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    Oct 18, 2002 12:41 PM   in reply to dave milbut
    Delores Claiborn was excellent.

    The Dark tower series.

    My sister loved The Green Mile.

    The Running Man is good.

    I never read any of his stuff until the family connection. I have some
    great black and white photos of his house in ME.

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    Oct 18, 2002 12:42 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

    Dune by Frank Herbert(first 3)

    Aubrey/Maturin novels (20) by Patrick O'Brian

    The Diamond Edge and Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson
     
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    Oct 18, 2002 12:54 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    >Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

    ooo. recently read. awesome!

    >Dune by Frank Herbert(first 3)

    sci-fi classics!

    Anyone read Rose Red? Just saw the mini-series and it was good. The book's probably better!
     
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    Oct 18, 2002 7:33 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    >>I highly recommend "Farenheit 451."

    Now there's a book I need to read again. I read it years ago and loved it.

    Rich
     
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    Oct 18, 2002 8:21 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    > I highly recommend "Farenheit 451." I think a movie remake of it is coming
    along.

    If there was ever a book that should never be made into a movie this is it.
    Jay
     
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    Oct 18, 2002 8:21 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    If it is done well.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 5:30 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Yes I know the Tom and the Barrow Downs were missing., but that was probably the only part they could chop out without severly affecting the plot line. There is an extended DVD to be released in November I wonder If Tom will be in it.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 6:16 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    >that was probably the only part they could chop out without severly affecting the plot line.

    You're right, of course, but that's why it's ALWAYS cut. It would've been nice to stick to the script. :)

    >There is an extended DVD to be released in November I wonder If Tom will be in it.

    I don't think so. But maybe. I think we would've heard. The description of the platinum extended edition says 30 mins of unseen footage.... one can hope, but I doubt it.

    also:

    Four feature-length audio commentaries by director and writers, the design team, the production team, and the cast featuring more than 30 participants

    Two discs with hours of original content including multiple documentaries and design/photo galleries with thousands of images to give viewers an in-depth behind-the-scenes look at The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

    It's here:
    Amazon
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 6:58 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    No Tom. Here is the slashdot thread. The review is still slashdotted but someone has posted the text of it about half way down the comments. Sounds cool though.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 7:09 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Originally posted by Lundberg02:

    "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" by Fridtjof Capra is an attempt to meld eastern mysticism with outdated modern physics. It is nonsense written by a lunatic."


    It was by Gary Zukav, Lundberg...and I thought it was pretty brilliant. Which leads me to the questions....Have you actiually read it, or are you confusing it with Frijtof's "The Tao of Physics?" Which part of his work has lead you to such a dismissive tone about it? You don't cotton to Eastern Religion (or religion in general), you're being too critical of the science, which, by today's standards (The D.W-L M was written in '79) is a bit outdated, of course? You can't grasp the connections Zukav was making between the physics and religious experience? Zukav wasn't so much trying to meld the two seemingly disparate ideas as he was pointing the way toward that possibility. Perhaps you of too literate a mind to let go to the joyfulsness that can come with the free conjecture that precipitates and infuses many of modern physic's ideas. Most theorists in physics gain their insights, and will freely admit, by taking the pure science they already know and allow it to percolate and synthesize on congnitive levels that are outside of and parallel to the thought processes they use to bake a loaf of bread. Einstein explained a similar idea, as does Hawking.

    Capra wrote "The Tao of Physics" which took a considerably different tenor than Zukav's "The Dancing Wu-Li Masters."

    I'll admit that Zukav comes off as a bit of a flake lately, but that book was solid, and well-written, and went much further than any widely sanctified religious book (see: The Bible, The Koran, The Torah, The Bhagavad Gita, et al) in explaining to non-believers what all the hubbub is about.

    Carl (viol8tion)...I'm surprised you didn't chime in on this.....

    Ready..GO!!!!
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 8:16 AM   in reply to Lundberg02
    > You people need to get out of the 8 to 14 age group section.

    We apologize for not having your obvious taste and sophistication. Drop
    the F****g attitude!

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    Oct 19, 2002 8:39 AM   in reply to (Phos±four_dots)
    > Ready..GO!!!!

    I was out partying from 5PM yesterday until way toooo late. I am not in
    a pretty mood this morning, and I read that post, well I responded with
    the only appropriate response to his post directly, then finished
    reading the thread.

    The Dancing WuLi Masters is the best book that explains quantum physics
    in a manner that is understandable to the layman, that I have ever read.
    As far as I know, none of the theories that Zukov in his own twisted
    way expounds upon has been disproven. The book is all accepted scientic
    theory (when it was written) and proven principals. Zukov does have
    some flaky ideas, but in the WuLi Masters they take a back seat to the
    science. And any reasonably intelligenmt person can come to their own
    conclusions about the religious part.

    Nothing, to me, is more flaky than teachiung about a god that comes to
    earth and dies and comes back to life and ascends up to a heaven (in
    3-dimensions?) and is now foing to give eternal life to all of his
    children that refuse to use the minds he supposedly gave them and
    believe in something that cannot ever be proven and that flies in the
    face of logic; and who is going to eternally punish his children who use
    the minds he supposedly gave them to figure out "hey, this doesn't make
    sense" .. but I will not expound any further on that as it is sure to
    create controversy.

    I have Capra's The Web of Life, and this is one that I have never been
    able to get into. I got to chapter 3, and it still sits on my shelf, so
    I can neither recommend nor comment on it.

    Oh.. and a list of some of the other books on my shelf:
    The entire works of Voltaire - 26 volumes
    The Complete works of Shakespeare
    The Unabridged Edgar Allen Poe
    The Mind of God - Paul Davies
    The Holographic Universe - Michael Talbot (this one is really out there)
    Star Wave - Fred Alan Wolf
    The End of Science - John Horgan
    Wholeness and the Implicate Order - David Bohm
    The Last Three Minutes - Paul Davies
    The Origin of the Universe - John D. Barrow
    The Origin of Mankind - Richard Leakey

    Thoreau, Plato, Rollo May, RD Laing, William Blake...everything by
    Tolkien, everything by CS Lewis... Calvin and Hobbes... oh and 8
    different versions of the Bilble, the book of Mormon, the Koran, Strongs
    exhaustive concordance which tells you where the words are in the bible
    and then gives you the greek, hebrew or aramaic word it was translated
    from. So my interests are varied, and I would prefer to have a wide
    world view and at least a nominal understanding of all things rather
    than be narrow minded self-righteous idiot that waltzes into a
    conversation and makes disparaging remarks in order to elevate his own
    ego and cover up his own feeling of inadequacy.

    But I digress.

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    Oct 19, 2002 9:12 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Carl...have you read any P.D. Ouspensky?

    Wrap your head around "Tertium Organum" sometime. Even if you can't get into it right away, it's a book that would likely feel at home on your shelves.

    It was originally published circa 1904, and is still a mind-bender, even if some of the theories are outdated.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 9:52 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    I liked (emensely actually) The Tao of Pooh and The Te of Piglet! Very deceptive for their simplicity. Very profound thoughts hidden in such a simple bear.

    dave
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 10:51 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    You're right!!! Zukav and Capra are both flakes and I understandably mixed their authorship. Been a long time since I dismissed them in my narrow minded righteous manner. I can't remember the name of the guy who wote that load of crap about the morphogenetic field, either, but he clearly had never heard of diffusion phenomena in biology.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 12:56 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    >So my interests are varied, and I would prefer to have a wide
    world view and at least a nominal understanding of all things rather
    than be narrow minded self-righteous idiot that waltzes into a
    conversation and makes disparaging remarks in order to elevate his own
    ego and cover up his own feeling of inadequacy.

    Wow! Right on, Dave! ;-)

    "A Confederacy of Dunces" John Kennedy Toole

    ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!

    John
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 2:33 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    John, that was Carl... I was beginning to think I was auto-typeing cuz I didn't remember saying that.

    Right on Carl! :)
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 2:58 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    "Listen, little man!"
    -Wilhelm Reich

    A guy that really stirred the pot.
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 3:20 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Oops! sorry Carl, RIGHT ON! ;-)

    Had to give credit where it's due, but I agree with much of what Dave says around here too, hence the confusion!
     
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    Oct 19, 2002 3:31 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Best book the first time I read it " Letters from the Earth", Mark Twain.

    Shocked and delighted me !
     
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    Oct 20, 2002 8:30 AM   in reply to Lundberg02
    > the morphogenetic field

    That would be Rupert Sheldrake


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    Oct 20, 2002 10:21 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Dr. Seuss's Yertle the Turtle, The Big Brag, and the one with the cats tails (I don't recall the title).
     
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    Oct 20, 2002 2:12 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Personally, I always do my Photoshop work inside an Orgone Box and I clean my scanner with homeopathic Formula 409 diluted with superwater. BTW, the Orgone Box is outside in my crop circle.

    Wilhelm Reich and R D Laing. Get serious. Why do people always want to believe the least likely possibilty?
     
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    Oct 20, 2002 6:32 PM   in reply to Lundberg02
    > Why do people always want to believe the least likely possibilty?

    Where did I say I believed what was in the books, you moron?

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    Oct 20, 2002 6:38 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Gee, I thought if it was in a book or on TV or in the movies it had to be true. Isn't that, like, a law or something?

    BTW, can someone help me? I've been trying to install 7.01 upgrade on my 286 and it says it can't find my 70 directory. It's right there under DOS!!!

    :)
     
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    Oct 20, 2002 6:52 PM   in reply to dave milbut
    > Gee, I thought if it was in a book or on TV or in the movies it had to be true. Isn't that, like, a law or something?

    Dave, you're right! If you read it in a magazine or newspaper, or in a
    book, if you saw it on TV, or on the internet, then you obviously must
    believe it.

    I try to keep my horizons broad by reading a lot, from fiction to
    non-fiction, from liberal political mags to right-wing political mags,
    from mainstream religious books such as the bible to the lost gospels,
    from eastern mysticism to Ayn Rand. And guess what, I am intelligent
    enough to glean truths from any of them, and to toss the garbage. In
    other words, when eating fish, one spits out the bones!

    I would not recommend weak minded individual pursue this course of
    action for fear that they might unwillingly believe some nonsense and
    become brainwashed.

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    Oct 20, 2002 8:22 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    >I try to keep my horizons broad by reading a lot, from fiction to non-fiction, from liberal political mags to right-wing political mags, from mainstream religious books such as the bible to the lost gospels, from eastern mysticism to Ayn Rand. And guess what, I am intelligent enough to glean truths from any of them, and to toss the garbage. In other words, when eating fish, one spits out the bones!

    Dude. Wow. You pretty much summed up my philosophy of life. Every [expletive deleted by forum host] word. 'Cept you forgot music. Let me add... from classical to zydago, to blues to swing, to rap and hip hop to pantara and slayer. What'dya think?

    I belive in the afterlife, and I think the only things you take with you when your go are you love and your knowlege. Make sure you have enough of both when you get there!

    word.
    Peace.
    dave
     
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    Oct 21, 2002 4:22 AM   in reply to dave milbut
    In my car presently I have hard rock (Zep, AC/DC) and zydeco/cajun
    (Buckwheat Zydeco, Sonny Landreth, Beausoleil) and blues (Blind Lemon
    Jefferson, BB King, Rob't Johnson). In my collection at home I have
    classical, I love Bach. I have Jazz, don't care for acid jazz so much
    as I like Miles Davis & John Coltrane. I love swing, have a lot (2
    words) Benny Goodman. Sinatra is my favorite. For rock I have eclectic
    taste, such as Morphine, Radiohead, Nick Cave. At work on my rack I have
    Days of the New, War, Primus, Nick Cave and the Bad seeds, Blues
    Traveller, John Mayall, BB King, 3 Doors Down, Collective Soul, Stray
    Cats, the Sundays, North Mississippi All Stars, Zappa, The Residents,
    The Jolly Boys.

    'nuff said!

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    Oct 21, 2002 4:40 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Dude, you are the anti-dave, I hope we never meet, we may explode!!! :)
     
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    Oct 23, 2002 3:27 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    How come you haven't mentioned the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan?!? I'm suprised, Dave!
     
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    Oct 23, 2002 7:55 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    it's in my list em... i'm re-reading path of daggers now! :) The Wheel weaves as the Wheel will.

    Suravye ninto manshima taishite,
    (Peace Favor Your Sword),

    dave
     
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    Oct 26, 2002 7:20 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Just started the Red Badge of Courage today. I heard it's supposed to be pretty good. I'll let you know. It's not too thick!

    Oh! Here's one I forgot. Just recently read it. It's kind of a christian end-times thing (not "Left Behind" although that's good too!)

    It's called the Christ Clone Trilogy (3 books) by James BeauSeigneur. They're awesome! and they're complete. If anyone's been waiting for the next Left Behind... get these, you'll be blown away!
     
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    Oct 26, 2002 10:55 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Bonfire of the Vanities was brilliant but the film was rubbish, moronic film maker thought it was a comedy .. yes to Aldous Huxley and George Orwell, plus Orwell's other work and especially his essays, plenty of food for thought there... Steven King but horror/fantasy only, stuff like Geralds' game I just found boring and I thought Green Mile was patronising and stereotypical ...

    lots of easy-going crime stuff like Patricia Cornwell ... No Logo ... Stupid White Men .... re-read some Dickens when I have plenty of time, very dense, much of it funny, some just too sentimental ... still re-read Hitchhiker's from time to time, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, needs revisiting ... Zadie Smith's White Teeth was interesting, different ... to be honest, at the moment, lots of manuals and how-to books / javascript tutorials as I grapple with web-stuff I'm working on, plus newspapers (Guardian, Observer, Socialist Worker when I can get it), don't seem to have time to fit books in much lately (so how come I've got time to hang out in forums .... :) .. agree with the religion as superstition comments but don't want to get into that ...
     
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    Oct 27, 2002 6:47 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Viginia Woolf's "To the Lighthouse" is 200 pages of poetry disguised as prose.
     
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    Oct 30, 2002 5:05 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    "The Magic Christian" by Terry Southern.

    Anything by S J Perelman
     
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    Oct 31, 2002 4:23 AM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    "Somewhere a Roscoe..."
     
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    Nov 3, 2002 4:53 PM   in reply to (Exaspera)
    Ok finished Red Badge of Courage on friday! Very cool. It's a regular guy's journey of "self realizaiton" or "becoming a man" framed by a tangental battle going on somewhere! :) Great quick read. Easy to see why it's been around almost 150 years now.
     
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