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    Sep 8, 2006 8:19 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I have heard that Santa was originally (pre-Coke) blue. But I think it's true that Coca-Cola© made Santa red.
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 8:36 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    http://www.toonopedia.com/santa.htm

    Pretty interesting on the Christmas myths.

    The modern appearance of Santa began with Thomas Nast, America's premiere cartoonist of his generation. From the 1860s to the '80s, he drew a special cartoon every year for the Christmas edition of Harper's Weekly, the first American magazine to achieve national circulation. Nast's first depiction of Santa appeared in the edition dated January 3, 1863 apparently, it had not yet become media practice to regard Christmas as old news from December 26 on.

    He did it at the personal request of President Abraham Lincoln, to show Santa visiting U.S. troops in the war zone. Aside from fully visualizing Clement Moore's version (tho the face is said to have been based on Nast's own), Nast established Santa's North Pole headquarters, along with the legions of elves at work making toys, in his 1885 cartoon.

    Contemporary with Nast was St. Nicholas magazine, where (among many other icons of children's literature) Palmer Cox's Brownies rose to prominence. St. Nicholas (which was named after Santa, but there the connection ends) was published by Scribner's from 1873 to 1939.

    All this time, Santa generally favored brown fur, but could be depicted in any colors. In 1885, publisher Louis Prang of Boston, who popularized printed Christmas cards, depicted him in a red suit for what may have been the first time.
    That version slowly began to take over, and the now-standard image (red suit with white fur trim) emerged in the early 20th century. That image solidified to rock-like hardness when, starting in 1931, The Coca-Cola Company launched its annual Santa-themed advertising campaign, attempting to soften the mid-winter slump in soft drink sales. Haddon Sundblom, a commercial cartoonist in their employ, created Coke's version of Santa, which eventually came to dominate completely.

    It was also this campaign that established red (Santa's suit) and green (the Coke bottle he's drinking from) as the Christmas colors.
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 1:02 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    And, BTW, Thomas Nast was such a virulently critical political satirist, that he gave us a word: nasty.

    Or so I heard.
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 1:21 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    A Nasty Santa: <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1nL7JZawrilJpu0lqmTfC HFWEN50" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1nL7JZawrilJpu0lqmTfCHFWEN50_thu mb.jpg" border="0" />
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 2:08 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    George Hurrell. One of the great old Hollywood portrait photographers. <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=16mosDYE7G4fUWMHbygcY tMVxb0J" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/16mosDYE7G4fUWMHbygcYtMVxb0J_thu mb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Marlene Dietrich
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 9:35 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    yum... in the bad way, not the nice way. ;)
     
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    Sep 8, 2006 10:40 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    There is more sex in that portrait than 100 pictures of Paris Hilton in her undies.
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 11:04 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Another fascinating combo of beauty and brains, and...
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 7:40 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    &gt;Another fascinating combo of beauty and brains, and... <br /> <br />I think that's why Howard Hughes was so fascinated with Jane Russell---especially, I think, the "and..." part. 8) <br /> <br />Another George Hurrell. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1092MI9gVi0IKgxABLlFC rv94UF2X" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1092MI9gVi0IKgxABLlFCrv94UF2X_th umb.gif" border="0" />
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 7:52 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Re: JJ Post #86

    >There is more sex in that portrait than 100 pictures of Paris Hilton in her undies.

    Not to mention, class, style and elegance.

    Or as graffiti would say..."Now, that's hot!"
    B)
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 8:00 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I do own one set of art books. I love Dore's illustrations of dante's devine comedy!



    Midway upon the journey of our life
    I found myself within a forest dark,
    For the straightforward pathway had been lost.
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 8:24 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Nice and spooky dave. Perhaps even moreso without the guy or at least the light area around him.

    I can't remember the line, just the idea---it's been twenty-five years since I read it. But one of my favorite lines from Divine Comedy was at one point when Virgil got in the boat. He describes it as the boat didn't move. ie., Didn't register Virgil's weight, thereby indicating that he was a spirit...

    ...or something.
     
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    Sep 9, 2006 9:46 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I remember and thought it was charon entering the 1st level of hell or phlegyas on the river after dis but can't seem to find it. I know what you mean though. Maybe it was Gyron going into lower hell?

    http://www.everypoet.com/Archive/poetry/dante/dante_contents.htm
     
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    Sep 10, 2006 9:00 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    >I remember and thought it was charon entering the 1st level of hell or phlegyas on the river after dis but can't seem to find it.

    It may have been, dave.

    Can we blame Dante for giving us Styx? (Except for a song or two.)
    :)
     
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    Sep 12, 2006 11:17 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Dang, that picture of Jane Russell is just gorgeous. I really think the starlets of today could learn a thing or two, they just don't make them with the same sort of elegence or style nowadays. At least not in Hollywood.
     
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    Sep 12, 2006 11:41 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I've always been a big fan of William Blake. Though his visual artwork isn't perhaps as highly regarded as his writing, to me it has a visceral, macabre -- even scary -- feel to it that is very appealing. Taken as a whole with his writing, he was brilliant.

    Here's his take on Dante:

     
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    Sep 12, 2006 11:45 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Then, there's this one of Lauren Bacall (yes it's huge, but the file size is worth it):

    http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Bacall,%20Lauren/Bacall,%20Lauren_03 .jpg

    Hell, just about any of Lauren Bacall from that era.

    Double hell, she's still good looking (umm, she IS still alive, right?)

    :)
     
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    Sep 12, 2006 1:18 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Here's lookin' at you, kid.
     
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    Sep 12, 2006 7:46 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I always liked the album art of Hipgnosis. Sometimes, it was more enjoyable than the music contained within it. Not referring to this one, 10CC "Deceptive Bends". <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1iU6r11LK4uWUphymHe5Y cmTDvI4V1" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1iU6r11LK4uWUphymHe5YcmTDvI4V1_t humb.jpg" border="0" />
     
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    Sep 13, 2006 8:56 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    > My first favorite painter: Hieronymus bosch.

    I like him too, but I find it disturbing to look too long and too closely, not because I think the paintings are strange or that Bosch is not sane, but because the paintings are intelligent and have a lot of thought behind them.

    > i think this is sally dali, right?

    No; Picasso (if you look, you will see the signature).

    [Edit: Belated dumb question.... Those Tex Arcana comics - are those really 'our' John Findley's work?]
     
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    Sep 13, 2006 9:54 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Yep.
     
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    Sep 13, 2006 9:55 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Wow! We have a famous person in our midst! ;) I feel embiggened! :)
     
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    Sep 13, 2006 2:00 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    He's a frickin genius.
     
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    Sep 15, 2006 11:56 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I'll second that! :D
     
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    Sep 16, 2006 12:45 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I take a few days away and people start makin' up stuff about me (I googled "genius" and came up with a whole lotta nuthin').
     
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    Sep 16, 2006 3:03 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    There ya go then, Led Zep should write a song about you .;)
     
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    Sep 16, 2006 3:20 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    i You've
    gotta be a genius! I'm wrestling with trying to do a job with Painter, 500+MB 8000x 6000 pixels. Now I see why you need that G5. Paintstroke, watch the rainbow wheel, repeat.
     
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    Sep 16, 2006 3:41 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Painter 9.5 has sped up all brushes by a huge margin.
     
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    Sep 29, 2006 7:45 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    &gt;Art I like. <br /> <br />All things looney. <br />XD <br /> <br />I thought the second one was particularly poignant after Mel Blanc passed away. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1fJW9UXIKjDJYRT9Npvle HYfZENHw0" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1fJW9UXIKjDJYRT9NpvleHYfZENHw0_t humb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1p40LdvD4KqpjEGwqck40 uw2Tg0" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1p40LdvD4KqpjEGwqck40uw2Tg0_thum b.gif" border="0" />
     
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    Sep 29, 2006 8:11 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Believe it or not, I designed and painted the biggest selling Looney Tunes poster ever.
     
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    Sep 29, 2006 10:41 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    but did you get PAID like the biggest selling looney toons poster EVAH?!!

    (effing cool either way dude.) :)
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 12:19 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I got about four days pay, as long as it took me to do it, and that was dragging it out.
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 7:06 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    >Believe it or not, I designed and painted the biggest selling Looney Tunes poster ever.

    I believe it, Steve.
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 7:10 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Love the black velvet (g, d, r) :)
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 11:29 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    LOL... why you little....
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 11:30 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Hey, Todie might like it too, I live for his approval.<br /><br /><dear lord, the sarcasm meter is going off the dial> Professor Frink.
     
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    Sep 30, 2006 11:40 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Nnnnya HEY nnnGlavin! That's not funny!
     
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    Oct 6, 2006 8:28 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    For insight into the successful presentation of art classics to the public, here's an interesting article on one avenue of approach today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20061006/ap_tr_ge/travel_brief_louvr e_high_museum
     
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    Oct 6, 2006 6:32 PM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    I like to collect art in a small sort of way (I'm a 'small c' collector) &amp; I thought I'd post a few thumbs of some of the stuff I've accumulated. <br /> <br />I got this at a gamer's convention (where I had a table selling magazines) a number of years back. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=13X08mfPqde2cwNzQszEc XAQBsrEaJ0" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/13X08mfPqde2cwNzQszEcXAQBsrEaJ0_ thumb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Ain't it the purtiest unicorn you ever did see? It's probably my favourite unicorn picture for reasons you can imagine. ;) <br /> <br />Here's another off-beat unicorn (no, I don't especially collect unicorn stuff). <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=12ovUo6fUMr8zwOb1Agqg UkcmcPU41" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/12ovUo6fUMr8zwOb1AgqgUkcmcPU41_t humb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />It's a sculpture - an inkwell, actually - made, I think from found objects. The plume is a pen; there is an inkwell underneath the 'little horn' on top. The sculpture looks different from the other side... <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1hX2fZ33lgGKtPVmuGGbV sNB7gcxq7" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1hX2fZ33lgGKtPVmuGGbVsNB7gcxq7_t humb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I hope the 'grinning skull' is clear enough. There is a letter opener (in front) which sticks through the neck of the unicorn, or rather, which CAN stick through the neck. While the morbid humour of the artist appeals to me, I still prefer to leave the letter opener out. <br /> <br />Totally different. I have a number of 'Mughal Style' miniature paintings I got from an Indian gifts store locally. They may be quite old; it is more difficult than I thought it would be to determine their age. This picture (a co-worker told me) is from the Kama Sutra; it is of Krishna &amp; Rani. The style is not fully realistic, but the detail is esquisite &amp; the colours gorgeous. The picture (not counting border) is about 3 by 4 inches &amp; looks to be a gouache painting. <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1X40rKUrrkF6rPxYWJDON 2nrkH0ET" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1X40rKUrrkF6rPxYWJDON2nrkH0ET_th umb.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />Even if it was painted last week instead of two hundred years ago, at $45.00, a steal at 10 times the price! :) <br /> <br />Here is a detail with more res: <br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1TtxfqYwTInWKdNNe8FvV h7l6N1" /></a> <img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1TtxfqYwTInWKdNNe8FvVh7l6N1_thum b.jpg" border="0" /> <br /> <br />(Incidentally, when I first became aware of the possible age of these paintings, I made strenuous attempts to convince the store owners not to sell them. My GUESS is that, perhaps, they came from old books which had been in their family's possession. It would be like taking the illuminated pages out of a family Bible &amp; selling them (assuming any of us posessed such a thing as a family Bible with illuminated pages!) I feel. In any case, both my attempts to convince the owners not to sell the paintings, and to ascertain the age of the paintings failed. Paper is rare in India (or has been, historically); the paper could be old (some of the ones I have have worm-holes in them), but the paintings new. Even if the pigments were found to be ones used in the 1800's, it could be because they are STILL being used. And there weren't exactly an abundance of Western scholars with knowledge of Far Eastern art for me to consult either.... Anyway.... I bought the best ones I could afford.)
     
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    Oct 7, 2006 1:29 AM   in reply to TheedarkOverLord
    Kami's stuff reminded me of a little hand-painted Russian pill box on my mantelpiece.

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