I am going to disagree with the rinter I do not think it is reasonable for them to expect you to alter your standards that are received world wide as being in fine shape.

I have an agency in the UK I am based in New York they insist that the standard is Adobe RGB 1998 as just about everyone else.

This is a standard that a printer can judge their profile by and make the necessary adjustments to and probably simply bey dropping the file into a scripted folder.

All they need to know it is that as Adobe RGB it looks like this when we convert to our profile we have to adjust it to look like that you might have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the script but that is their job your job is to take photographs.

Let them fix their printer drivers to be more consistent with the rest of the industry.

The idea they are coming up with a profile you have to match their printer is ridiculous let their drivers match the industry standard.

And Xerox no less, since when hasn't it been green?

BTW Todie what are you doing on the computer? You should be on to other things!

I guess I will have to help you. Should I take some portraits of your young friend?

Not really you can have it…

I don't think the toner world will ever make it.

Have fun!

It is not a good idea for the printers and the techs to lay the 

responsibility of the shortcomings of the technology and the product 

they are responsible for on the head of the photographer.

Let them provide a stable and standardized work flow and specs that 

everyone can follow. You give them a proof and this nonsense about 

well this is off and that is off. There are millions of computers all 

over the place doing this same kind of work and they re standardized 

to Adobe RGB 1998. Then this idea that is has be to converted to  

their CMYK profile is nonsense.

If they cannot calibrate their monitors to be able to consistently 

convert Adobe RGB 1998 to their cmyk profile that is their problem let 

them go out of business. And Xerox is going to do that unless they 

change their ways. Their printers never work well for more the 3 

months anyway.

It is their responsibility. BTW the OP should know Todie wrks on the 

printer side os it not two sided there as it may seem.

The production people are always geared to blame the customer.

you are delusional

I was at a table

you passed by

I said hi wade

there was an introduction and some small talk

good bye!

you hate the name Heather?

that's funny

is that because you know/don't know what it means, or because you can't control your feelings?

how can you not like this? : )

http://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/090202/15/49878008cb81d.jpg

bye wade!

"My displays are calibrated, my printers profiled, and I include an inkjet print with every file. Lately a client of mine is having trouble with a new (to them) company's output on a Zerox iGen press. It's "very green". The printing company is preparing a profile for me to softproof my editing in Photoshop; expecting a file tailored to their printer.

I'm wondering if this is a reasonable request from the printers.

Is it my responsibility to change what I feel is a viable file and (horrors) learn new things I'm not interested in?"

Sending a hard copy is always a good idea, but if your inkjet print is from a fairly wide gamut RGB file, it can still be problematic although the basic color balance should be okay as long as the printer has a good internal profile.

You say that the printer is "preparing" a profile? What does that mean? How are they doing that? When you send them an RGB file, how ARE they converting it for their Xerox printer? While it's true that the toner based printers shift more than offset inks, they are a lot better than they used to be, and as long as they are calibrated a couple times a day, you should be pretty good. A green cast when they are doing the conversion puts the responsiblity pretty solidly at their doorstep.

Printers, historically, are probably the worst places to get a good profile from. Most don't have a clue about the correct use of profile, let alone being capable of making them. That you now have a printer supplied profile that doesn't seem to reflect their printing conditions is no big surprise. What exuse does the printer have for delivering greenish output? What can you glean from the profile they sent you?

My view is that if you are going to take the responsibility of delivering files for print, they better be the right files for that particular printer and you probably should think about investing in Profilemaker and actually learn how to use it. Guessing isn't good enough and sending RGB is a recipe for disaster - unless you have very specific instructions otherwise.