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I agree; just waiting for the wysiwyg editor to open seems to take forever. As If I needed to specify which font to use to ask a question... This forum is much less useful as a learning tool than it was before. How long do you think it will be before people start inserting pornographic videos and bring the whole thing crashing down?
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"I agree; just waiting for the wysiwyg editor to open seems to take forever. As If I needed to specify which font to use to ask a question... This forum is much less useful as a learning tool than it was before. How long do you think it will be before people start inserting pornographic videos and bring the whole thing crashing down?" QUOTE INSERTED FOR BENEFIT OF JOEY1978
All good points. I wondered about the usefullness of file uploads, too. Is this really necessary? Personally, I won't open any file attachments unless I know they're from a trusted source.
Nancy O.
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LRK, Such nautical terms.
Sorry about that. I love nautical terms because they represent life in so many cool ways.
On another note, I would like to at least make one suggestion. It would be helpful if we could set our preferences to reverse the order of each thread, to where the last post is at the top, and so forth. This would at least prevent the continuous need to find the last page to see what has been posted.
As for bookmarking, at this point I guess the best we can do is use our browsers to bookmark. Not very high tech I admit but it looks like high tech has turned on it's heals and we are headed the other direction.
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A very crude way of estimating is to count the number of posts and replies. The first page of 30 posts contains approximately 130 replies.
The value of this forum should not be measured by the number of posts and replies, rather by the number of issues that it solves. The "crude" measure that you are suggesting is more likely to measure the amount of noise that this forum produces than its effectiveness in helping people better understand Adobe products and how to use them to their advantage.
If we are looking for a good indicator of this forum's success, then we should be looking at the number of solved issues as functions of the following:
1) The total number of posts.
2) The total number of responses.
3) The average number of visits to unresolved problems.
4) etc.
The argument that Newsgroup Users cannot see whether a problem has been resolved or not should no longer be an issue, as everyone is working in the same medium.
. . . the only way to persuade Adobe to do so is by using well thought-out arguments.
Adobe is likely no better positioned to cut through the noise than any of its contributers. Well-reasoned arguments are easily lost amidst mayhem.
Roddy
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If we are looking for a good indicator of this forum's success, then we should be looking at the number of solved issues as functions of the following:
1) The total number of posts.
2) The total number of responses.
3) The average number of visits to unresolved problems.
4) etc.Are those mutually exclusive? If so, I choose #4.
The argument that Newsgroup Users cannot see whether a problem has been resolved or not should no longer be an issue, as everyone is working in the same medium.
What gives you that idea?
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Mark A. Boyd
Keep-On-Learnin'Message was edited by: Mark A. Boyd (added my sig)
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Are those mutually exclusive?
What would give you reason to believe that they are mutually exclusive?
What gives you that idea?
There are only two ways to respond to questions of which I am aware.
1) Go online, enter the forum, and observe the results.
2) Respond to questions through email.
Certainly with regard to the first you cannot help but observe, whether a questions has been checked as resolved. Do you not receive some indication of the same through email?
Roddy
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Completely wrong. Although NNTP access has been removed, it's perfectly possible to do everything through email or an RSS feed. I'm monitoring several forums through email, which displays no icons, avatars, or images.
One does not require an icon, avatar, or image to receive an indication that a topic has been resolved. The same information could be passed through text. Is it not? :smile
In any case this diverges from the question of measuring this forum's success.
The question of whether an issue has been "resolved" is also moot. An inexperienced person is quite likely to mark a question as "answered", even if the answer is wrong, incomplete, or no longer represents best practice.
The last time I posted in this regard it was in response to how one might measure success in this forum. Within this context I would much prefer a measure of consumer satisfaction over the "crude" measure of noise that you have suggested.
Moreover, once a question has been marked as "answered", the setting cannot be changed.
Obviously a weakness in the system, but still a better indicator of success than your proposed measure of noise.
Things are not quite so clear cut as you seem to think.
If you ever knew how I thought, then communication between us would not be so difficult. Once again, your thoughts with regard to the vertical centering of text in a floated <span> tag would be greatly appreciated. Just do not provide them here, as this is not where I posed the original question.
Roddy
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I am not aware of a "resolved" email notification, but maybe I haven't
participated in such a thread yet.
Is it your experience that threads marked as answered are accurate and
reliable?
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Keep-on-learnin'
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Message was edited by: Mark A. Boyd. Interesting. I was able to change my "on" to "in" in my emailed post from the Web interface.
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Is it your experience that threads marked as answered are accurate and reliable?
As there is no one to monitor the quality of posts anyway, does it matter?
Important is that the Asker walks away satisfied. If his satisfaction should prove illusionary, then he can always come back with a new question or reopen his old one. In fact, reopening an old question should automatically require removal of the user's previous satisfaction setting.
Also, important is that the so-called ACEs of this forum encourage users to make use of the setting.
Roddy
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As for "Resolved" or "Answered", I don't think they carry much weight at all. I am under the impression that the vast majority of Web forum newbies don't bother to look at previous threads at all. "Answered" is completely useless for that majority. I know there are exceptions, but I suspect that those who actually do look for past posts are smart enough to distinguish the quality of the answers for themselves.
This statement appears based on the forum's past technology -- not on its current format.
Roddy
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