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    Jun 24, 2005 4:51 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Imagine it couldn't be better for Llansantffraid either. If their match is at home, they'll no doubt have their biggest "gate" ever!

    Cymru am Byth!
    Chris.
     
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    Jun 24, 2005 2:26 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    AFAIK you didn't fabricate it. The word 'soccer' was originally an English public-school abbreviation of 'association', from 'association football', in the same way they called (and still call) the sport of rugby football "rugger".
     
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    Jun 24, 2005 3:21 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    I would hardly call that a bad prediction. It was wrong, granted, but it was as close to being right as I've ever seen :D
     
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    Jun 24, 2005 4:55 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    >We Americans are sometimes sorely misinformed on this sport,

    Thank gawd.
     
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    Jun 27, 2005 1:48 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > > we Americans will start speaking in secret code too!

    No need, just speak your native language.

    > > they'll no doubt have their biggest "gate" ever!

    Llansantffraid (aka TNS) have been looking for a bigger stadium, not least because there's does not meet UEFA's minimum spec.

    The 2nd leg of the tie will now be played at Wrecsam (that's Wrexham in English as there's no "x" in Welsh) after Stadiwm y Mileniwm (The Millennium Stadium) was not available and UEFA ruled that the match must me played in Wales, ruling out any stadium in England, e.g. Goodison Park, Liverpool.

    More details on TNS Llansantffraid's site at:
    http://www.saints-alive.co.uk/index.php

    My fan card arrived this morning - tickets go on sale very soon for the first leg at Anfield go on sale very soon.

    Iechyd da! John
    22:48 27/06/2005 BS
     
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    Jun 27, 2005 4:09 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > The 2nd leg of the tie will now be played at Wrecsam

    My 15 year old son has persuaded his step brother - my (long since) grown-up son - to take him to Anfield.

    When I asked "why not Wrexham" (which is less than half an hour away) he replied: "What? Sombody might see me!"

    Cymru am Byth
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    Jun 27, 2005 4:37 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Although I admire my son's enthusiasm - and I actually
    i do
    take an interest when Liverpool are playing an important match - I can't pretend to be anything close to what you might call a football fanatic.

    Fifteen years ago my interest in the game was - on a scale of 1 to 10 - about minus five!

    I was a press photographer for the Wrexham Evening Leader in those days. Mainly features, so I didn't have to cover the local matches.

    Then a change of editor brought a change of policy: Every staffer would take his turn to cover the matches!

    I kicked, complained, whinged and whined about it; until eventually I was given an ultimatum.

    So off I went to a damp and dismal Leighton Orient, where I stood on the touchline for a goal-less first half. Then again through most of the second half where I got one or two shots in the bag, but nothing you could call "action" because the Wrexham forwards hardly got anywhere near the opposition's goal.

    Ten minutes before the end - wet, pissed off, and far from home - I packed my (t)rusty Nikon back into my bag and headed for the car park, determined not to have my weekend spoiled even more by sitting in a traffic jam for hours.

    Yes, you've guessed it: In the dying minutes Wrexham Scored!

    But it was worse than that. Much worse. For before this winning goal, the TV cameras picked up this sodden photographer forlornly abandoning his post, and the commentator remarked on how boring the match must be for the visiting team's local press photographer to be leaving early!

    I narrowly escaped the "sack". But looking on the bright side - they never sent me to cover another match again!

    Chris.
     
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    Jul 3, 2005 10:58 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Soccer ? How can anyone watch such a sport that ends up in a 0 - 0 tie a lot of the time ? Please tell me what I can do to try to enjoy such a boring game ? If I were in charge I'd first make it that you can use your hands. That would make it much better. Then I'd add that you can carry the ball & run with it. And I'd add that you could throw it to another player. Of course I'd add that you could also kick the ball up over goalposts. Finally, I'd make it that to stop the other team you had to tackle the player with the ball stomping them into the ground. If you did all those things you would have a good game. Oh wait .. we already have it. It's called football ... real football & not the ho-hum style played in Europe. *S* If someone offered me free tickets to the biggest soccer game in the world with seats in the best location OR a couple of free cheeseburgers and an order of french fries ... I'd take the food.

    Craig Flory ... obviously someone who hates soccer
     
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    Jul 3, 2005 1:29 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > > Leighton Orient,

    In 1962, two teams went up from the then 2nd Division to the 1st Division. Liverpool and Leyton Orient. Their next 43 years could hardly have been more different.

    > > damp and dismal
    > wet, pissed off, and far from home

    Probably why they've chosen that part of London to locate the 2012 Olympic Stadium.

    Iechyd da! John
    22:29 03/07/2005 BST
     
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    Jul 3, 2005 1:30 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Do you think we'll get the Olympics, John? I doubt it somehow, not sure why.
     
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    Jul 3, 2005 2:07 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    I'm pretty sure we won't but, patriotic though I am, I wouldn't want it.

    We can do better things with the money.
     
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    Jul 4, 2005 3:00 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > > We can do better things with the money.

    Yes. I just don't believe they're going make a profit of £100M except at the expense of the local people and HMG.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4618833.stm

    The 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester were very good though - well orgainsed and they had Manchester City FC lined up to take over the stadium when the games finished.

    Iechyd da! John
    00:00 05/07/2005 BST
     
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    Jul 13, 2005 3:53 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Here we are again. The 05/06 European Champions League has begun. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?pic=1Latd3GTE8t3mfDh6svVWX3Hk 9Xz1" /></a> <img src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1Latd3GTE8t3mfDh6svVWX3Hk9Xz1_th umb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I was there to see a Stevie G hat-trick beat the Champions of Wales. It was full house, and a fun game. Llansantfraid were excellent and di the Principality proud. <br /> <br />Match report: <a target="new" href="http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/fixturesresults/round=2198 /match=81166/Report=RP.html">Liverpool back in business.</a> <br />Full Results: <a target="new" href="http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/match2006 .html">UEFA European Cup Matches 2005/2006.</a> <br /> <br />Iechyd da! John <br />00:53 14/07/2005 BST
     
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    Jul 14, 2005 12:32 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Looking at that programme cover it appears that Llansantfraid has totally abandoned their identity to the sponsors. Is this unique in top class football?
     
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    Jul 14, 2005 2:54 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    I'm delighted that you accept the Premier League of Wales is "top class football"!

    > > that Llansantffraid has totally abandoned their identity to the sponsors

    I'm not sure of the history, but it would seem Mike Harris bought the Llansantffraid Club a few years and renamed it after it his business Total Network Solutions. To complicate the matter further, they've also merged with Oswestry Town who are only a few miles away but are in England.

    To be honest, we are talking grass-roots local football where survival can be more important than success. And Mike Harris is fully supporting his local team.

    http://www.saints-alive.co.uk/tns_logo.htm
    http://kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/Llansantffraid.png

    I'm not sure if they're only professional club to be so named, but it's not unusual in Motor Racing - Benetton springs to mind.

    List of 941 major European Clubs:
    http://kassiesa.com/uefaclubs/

    Iechyd da! John
    11:53 14/07/2005 BST
     
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    Jul 19, 2005 3:14 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Liverpool strolled to a 3-0 victory over TNS in Wrexham, making it 6-0 on aggregate. Stevie G scored five of the six goals.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4693949.stm

    Next week, it's FBK Kaunas v LFC in Lithuania with the second leg at Anfield on Tues 2nd August.

    Iechyd da! John
    00:14 20/07/2005 BST
     
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    Jul 20, 2005 1:32 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Rankings are calculated by FIFA, and FIFA, as well as being completely inept and detached from the realities of the game in almost every way, is also a hugely political organisation. Politicaly, it suits FIFA (or, more specifically Sepp Blatter) to have a ranking system that favours teams outside of Europe and South America. That way, it is easier to award more World Cup slots to pointless African or North American or Asian teams at the expense of European or South American countries (who, by virtue of being by the far the strongest confederations, will always get the lion's share anyway), and the beneficiaries return the compliment by supporting Blatter et al come election time.

    I suppose it must also help the US' case that they are virtually guaranteed to make an appearance at every single World Cup and Confederations Cup, thanks to the absolute weakness of the rest of CONCACAF.

    The actual rankings system can be found here
     
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    Jul 26, 2005 1:29 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    You summed it up well, Iain.

    The European Champions league (and the UEFA Team Rankings ) are also highly politicised to ensure the G14 dominate Europe - witness the squealing from Manchester United when they failed to proceed earlier this year: Uefa dismisses Man Utd proposal

    Meanwhile, Liverpool won earlier tonight in Lithuania - Holders Liverpool rally to win 3-1 at Kaunas - I have my ticket for the 2nd leg at Anfield next Tursday.

    The draw for the 3rd Qualifying Round takes place on Friday 29th July at noon CET.

    Iechyd da! John
    22:29 26/07/2005 BST
     
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    Aug 26, 2005 2:42 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    The Mighty Reds win another European Trophy, lifting the European Super Cup by beating CSKA Moscow 3-1 in Monaco.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4180288.stm

    Micky Mouse it maybe, but it's sitting in the Anfield Trophy Room.

    Iechyd da! John
    23:43 26/08/2005 BST
     
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    Sep 13, 2005 12:51 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Liverpool began their Champions League defence proper with a very promising 2-1 victory in Seville, while Real Madrid were well stuffed by Lyonnais, managed by ex-Liverpool Manager Gérard Houllier.

    * Sinama-Pongolle's flying start
    * Lyon dismantle Madrid

    Geting my tickets for LFC v Chelsea next week.

    Iechyd da! John
    21:51 13/09/2005 BST
     
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    Oct 5, 2005 3:11 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    0-0 v Chelsea in the Champs league was disappointing - LFC should have won.

    But it all went to pieces in the Prem League Have just come out of official mourning.

    Iechyd da! John
    00:11 06/10/2005 BST
     
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    Nov 7, 2005 11:23 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Liverpool are currently ranked as the top club in the world by the International Federation of Football History & Statistics!

    http://www.iffhs.de/main/ranking/clubweltrangliste/?sprache=englisch

    It's looking good for the FIFA World Club Championship in December in Japan.

    Iechyd da! John
    19:21 07/11/2005 GMT
     
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    Nov 8, 2005 1:01 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > > I assume they play one match for the semi-finals at the FIFA World Club Championship,

    Yes. Although the winers will no doubt be rightly proud of their trophy, the tournament is more about PR than footballing prestige. I'm sure none of the team relish a week away in Japan with a big time differnce for most teams, plus the northern hemisphere teams will not want the tournament to disturb their national and continental programmes. I don't expect to see clubs put out their strongest teams - despite FIFA's rulings - and mysterious injuries and illnesses will appear a day or two before the planes take off.

    > > They did quite well last week on Match Day 4,

    Yes, I was there. Anderlecht weren't up to much and really Liverpool should have won by a much bigger margin. Anderlecht have now set a record for losing 11 consecutive Champs League matches.

    The other incident of note was the red-carding of Anderlecht's Nenad Jestrovic by the Danish ref Kim Milton Nielsen (famous for dismissing Manchester U's Rooney and England's Beckham in the past). At the time I we were not clear of the reason for the dismissal as the clash with the Reds' Mohamed Sissoko was no more than the usual handbags.

    But the multi-lingual ref understood what the Serbian Jestrovic said and dismissed him for racist abuse.

    Jestrovic appealed but UEFA have upheld the ref's decision and Jestrovic has been banned from the next three matches.

    As the slogan says: Show Racism the red card.

    Also, I got my tickets this morning for LFC v Real Betis on Wed 23rd Nov, Match Day 5 as I believe it's now known.

    Iechyd da! John
    20:59 08/11/2005 GMT
     
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    Nov 14, 2005 1:01 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    > > I think they need a serious butt-chewing from Benitez.

    The proven talent is there. It just needs to come together - which it does when they raise the tempo.

    Present and past LFC players were representing their countries this weekend, and I had a field day watching not only England v Argentina live on the BBC but France v Germany live and highlights of all the world cup play-offs and friendlies on Eurosport.

    Michael Owen scored twice for England, one from an inch perfect cross from is long time friend Stevie G.
    Luis Garcia scored 3 and 'Nando Morientes 1 in Spain's 5-1 thrashing of Croatia. Xabi Alonso was captain.
    Vladimir Smicer scored the Czech Republic's only goal in the play-off v Norway in Oslo - John-Arne Riise was playing for Norway.
    Djibril Cisse scored (as did ex-Red Nicola Anekla and Thierry Henry) in France's 3-2 win over Costa Rica. They then drew nil-nil with Germany in the big Stade de France .

    USA footy is on the up - but then there are lots (or should be) of players to chose from, even if many of the top players are in the Prem League or elsewhere in Europe.

    Iechyd da! John
    21:01 14/11/2005 GMT
     
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    Nov 16, 2005 1:55 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Holy ****!!!! We're leading one nil at half time in our world cup quailfier against Uraguay, the South Americans always knock us out or they have for the past 30 years. We need to beat them by two to nil, fingers crossed.

    Oh yeah, we're rated 57th and they're somewhere in the low teens.
     
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    Nov 16, 2005 3:54 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    YES!!!!! Beat them in a penalty shootout!

    First time in 32 years, we're in!
     
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    Nov 16, 2005 7:18 AM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Congratulations to Australia!

    Gits.
     
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    Nov 16, 2005 3:31 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    The Wizards of Aus!

    Uruguay 1-0 Australia (Montevideo)
    Australia 1-0 Uruguay (Sydney)
    After extra time, Australia won 4-2 on pnealties.

    Harry Kewell (Liverpool FC) and John Aloisi (Osasuna, Spain) celebrate victory over Uruguay in the Oceania/South American play-off:

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    Australian players celebrate after their second leg World Cup qualifier against Uruguay at Sydney's Olympic Stadium:
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    All 32 teams have now qualified: http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/t/team/qualified.html

    The draw for the finals will take place 9 December 2005 at the Leipzig Trade Fair, at 8:15 pm CET.

    Sadly Wales did not qualify. Again

    Iechyd da! John
    23:30 16/11/2005 GMT
     
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    Nov 16, 2005 3:50 PM   in reply to (Roger_Benedict)
    Australia is still going nuts John, and it's the day after.
     
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