of course, close off the left hand panel so the image pane occupies the entire screen.
     
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    Oct 15, 2007 2:42 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    I'm not sure that moving the tool palettes on a second monitor ( à la Photoshop ) is a good idea or really essential. And it will require a major redesign of the interface.
    But I would be extremely happy to be able to display the library module and the develop module on separate monitors.
    This would be more than enough.

    Gilles.
     
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    Oct 18, 2007 8:00 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    The problem with displaying two modules on different monitors is that LR doesn't respect the color profiles of each monitor. On my vista home premium system LR uses the color profile of the first monitor regardless of which monitor LR is actually posistioned on.
     
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    Oct 18, 2007 9:48 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    > LR doesn't respect the color profiles of each monitor

    That's not much of an issue if the second monitor only displays buttons and sliders. (See post# 154)
     
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    Oct 18, 2007 10:28 AM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Chris, please note my qualification, "...**two modules** on different monitors", therefore displaying images on each monitor.

    Moreover, given the current lack of dual monitor support (and subsequant lack of support for differing color profiles) I can't work with LR on my second monitor.
     
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    Oct 30, 2007 5:41 PM   in reply to (Rick_Gordon)
    Is there a way to show the Slideshow on one monitor and continue editing on the other? I see how to change the "Playback Screen," but the screen not in use still goes black during the slideshow...
     
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