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Does anyone think this forum is an improvement?

Apr 6, 2009 11:54 AM

  Latest reply: kiusau, May 24, 2009 5:32 PM
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    Apr 9, 2009 7:42 PM   in reply to juanfordroad

    juanfordroad wrote:

     

    Sorry but I'm not smart enough to find the spelllll checker

     

    It's alright.  With your insight the bad spelling is easily overcome.

     

    Roddy

     
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    Apr 9, 2009 7:49 PM   in reply to kiusau

    Two-Chay, Old Roddy!

     
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    Apr 9, 2009 7:52 PM   in reply to juanfordroad

    Hope springs eternal...

     
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    Apr 9, 2009 8:31 PM   in reply to juanfordroad

    As a newcomer you seem to have misinterpreted this thread. That's OK.

     

    This is not about egos or a group of intellectual elite.

     

    The forums have always been about helping each other and sharing knowledge about DW. I was a newbie here in 1999 and have learned much from many brilliant minds here over the years and enjoyed the community spirit that was evident.

     

    For 10+ years (Macromedia and now Adobe) there have been Dreamweaver forums accessible via web and newsreaders. Worked beautifully.

     

    Adobe has now "upgraded" the web forums (where all the questions have historically come from) and got rid of the newsreader forums (where most of the answers have usually come from). Why, we don't know.

     

    That would be fine if the end result was overall improvement but from where I'm sitting it's a big step backwards for no discernible reason.

     

    So years of knowledge and understanding of DW looks like disappearing overnight simply because of a change in forum technology.

     

    Think of the recent uproar when Facebook merely re-formatted users' homepages telling them it was better. True, people don't like change. But then again why change what's not broken?

     

    Anyway, this is completely OT for this forum so I'll leave it there.

     
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    Apr 9, 2009 11:21 PM   in reply to the real blu

    I'll think over if i will send this or if i will even log in again.

     

    Stop feeling sorry for yourself and log into the forum entitled "Dynamic HTML General Discussion".  Your remorse is unfounded.

     

    Roddy

     
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    Apr 9, 2009 11:41 PM   in reply to the real blu

    Sounds like you need to take a break  Blue   :-)    I can really understand your frustration, been there, done that over the last few days !

     

    I've had to step back a few times over the last few days as well.  You will probably read about all the hassles I've had with trying to post things here under one username - it just won't stick !    and I end up losing all my history, settings etc.,

     

    We all get frustrated at times, that's when it's best to withdraw, take a deep breath, do something else and come back more freshed  :-)

    (says that as a reminder to self as well  ;-)

     
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    Apr 10, 2009 12:26 AM   in reply to the real blu

    Hey "the real blu"...

     

    You never did say why you marked the topic as answered, nor why that was accorded to the particular individual / post you accorded it to?

     

    Cheers,

     

    JJ

     
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    Apr 10, 2009 4:52 PM   in reply to the real blu

    It's a good forum. I mean really, a forum is a forum and is really only as good as it's users.

    I agree that with extra formatting capabilities comes the possibility of even more abuse and can lead to improper website posters etc...

    but really it comes down to how well the forums are administered and monitored. I know as a smaller company, I had to eliminate my forums due to an increase in abuse. One message always spawns another since the search engines start finding you for certain raunchier keywords then everyone wanting to advertise those sights comes crashing down your door.

     

    But as I said it all comes down to the people.

    Good people, good help and good debates and good advice that's what makes a forum great.

     

    The interface is a standard one seen in many other forums.

    A WYSIWYG interface is the new standard for most forums.

     

    If you don't want it there is probably check mark in your profile settings that you can change to not use the WYSIWYG

    interface and just use a text only interface.


    DJ Emir

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    Apr 11, 2009 12:12 AM   in reply to the real blu

    Yup... apparently only the OP can mark it answered... as you said, must have been by mistake.... anyway, was just curious...

     

    Take care and all the best...

     

    JJ

     
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    May 24, 2009 10:22 AM   in reply to JayJhabrix

    JayJhabrix wrote:  Yup... apparently only the OP can mark it answered... as you said, must have been by mistake.

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/1977080#1977080

     

    Roddy

     
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    May 24, 2009 2:41 PM   in reply to the real blu

    the real blu wrote: I am going to burn it, and some Mod is going to wipe out every letter i've ever typed. Good nite.

     

    Well, if not a moderator, then likely a Community Expert -- same thing.

    I find it abominable that one-way contributors are also moderators. No third-party arbitration!

     

    You post your question, the "gods" descend, and then disappear immune from what follows as they manipulate responses from the clouds, and this is called a users forum!

     

    Roddy

     
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    May 24, 2009 2:43 PM   in reply to kiusau

    As it happens, Community Experts are not all moderators.

     
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    May 24, 2009 2:47 PM   in reply to Kath-H

    Kath-H wrote:

     

    As it happens, Community Experts are not all moderators.

     

    I am checking now, but have already discovered at least one who is.

     

    Roddy

     
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    May 24, 2009 2:53 PM   in reply to kiusau

    Oh, I'm sure. I'm just pointing out that not all of them are, so it's not the same thing. Also, some hosts/mods are employees, so not Community Experts by definition.

     
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    May 24, 2009 3:45 PM   in reply to kiusau

    kiusau wrote:

     

    I am checking now, but have already discovered at least one who is.

    There is no secret about it. There are three moderators in the Dreamweaver forum: Murray Summers, Nadia Perre, and myself.

     

    I have edited some messages posted by you and Jay Jhabrix earlier today because both of you were in clear breach of the forum guidelines.

    Personal insults, verbal attacks, and generally offensive, disrespectful, or  abusive messages will be edited or deleted by forum hosts. Repeated violations  will result in temporary suspension of forum access, eventually leading to being  banned from forums.

    One of the comments that I deleted today was libellous.For what it's worth, in the past few weeks I have also deleted a number of personal attacks on you before you had chance to see them.

     

    Personal attacks have no place here, and will be deleted. Under the Terms of Use of this forum, content can be deleted "for any reason (or no reason)". By participating in this forum, everyone is considered to have agreed to those terms. Having said that, I take no pleasure in deleting content, and do so only when I believe it absolutely necessary, such as to avoid the flame war that broke out between you and Jay in the thread that I locked earlier today.

     

    This is a forum for the discussion of Dreamweaver-related issues. Everyone who participates here does so on a voluntary basis. Most people who come here in search of advice or help manage to find it. However, when someone offers help, but is unable to provide the answer, there is no obligation to pursue the matter any further.

     

    The moderators in this forum also happen to be those who spend most time answering questions. If everyone sticks by the forum guidelines, we can devote our time to doing that, rather than trying to intervene in squabbles between participants who have taken a dislike to one another. The position of moderator or "forum host", by the way, is unpaid.

     
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    May 24, 2009 5:32 PM   in reply to David_Powers

    David_Powers wrote: There is no secret about it. There are three moderators in the Dreamweaver forum: Murray Summers, Nadia Perre, and myself.

     

    Thank you for confirming my suspicion.  I must say, however, that I offer no apology for my own self-defense, but remain accusatory toward the forum's management for allowing Jhabrix to post to my entries.  I, nor anyone else, needs a monkey on his back.  That he remains is indication of the effectiveness of your intervention.

     

    Every response to your other claims has already been said numerous times, and I have no desire to spend any more energy in their discovery, as the past dictates that you will only disappear behind Adobe's curtain of control when your arguments no longer hold water.

     

    My jQuery discovery is my gift to the community offered in return for the recent assistance that I received.

     

    Roddy

     
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