Does anyone think this forum is an improvement?

[the_real_blu]

The previous webforum/NNTP interface had roughly 90 percent of the questions coming from the webforum, and 90 percent of the mostly correct replies coming from the NNTP newgroup users.

The newsgroup users are for the most part NOT going to use this web forum.

so for the most part- there are 50 or 100 people who tried to offer help daily, who are not "in here" and won't participate because this web forum interface is just slow and clunky and flashy. We just want TEXT. NNTP. WORDS.

I've been ACE and TMM longer than i can remember. Not renewing.

[Scott Falkner]

Slow? Hell yes. Overly complicated? Ditto. Usual Adobe eye candy and gloss to replace slick and functional? Check.

This is the worst "upgrade" since the last four upgrades to Illustrator. If you have sex with Adobe you'll have to be on top. They can only screw up.

[typomann]

Yea...but we all get to see David's picture...so its not a total loss...

[David_Powers]

[Guest]

No. without the "Pros" helping us, what good is it?

I think that the bigwigs in charge of Adobe were worried about job security so they needed to screw with what works, so that they'd have something to fix for the next 10 years - you know, create some job security...

And the fonts in the window is too big and takes up too much room.

[Guest]

First of it's powered by Jive Software, that's a plus and the layout is simply amazing. Overall I believe they've done a great job.

I visited the forum many times in the and I never felt compelled to write a post, but now here I am. Good job guys.

[Guest]

Your first post! Now we're going to take you out back of the forums to initiate you...

(welcome)

:  )

[Guest]

Saskatchewanobie wrote:

Your first post! Now we're going to take you out back of the forums to initiate you...

Not on my watch, Saskatchewanobie.

Roddy

[MurraySummers]

David: I'm concerned.  Your head seems to have lost its native aspect ratio.  Is there something we need to know?  Were you recently run over by a beer truck?

[David_Powers]

Murray *ACE* wrote:

Were you recently run over by a beer truck?

No, but I might have drunk too much wine. I'm now yin and yang until my 128 x128 mug shot is approved.

[Paevo_Kelley]

Plus, now I'm getting messages from this bloody forum in my email... What a huge waste of code this forum....

[JoeDaSilva]

Just go to "Your Stuff" and "Preferences" and you can turn that off Paevo.

[Paevo_Kelley]

Thanks, Joey; Cheers...

[typomann]

I was annoyed with that at first, but now instead of looking the board over, I just get notified to an addition to a post I am watching. I just set up a folder for DW Discussion and let them go there and I can go back at my leasure...

[supergran 123]

OK. I tried it.  I had to do that in the interest of fairness but people running businesses don't have time for this.

Rule 1. know your customers and how they work.

What Adobe are saying is that they don't care.  Interesting course of action in a competitive market.  Of course community forums have no impact on product choice, brand awareness and brand trust.  So that's OK.

Jan

[JoeDaSilva]

I like the new forum, the features it provides over the previous application are great. I'm also happy the quirks the NNTP replies brought to the forum side are gone.

[the_real_blu]

Yes- the quirks of the NNTP-->webforum sync are gone. But- the CONTENT provided by many of the NNTP posters will be gone.

New widgets and buttons and features may seem great to someone who always used the web forum to access this. They are a joke/impediment/hassle to people who for up to ten years have just READ questions and TYPED answers. I would read most of the 300 plus messages over the course of a day, and reply to maybe 30 or so. I read and type fast and have a fair memory and a drafts folder of common replies or research info.

I just opened two threads from the first page thread display for this forum in new tabs in IE7 on a new wintel box with 2 gigs memory.

"Internet Explorer has encountered an error and must close now. Do you wish to send an error report to Microsoft"

Even if it doesn't blow up the browser, 30+ seconds to open a new page or just plain go BACK to the list of threads is the killer.

[Paevo_Kelley]

I agree; just waiting for the wysiwyg editor to open seems to take forever. As If I needed to specify which font to use to ask a question... This forum is much less useful as a learning tool than it was before. How long do you think it will be before people start inserting pornographic videos and bring the whole thing crashing down?

[Nancy OShea]

"I agree; just waiting for the wysiwyg editor to open seems to take forever. As If I needed to specify which font to use to ask a question... This forum is much less useful as a learning tool than it was before. How long do you think it will be before people start inserting pornographic videos and bring the whole thing crashing down?" QUOTE INSERTED FOR BENEFIT OF JOEY1978

All good points.  I wondered about the usefullness of file uploads, too.  Is this really necessary?  Personally, I won't open any file attachments unless I know they're from a trusted source.

Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists
www.alt-web.com/

[dbboyne]

Looks like the nntp sever went down about 1 min. ago

"Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
news:grg25v$i2o$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> Sorry.  Make that April 7th not 6th, Doh.

"Thierry" <thierry@invalid.com> wrote in message news:grg3np$j3t$1@forums.macromedia.com...

> "Nancy O" <nancyoshea1@NOSPAMatt.net> wrote in message
> news:grg25v$i2o$1@forums.macromedia.com...
> > Sorry.  Make that April 7th not 6th, Doh.
>
> I'm here!
>

Thierry did get the last post.

[Ken_Binney-GnPIX3]

Ridiculous decision to wipe out Newsgroup.Access.

A key reason for choosing DW as a development tool is the near-instantaneous support available through the newsgroup

It is most disheartening to watch a company make decisions like this.

[bewidered]

Not at all, very cumbersome and slow.

Bewildered.

[MurraySummers]

It appears to me that bewildered is bewidered.

[bewidered]

Bewilderment, in itself, is not so bad

Plastics....

That is the future

[LRK_2]

I am still scratching my head over some of these changes. This new forum setup seems inefficient and difficult to keep track of. My preference was the original Adobe Forum setup. It was pretty close to what I would call the perfect forum setup. Professional, user friendly, and well thought out in so many ways. I can't for the life of me understand why Adobe would change to a setup like this for professionals. On the plus side, I will be keeping track of much fewer threads this way, so I won't waste as much time using the forums.

I also understand that Adobe removed the ability to use news readers. Whereas I don't use a news reader, I know that it is supposed to be a very efficient way for those who help others, such as Murray. Because I want to support our faithful Support base, I am in favor of requesting that Adobe give this feature back to it's support base.

I keep trying to guess why change something that worked so well for so long was replaced. It wasn't broken; why did it need to be fixed? Now it's broken. Now it feels more like teenie bopper town than professional Adobe interaction. I guess the word is: Juvenile?