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End Notes in InDesign?

Mar 25, 2009 7:23 AM

Hello fellow InDesign users,

I'm thinking of using InDesign to write my thesis, so I'm wondering: Is InDesign capable of creating endnotes?

I couldn't find anything about endnotes in Help. There is plenty there about footnotes but for stylistic reasons, I don't want to use footnotes.

Has anyone else used InDesign to write a thesis?

Thanks,

-Brad
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    (Kenneth_Benson),
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    Mar 25, 2009 8:29 AM
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    No endnotes in ID yet. ID will import endnotes from Word and show them
    as static numbered text (i.e., get sequencing and quantity right in Word
    before you take it to ID because there's no renumbering once it's in ID).

    I think if I was writing I would use a word processor unless my thesis
    had some very strict graphics quality requirements (press-quality color,
    fine typography).

    --
    Kenneth Benson
    Pegasus Type, Inc.
    www.pegtype.com
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  • Peter Spier
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    Peter Spier,
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    Mar 25, 2009 8:39 AM
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    There's a script here: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc43a6d/3 that converts ID footnotes to end notes, but it was written for CS2 and I'm not sure if it will work in newer versions. You might want to check the exchange.

    Of course, you'd want to wait until you're done, I think, to run it.
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  • Bob Levine
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    Bob Levine,
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    Mar 25, 2009 10:00 AM
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    IIRC, CS2 only supported endnotes.

    Bob
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  • Peter Spier
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    Peter Spier,
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    Mar 25, 2009 10:57 AM
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    the other thread says it's a CS2 script. ????
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  • Fred Goldman
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    Fred Goldman,
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    Mar 25, 2009 11:23 AM
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    CS2 is the first version that had footnotes. CS and earlier only had
    endnotes (but, also not real endnotes).
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  • peter at knowhowpro
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    peter at knowhowpro,
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    Mar 26, 2009 7:03 AM
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    You can use cross-references to create endnotes in InDesign. They are built into IDCS4. For CS3 and CS2, look into the commercial ID Cross-References plug-in from dtptools.com.

    The general process:

    * Create a paragraph style that includes an auto-numbered list property.
    * Create endnote paragraphs, tagged with this style, in the desired location - end of current document, or in a separate document that's part of a book.
    * Create a suitable character style for the endnote reference number that will appear in the text.
    * At the desired location in the text, insert a cross-reference to the desired endnote paragraph, using a cross-reference format that captures only the paragraph's auto-number and includes the character style you've created for the endnote reference.

    The auto-numbered list that's applied to endnote paragraphs adjusts when a new endnote paragraph is inserted between existing endnotes or at the end of the endnotes, and when an endnote paragraph is deleted or cut to the clipboard and pasted in a different position in the collection.

    You may need to update the cross-references manually to make the in-text reference numbers display the correct endnote reference number.

    See the cross-references help for IDCS4 or the DTP Tools plug-in for specific details.

    HTH

    Regards,

    Peter Gold
    KnowHow ProServices
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  • Bob Bringhurst
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    Bob Bringhurst,
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    Mar 31, 2009 10:40 AM
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    I wrote a blog entry that fleshes out Peter's excellent advice:

    http://blogs.adobe.com/indesigndocs/2009/03/endnotes_in_indesign_cs4.h tml

    Thanks, Peter!
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  • peter at knowhowpro
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    Apr 1, 2009 8:15 AM
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    Shucks, folks. This is just an old FrameMaker technique.

    Thanks for adding the detail, Bob!

    Regards,

    Peter Gold
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  • NitroPress
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    Apr 1, 2009 5:13 PM
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    ...And FrameMaker would be a far better tool to write a thesis in than ID. Theses and dissertations are about fussy typesetting and not much else that ID does well... and ID is not at its strongest in long docs with fussy typesetting.
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  • Peter Kahrel
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    Peter Kahrel,
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    Apr 5, 2009 11:41 PM
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    I wrote two scripts that implement Peter's and Bob's excellent advice:

     

    http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/dynamic_endnotes.html

     

    Thanks Peter G. and Bob!

     

    Peter K.

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