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How is the Student Edition different?

Apr 17, 2009 6:45 PM

Hello,

 

I am a college student and while browsing my university software store I noticed they had Adobe Creative Suite 4: Web Premium Student Edition. I was wondering what makes the student edition different from the premium set?  Is the education set the premium set just with some learning stuff?

 

Thank you for all the help.

 

I am sorry if this is not in the right forum.


 
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    Apr 17, 2009 10:50 PM   in reply to Tim629

    You've just raised the matter of a student edition to my awareness - very relevant to me (I hope!), doing postgraduate study...

    Whilst I can't begin to give you an answer, I can suggest that you put your question directly to the specialists whose pictures and ids appear on the right at the top of the forum: they must be Adobe people, and must, one presumes, be in possession of the facts you need.

    Hope you get an answer: I'd love to know what it is!

     

     

    M-R

    Sydney, Oz

     
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    Apr 17, 2009 11:14 PM   in reply to rosdeoz

    I can explain the difference. Student editions aren't any different from non-student editions in the look, feel, and features. What does change is if you can use it commercially. I always buy non-student edition of everything at www.journeyed.com (I am sure they can beat your schools price by far). I bought adobe cs4 web premium NOT STUDENT EDITION THE REAL MCCOY for 659 or so on that site. The student edition is a lot cheaper because of the restraints.  The poster above me is misled on some information. The people posted on the right are the people most active in the community this does not imply they have any relation to adobe. They may have the title Adobe Certified expert (or something like that) but the Adobe Certified expert is just a certificate which means you are very knowledgable in a program or programs if you have more than one certificate. ACE goes through adobe partners and if you pass you can put your ACE.  I am not certified yet but I am going for my ACE photoshop certificate. NOTE: ACE doesn't give you more features (that I am aware of) if you want to know about ACE go visit the official page http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/ace.html

     

    if you have questions you would have to contact adobe partners because I can't tell you what you can or can't do with the certificate. I believe only adobe partners has the power to do that. Nothing I've mentioned about ace is an answer it is just what I think or my opinion and I am liable to be incorrect... I am a lot! Only adobe can give you answers to questions about ACE (At least thats what I think....)

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 12:34 AM   in reply to Tim629

    There is no difference between the commercial and student versions except that the Student Edition is for students. You're not supposed / allowed to use it for commercial work.

     

    You can buy it from any stockist on production of proof that you're a student.

     

    If you later want to use it for commercial work you can upgrade to a full license (I'm not sure, but i think, at a discounted rate).

     

    Cheers,

     

    JJ

     

    PS: This is a user-to user forum. Adobe employees don't really hang around here in an official capacity. So, do not ever expect answers from Adobe here. What you will receive will be help from other users, some of whom are extremely knowledgeable and experienced. Some of these may or may not be Adobe Certified / Community Experts.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 12:45 AM   in reply to rosdeoz

    "Whilst I can't begin to give you an answer, I can suggest that you put your question directly to the specialists whose pictures and ids appear on the right at the top of the forum: they must be Adobe people, and must, one presumes, be in possession of the facts you need."

     

    They are not Adobe employees. They are DW users, volunteers and forum regulars. They've just posted a lot to this forum and provided invaluable help on technical issues over a period of time to many here.

     

    The Adobe Community Expert tag recognises them as valuable, long standing volunteers with lots of good technical product knowledge.

     

    Licensing issues should really be referred to Adobe Customer Service for a definitive reply.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 1:21 AM   in reply to John Waller

    OK, all - obliged to you for the clarification.

    HOWEVER!

    As they're not Adobe employees, can you please explain to me how it is that one of them wrote back to me directly by email, rather than posting to this forum? - I've set my email address not to appear.

     

     

    M-R,

    Sydney, Oz

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 1:26 AM   in reply to rosdeoz

    *sigh* by joining the forum you recieve e-mails that go straight to your normal e-mail account without anyone seeing it. They may have Private messaged you so it looked different. I didn't say they couldn't be part of adobe I am just saying thats not how that ranking system works. Sure some adobe employees may lurk the forums (I am sure they do) but I doubt they would invade privacy by  bypassing your preferences and e-mailing you straight from their own e-mail account. The thing on the side with pictures is a list of people that are very helpful in the community and a lot of them are ACE certified.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 1:32 AM   in reply to the_missing_link

    You don't get what I mean: the email arrived in my Inbox, but was never seen here in the forum.

     

    M-R

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 1:47 AM   in reply to rosdeoz

    Thats the beauty of Private Messages. They don't appear for the world to see their private. Here is the link to the private message section of this site. http://forums.adobe.com/pm.jspa

     

     

    Goodnight.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 11:21 AM   in reply to Tim629

    if a friend comes up to me and asks me to create a website for him for a group he created I cannot do it because it would be commerical work?

     

    Does anyone know the price to upgrade to commerical from the student?

    It depends where you live. According to the Student Version FAQ, you can use it for commercial purposes if you are in North America. If you live elsewhere, you're out of luck:

    Do the Student Editions have restricted functionality?

           

    Adobe Student Editions give the end user all the features and functionality of the commercial versions. The software may be used only on a privately owned computer, and the end user may not transfer or resell ownership of the Adobe Student Edition license.

           

    Is there a time limit on using the Student Editions?

         

    No, there is no time limit on using the Student Editions.

           

    Can a Student Edition also be used for commercial purposes?

           

    In North America, Student Edition software can be used for commercial purposes. Outside North America, Student Edition software is for noncommercial purposes only.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 12:22 PM   in reply to Tim629

    The student FAQ for North America says this:

    The software may be used only on a privately owned computer

    It doesn't say you must be the owner of the machine. However, it goes on to say:

    the end user may not transfer or resell ownership of the Adobe Student Edition license

    In other words, the student who gets the licence is the only one allowed to use the software. So, it could be on your family computer, but you're the only one allowed to use the Adobe software.

     

    Perhaps most importantly:

    A Student Edition can be used on only one computer. This is ensured through a product activation procedure, which is performed online.

    You need to make sure that you install it on a computer that's going to be available to you at all times. Unlike a full retail licence, you cannot install it on two computers (many people have one version on a desktop and the other on a laptop). So, choose where you install it with care. Technically, you can put it on a computer in a friend's house, but your friend can't use it. More importantly, neither can you unless you go round to the friend's house.

     

    You can also buy only one copy. Sure, there are restrictions, but it's a pretty good deal when you consider the cost of the full retail version - and that students outside North America are not allowed to use it for paying projects.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 1:18 PM   in reply to Tim629

    No.  Yes.  Respectively.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 3:08 PM   in reply to Tim629

    Sailorcancer wrote:

     

    So I could only put it on one computer.  So I cannot put it on say my desktop and laptop?

    The terms of the licence say this: "A Student Edition can be used on only one computer." One computer means precisely that: ONE computer.

    What about partitions?  Currently I have two harddrives on one system.  One runs XP and the other runs the Windows 7 beta.  Technically they are both on one machine so can I install it to both harddrives?

    You would need to ask Adobe technical support about that. The licence says you can't "transfer or resell ownership of the Adobe Student Edition license." That seems to suggest that only one person can use it.

     

    I have a full retail licence (not a student one), and Dreamweaver lets me use two separate user accounts on the same machine (they're both me, but the computer doesn't know that). Since my student days were over many moons ago, I have no way of testing whether Dreamweaver can be used on separate partitions. The sensible thing to do is to install it on the partition that you use most. However, you should be aware that Windows 7 is still a beta. No Adobe software is guaranteed to run on it (it probably does, but there's no guarantee).

     

    To avoid any doubt, this is a user-to-user forum. The information provided by me (or anyone else so far in this thread) does NOT come from Adobe employees. We have provided you in good faith with what we believe to be the correct information as it currently stands. If you have any further questions about the terms of the student licence, you should contact Adobe directly.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:45 PM   in reply to Tim629

    Two partitions would count a two installations = two computers. That's how activation would recognise it. So, no, under the terms of the licence you have to choose one of those partitions.

     
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    Apr 18, 2009 8:55 PM   in reply to rosdeoz

    I sent you a test private message ysterday... di it appear in your Inbox?

     

    JJ

     
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    Apr 19, 2009 12:04 AM   in reply to Tim629

    Thats a very good question and something that can be easily forgotten. When you are ready to get rid of your beta just go into one of your adobe programs and go to help on the top bar and then from the drop down menu hit deactivate.

     
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    Apr 19, 2009 2:10 AM   in reply to the_missing_link

    Yes, Help > Deactivate is the best way to move your software from one computer to another. Of course, it's not always possible. If you suffer a catastrophic hard disk crash or your computer is stolen, you can't deactivate. In those circumstances, you can do it through Adobe customer support (as long as you have registered your copy). But I'm told it's a much more complex process. Using Help > Deactivate usually takes less than a minute, but you must be connected to the internet at the time.

     
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    Apr 19, 2009 2:34 AM   in reply to Tim629

    You're a student. Do what students always do: experiment. If it works, fine. If it doesn't, you've found out the limitation of your licence.

     

    Of course, you could deactivate and reactivate. I have no idea if Adobe places a limit on the number of times you can do so, but if you're constantly activating and deactivating, Adobe might view it as suspicious activity and suspend the licence.

     

    If you don't want the hassle, just buy the full retail package.

     
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    Apr 19, 2009 6:30 PM   in reply to David_Powers

    I had a catastrophic hard drive crash and it wasn't that hard getting adobe

    to fix the deactivation problem. I do not reccomend calling adobe about the

    problem when I attempted to do it that way I got nowhere (though it was the

    weekend). If you go onto their live chat they can decrypt your registration

    serial number and then help you. Via internet chat it takes less than 5

    minutes well at least for me it did.

     
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    Apr 20, 2009 12:05 PM   in reply to the_missing_link

    I do not reccomend calling adobe about the

    problem when I attempted to do it that way I got nowhere (though it was the

    weekend).

    Yes, that's what I had in mind. Doing activation by phone is reported to be a major hassle.

    If you go onto their live chat they can decrypt your registration

    serial number and then help you. Via internet chat it takes less than 5

    minutes well at least for me it did.

    That's useful to know.

     
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    Mar 3, 2010 8:48 PM   in reply to Tim629

    You can install on two computers (a desktop and laptop.

     

    How many computers can I use a Student Edition on?

    A Student Edition license can be installed on up to two computers (for example, a desktop and laptop). Activation ensures that no more than two computers can have the same serial number. http://www.adobe.com/education/students/studentedition/faq.html

     
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    Mar 3, 2010 10:44 PM   in reply to the_missing_link

    This is very good information, thanks for sharing, I had no idea that you could save a lot of money from buying student editions. I bought a full version of CS3 although I use maybe just 10% of all its functionalities.

     

    I would have saved a lot of money if I had read your post earlier, but nevertheless, it is definitely something I will look into the future.

     

    Thanks again.

     
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