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1. joshtownsend,

Mar 5, 2009 7:48 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Size of the project file is the same or the collected media is the same size? More info.

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2. (El_Guero),

Mar 5, 2009 8:15 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Collected media is what I expected to be dramatically smaller, but all of the media files are exactly the same size in both the original folder and the new folder than contains the "trimmed" project.(4.5GB).

Before trimming, the project manager reports the original project size as well as the estimated trimmed project size to be 4.5GB.

When I added the clips to the timeline, I used "set in point" and "set out point" in the source frame and then dragged the clip to the timeline. This is the way I have always done it, but this is the first time I am trying to create a trimmed project, so maybe it is not the correct way.

The option "Create New Trimmed Project" is what I have selected in the project manager.

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3. Colin Brougham,

Mar 5, 2009 8:19 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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What kind of media are you using? For instance, DV AVIs/MOVs captured from tape can be trimmed, but any flavor of P2 MXF file (DV/DV50/DVHD) is simply copied, wholesale, without any trimming.

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4. (El_Guero),

Mar 5, 2009 8:41 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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It's all HDV 24p 1440 x 1080 mpegs captured directly from my camera. That probably explains it.

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5. Colin Brougham,

Mar 5, 2009 8:54 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Yeah, I think you're out of luck with HDV. The project manager is, unfortunately, rather limited when it comes to anything beyond SD AVI type media. Adobe's not so much to blame for this one, but more so the consortiums that decide the "standards" for this sort of thing.

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6. (El_Guero),

Mar 5, 2009 9:08 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Thanks for your help, Colin. I guess I won't get to save as much disk space as I had hoped. But HDV isn't about saving disk space is it? Not a big deal I guess since the cost continues to drop.

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7. Colin Brougham,

Mar 5, 2009 9:33 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Yes, HDV is the same data rate as DV (25Mbps), so you're looking at about 13GB per hour of footage. Even a smallish hard drive by today's standards is going to net you HOURS of storage space. That said, individually logging clips and capturing only what you need for an edit is good practice, and can help keep you storage requirements at a minimum--with the added benefit of less footage to wade through when it actually comes time to do the edit.

Saving time at the outset of a project rarely equates to saving time once you get into the project... :)

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8. (El_Guero),

Mar 5, 2009 10:18 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Problem with individually logging clips is that Premiere Pro CS4 (at least on my Mac) will not preview HDV in the capture panel. You have to preview on the LCD of the camera. My camera has a very nice LCD, but when I shoot many takes of the same scene, it can be pretty hard to decide which ones are worthy of capturing. I assume someday I'll be able to preview HDV on my computer display so that I can avoid having to capture so much.

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9. Jim Simon,

Mar 5, 2009 10:25 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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>when I shoot many takes of the same scene, it can be pretty hard to decide which ones are worthy of capturing.

All of them. Then use Bridge to label and choose the best.

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10. (El_Guero),

Mar 5, 2009 11:27 AM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Jim,

How would this be better than what I do now: Capture each take into Premiere Pro, view them in the Source panel and place the best in a "Keepers" bin. I have no need for the rejected clips; if I do need them, they are archived on the original tape.

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11. Jim Simon,

Mar 5, 2009 1:41 PM in reply to (El_Guero)

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It'd be better because you can just capture the whole tape, no sitting and watching while it captures. No starting/stopping or shuttling of the tape.

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12. Curt Wrigley,

Mar 5, 2009 1:49 PM in reply to (El_Guero)

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My typical workflow is similar to El Guero's. That gives me a hands off acquisition time, and the opportunity to do a rough cut pass as I make subclips with meaningful metadata

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13. Jim Simon,

Mar 5, 2009 2:07 PM in reply to (El_Guero)

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I suppose it doesn't really matter all that much. I just hate doing that kind of thing during capture. I find it much easier to deal with finite clips on a hard drive after capturing.

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14. Curt Wrigley,

Mar 5, 2009 4:08 PM in reply to (El_Guero)

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I also. Jim, I think we are saying the same thing, but Im saying in a more confusing manner.

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15. James P. Brady,

May 25, 2011 3:55 PM in reply to (El_Guero)

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Anybody know whether CS5.5 adds trim functionality to the previously problematic file types?

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16. James P. Brady,

Jun 16, 2011 3:44 PM in reply to James P. Brady

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Answering my own question here with a link to another thread:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/861947

The answer for now is no.

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