You two better be careful or we Americans will start speaking in secret code too! We could even go so far as to change the very name of football to something new that we'll fabricate. We could call it "soccer", for example.
AFAIK you didn't fabricate it. The word 'soccer' was originally an English public-school abbreviation of 'association', from 'association football', in the same way they called (and still call) the sport of rugby football "rugger".
Thanks. I stand corrected. I actually thought it came from street ball, when kids would use tape to wrap up socks and make a ball. We Americans are sometimes sorely misinformed on this sport, even those of us who know and love it. Look at my example -- I began this thread predicting AC Milan would win the Champions League! They didn't have a chance against the portable power of Anfield.
> > they'll no doubt have their biggest "gate" ever!
Llansantffraid (aka TNS) have been looking for a bigger stadium, not least because there's does not meet UEFA's minimum spec.
The 2nd leg of the tie will now be played at Wrecsam (that's Wrexham in English as there's no "x" in Welsh) after Stadiwm y Mileniwm (The Millennium Stadium) was not available and UEFA ruled that the match must me played in Wales, ruling out any stadium in England, e.g. Goodison Park, Liverpool.
More details on TNS Llansantffraid's site at:
fan card arrived this morning - tickets go on sale very soon for the first leg at Anfield go on sale very soon.
Although I admire my son's enthusiasm - and I actually
take an interest when Liverpool are playing an important match - I can't pretend to be anything close to what you might call a football fanatic.
Fifteen years ago my interest in the game was - on a scale of 1 to 10 - about minus five!
I was a press photographer for the Wrexham Evening Leader in those days. Mainly features, so I didn't have to cover the local matches.
Then a change of editor brought a change of policy: Every staffer would take his turn to cover the matches!
I kicked, complained, whinged and whined about it; until eventually I was given an ultimatum.
So off I went to a damp and dismal Leighton Orient, where I stood on the touchline for a goal-less first half. Then again through most of the second half where I got one or two shots in the bag, but nothing you could call "action" because the Wrexham forwards hardly got anywhere near the opposition's goal.
Ten minutes before the end - wet, pissed off, and far from home - I packed my (t)rusty Nikon back into my bag and headed for the car park, determined not to have my weekend spoiled even more by sitting in a traffic jam for hours.
Yes, you've guessed it: In the dying minutes Wrexham Scored!
But it was worse than that. Much worse. For before this winning goal, the TV cameras picked up this sodden photographer forlornly abandoning his post, and the commentator remarked on how boring the match must be for the visiting team's local press photographer to be leaving early!
I narrowly escaped the "sack". But looking on the bright side - they never sent me to cover another match again!
Soccer ? How can anyone watch such a sport that ends up in a 0 - 0 tie a lot of the time ? Please tell me what I can do to try to enjoy such a boring game ? If I were in charge I'd first make it that you can use your hands. That would make it much better. Then I'd add that you can carry the ball & run with it. And I'd add that you could throw it to another player. Of course I'd add that you could also kick the ball up over goalposts. Finally, I'd make it that to stop the other team you had to tackle the player with the ball stomping them into the ground. If you did all those things you would have a good game. Oh wait .. we already have it. It's called football ... real football & not the ho-hum style played in Europe. *S* If someone offered me free tickets to the biggest soccer game in the world with seats in the best location OR a couple of free cheeseburgers and an order of french fries ... I'd take the food.
Craig Flory ... obviously someone who hates soccer
Here we are again. The 05/06 European Champions League has begun.
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<br />I was there to see a Stevie G hat-trick beat the Champions of Wales. It was full house, and a fun game. Llansantfraid were excellent and di the Principality proud.
<br />Match report:
<a target="new" href="http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/fixturesresults/round=2198 /match=81166/Report=RP.html">Liverpool back in business.</a>
<br />Full Results:
<a target="new" href="http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/match2006 .html">UEFA European Cup Matches 2005/2006.</a>
<br />Iechyd da! John
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I'm delighted that you accept the Premier League of Wales is "top class football"!
> > that Llansantffraid has totally abandoned their identity to the sponsors
I'm not sure of the history, but it would seem Mike Harris bought the Llansantffraid Club a few years and renamed it after it his business
Total Network Solutions. To complicate the matter further, they've also merged with Oswestry Town who are only a few miles away but are in England.
To be honest, we are talking grass-roots local football where survival can be more important than success. And Mike Harris is fully supporting his local team.
Rankings are calculated by FIFA, and FIFA, as well as being completely inept and detached from the realities of the game in almost every way, is also a hugely political organisation. Politicaly, it suits FIFA (or, more specifically Sepp Blatter) to have a ranking system that favours teams outside of Europe and South America. That way, it is easier to award more World Cup slots to pointless African or North American or Asian teams at the expense of European or South American countries (who, by virtue of being by the far the strongest confederations, will always get the lion's share anyway), and the beneficiaries return the compliment by supporting Blatter et al come election time.
I suppose it must also help the US' case that they are virtually guaranteed to make an appearance at every single World Cup and Confederations Cup, thanks to the absolute weakness of the rest of CONCACAF.
Thanks for the link, John. They did quite well last week on Match Day 4, and now sit at the top of their group in CL. I assume they play one match for the semi-finals at the FIFA World Club Championship, not two like the Champions League. Is that right?
I'm getting excited about the World Cup draw coming up next month!
> > I assume they play one match for the semi-finals at the FIFA World Club Championship,
Yes. Although the winers will no doubt be rightly proud of their trophy, the tournament is more about PR than footballing prestige. I'm sure none of the team relish a week away in Japan with a big time differnce for most teams, plus the northern hemisphere teams will not want the tournament to disturb their national and continental programmes. I don't expect to see clubs put out their strongest teams - despite FIFA's rulings - and mysterious injuries and illnesses will appear a day or two before the planes take off.
> > They did quite well last week on Match Day 4,
Yes, I was there. Anderlecht weren't up to much and really Liverpool should have won by a much bigger margin. Anderlecht have now set a record for losing 11 consecutive Champs League matches.
The other incident of note was the red-carding of Anderlecht's Nenad Jestrovic by the Danish ref Kim Milton Nielsen (famous for dismissing Manchester U's Rooney and England's Beckham in the past). At the time I we were not clear of the reason for the dismissal as the clash with the Reds' Mohamed Sissoko was no more than the usual handbags.
But the multi-lingual ref understood what the Serbian Jestrovic said and dismissed him for racist abuse.
Jestrovic appealed but UEFA have upheld the ref's decision and Jestrovic has been banned from the next three matches.
I got to see Liverpool's 2-0 win over Aston Villa, and I saw exactly how maddening it can be to see flashes of brilliance amidst long stretches of listless play. I think they need a serious butt-chewing from Benitez.
Loved the photo of LFC on the theme of "Show Racism the red card"!
U.S played with four first-team players and ended 1-1 v Scotland.
http://www.ussoccer.com/home/default3.sps?iType=8239 European teams should no longer take the U.S. MNT lightly. Our World Cup win over Portugal was no fluke! And we came VERY close to extra time v Germany in the quarter-finals in 2002. Our soccer revolution of the '70's and '80's is coming to maturity. We still struggle to be creative in the area, but it's improving and we have lots of depth on our bench.
> > I think they need a serious butt-chewing from Benitez.
The proven talent is there. It just needs to come together - which it does when they raise the tempo.
Present and past LFC players were representing their countries this weekend, and I had a field day watching not only England v Argentina live on the BBC but France v Germany live and highlights of all the world cup play-offs and friendlies on Eurosport.
Michael Owen scored twice for England, one from an inch perfect cross from is long time friend Stevie G.
Luis Garcia scored 3 and 'Nando Morientes 1 in Spain's 5-1 thrashing of Croatia. Xabi Alonso was captain.
Vladimir Smicer scored the Czech Republic's only goal in the play-off v Norway in Oslo - John-Arne Riise was playing for Norway.
Djibril Cisse scored (as did ex-Red Nicola Anekla and Thierry Henry) in France's 3-2 win over Costa Rica. They then drew nil-nil with Germany in the big
Stade de France .
USA footy is on the up - but then there are lots (or should be) of players to chose from, even if many of the top players are in the Prem League or elsewhere in Europe.
Holy ****!!!! We're leading one nil at half time in our world cup quailfier against Uraguay, the South Americans always knock us out or they have for the past 30 years. We need to beat them by two to nil, fingers crossed.
Oh yeah, we're rated 57th and they're somewhere in the low teens.