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Photoshop Canvas improvement idea

Mar 3, 2009 10:09 PM

Hi guys,

not sure if i'm posting this in the right area as it's more of a feature request. I just wanted to see what other pro users thought of it.

many a time i am trying to make a mish-mash to get some ideas flowing quickly. ok, I have a 120 x 400 document (banner or something)....and i am trying to play with some fonts or some pasted image that has to fit the height only. so if i scale the image/font up, it stretches far out to the right of the doc (about 50% or more for example) and is cut off.

now, to make the doc the right size for the *idea*, i have to resize the canvas with a little guess work to obtain the best fit and then fix the background, etc. if I change my mind...I have to do it all again, etc, etc

wouldn't it be nice, if while we're scaling like this (ctrl+T), (or even ctrl+click an item in the layers palette to select it) to have a "Resize Canvas to selected" ???

illustrator cs4 *sort* of has it (ability to change size visualy) with the artboards (its a great feature)....but this right-click feature added to both photoshop and illustrator would make them so much faster to work with. especially when you want the canvas to match exactly or trying ideas on the fly

just my 2 cents.
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    Mar 4, 2009 12:56 AM
    Have you tried the "Reveal All" command?
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    May 12, 2009 2:12 AM

    (Peter_Lancaster) wrote:

     

    just on a slightly different subject...

    I've been doing a lot of pixel work lately and noticed that the grid is very inaccurate when it comes to drawing marquees, etc

    this is set to a 1 pixel grid with 2 divisions (I was zoomed in as far as possible and aiming for the main grid...but it keeps jumping about 2.3 pixels up and 1.6 pixels to the left +/-)
    http://s5.tinypic.com/dgng2f.jpg

    it happens no matter what I do to the snap preferences.

    anyone else got this issue?

    (photoshop cs4 x64 (and x32) on vista)

    I have this exact problem too. makes pixel work close to impossible! Is there a fix coming for this?

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    May 12, 2009 3:41 AM

    You can do it in 2 steps within Corel PHOTO-PAINT:

     

    1. Ctrl+C to copy the text layer.
    2. File >> New From Clipboard.

     

    Yet another reason my File >> New From Clipboard request should be added.

     

    Please support the request here: File >> New From Clipboard.

     

    Also, you can't copy layers in Photoshop for this File >> New From Clipboard to be of any use, so that's a separate feature request that I've made here: Layers: Copy, Cut and Paste.

     

    People keep wondering what a practical use for these features would be, but when I read your request I was thinking, "Oh man! This is super easy in Corel PHOTO-PAINT!"

     

    Intuitive...

     

    peter.jpg

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    May 12, 2009 4:12 AM

    WILL YOU GET LOST JED! If I need to be taught about Corel PHOTO-PAINT I'll go to their forum!

     

    Jesus!

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    May 12, 2009 4:48 AM

    D Fosse wrote:

     

    WILL YOU GET LOST JED! If I need to be taught about Corel PHOTO-PAINT I'll go to their forum!

     

    Jesus!

     

    Hmm... well, soon as the day comes that Photoshop can do everything that PHOTO-PAINT can? Then I'll get lost.

     

    Until then... nice to meet you D Fosse.

     

    Besides, I'm not attempting to "teach" anyone PHOTO-PAINT, but get certain feature requests implemented into Photoshop that would be useful.

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    May 12, 2009 4:56 AM

    Well then submit your ****** feature requests where they belong and stop spamming this forum.

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    May 12, 2009 5:05 AM

    what he means is that you should go here http://www.adobe.com/go/wish to submit your feature requests and stop flooding the general forums with them

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    May 12, 2009 5:16 AM

    Yes. That's what I mean.

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    May 12, 2009 5:20 AM

    D Fosse wrote:

     

    Well then submit your ****** feature requests where they belong and stop spamming this forum.

     

    My "feature request" is in the feature request forum, referenced here as it is applicable to this discussion.

     

    I don't see the problem.

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    May 12, 2009 5:31 AM

    you seem to forget that it's not us you need to convice that your feature request has any merit, take them up with Adobe. Also, what discussion? this is a 2 month old thread

     

     

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    May 12, 2009 9:10 AM

    This forum calls each thread a discussion (e.g. Start a New Discussion).

     

    That's why I said, "this discussion."

     

    And apparently it is you guys I need to convince that these are "valid" feature requests because it's you guys who keep bashing on them. And I would imagine that Adobe takes that into consideration.

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    May 12, 2009 9:44 AM

    sfjedi wrote:

     

    This forum calls each thread a discussion (e.g. Start a New Discussion).

     

    That's why I said, "this discussion."

     

    And apparently it is you guys I need to convince that these are "valid" feature requests because it's you guys who keep bashing on them. And I would imagine that Adobe takes that into consideration.

     

     

    We don't keep bashing if we disagree.


    And if we do, ONCE IS ENOUGH ALREADY!

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    May 12, 2009 10:00 AM

    You, specifically, don't.

     

    But if people are arguing about it then I feel I haven't made a good enough argument; thus, I try again.

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    May 13, 2009 5:37 PM

    TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC: Jed, stop spamming. End of story! It doesn't help anyone trying to find soloutions within photoshop, etc. (although I do agree with photoshop "hopefully" having this feature in the future, as the current "reveal all" isn't exactly any use in a production environment at all...its like a tool thats 80% finished IMHO)

     

    back to discussion:

     

    I was wondering what was happening. there is actually a difference when you turn on pixel grid and turn on the normal grid set to: "gridline every 1 pixel" (subdivisions 1). logically, you would think that this gives the same measurements as pixel grid. but it doesn't. the divisions are not all half-way as previoiusly pointed out, but vary...comparing the pixel grid to the standard gird at the setting above, theres a great deal of varying distances such as 1px, 0.20, 0.15, 0.5, 0.75, 0.15 (and pretty much everything inbetween).

     

    so logically, the standard gird set to pixels should be the same right? not from what i see at least. :/

     

    peters original posted image:

    http://s5.tinypic.com/dgng2f.jpg

    he has both of the grids on, and set to single pixel as far as i can tell. so why the big mis-alignment on the left side of the marquee? :/

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    May 13, 2009 6:41 PM

    (Peter_Lancaster) wrote:

     

    wouldn't it be nice, if while we're scaling like this (ctrl+T), (or even ctrl+click an item in the layers palette to select it) to have a "Resize Canvas to selected" ???

     

    You can. Just hit Image >> Crop. Not very intuitive, but it gets the job done by cropping to your selection. Unless, of course, you wanted to achieve this WHILE scaling? I don't see this happening because it hasn't even performed the anti-aliasing on the text yet.

     

    There should be some better cropping options though. In Corel PHOTO-PAINT, the Image >> Crop command actually opens up into additional menu commands:

     

    1. Crop to Mask
    2. Crop Border Color...
    3. Expand
    4. Crop Overlay

     

    I've never really used anything but Crop to Mask, but you can see that there are additional cropping options that can be useful for some people.

     

    In Photoshop though, they call it a Selection, so it would be Image >> Crop >> Crop to Selection.

     

    Something like that.

     

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    May 13, 2009 7:21 PM

    man your posts smell of spam! O_o

     

    crop is in no way the same thing as "resize canvas" as Peter was originally suggesting. resizing the canvas is non-destructive to the psd contents and its layers in contrast to "cropping" which removes everything outside of the document bounds (in photoshop, since we are on the ADOBE forums!!!...hint hint Jed).

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    May 13, 2009 9:50 PM

    Thali-Hoo wrote:

     

    crop is in no way the same thing as "resize canvas" as Peter was originally suggesting. resizing the canvas is non-destructive to the psd contents and its layers in contrast to "cropping" which removes everything outside of the document bounds (in photoshop, since we are on the ADOBE forums!!!...hint hint Jed).

     

    Peter didn't say ANYTHING about wanting a non-destructive way of doing it. In fact, he didn't really say much at all about the other content on the page – just the text overflowing the document.

     

    If that's the case, he can:

     

    1. Create a new document.
    2. Paste the text into the new document.
    3. Image >> Crop.
    4. Drag+drop the other layers from the original document into the new one.

     

    Then the layer information will be in tact, at least. I guess he'd still have to line up the content though. That might be a problem, depending on what he's doing. It might work for his particular scenario though.

     

    In Corel PHOTO-PAINT...

     

    Just kidding...

     

    Cropping destroys other layer information in PP as well, no matter what method is used.

     

    I'm just trying to help a brother out guys, sheesh! Trying to come up with solutions for him here. Why do you get so offended at at the sheer mention of Corel PHOTO-PAINT? Even if it's intended to provide feature request ideas for Adobe?

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    May 13, 2009 10:22 PM

    LOL...I thought you were off again!

     

    " ...I'm thinking more of just one object on a layer in particular that I want to quickly size the document to..."

    ok, well from that I'm assuming he meant non-destructively, otherwise why not just image > crop (with or without a hotkey)

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    May 13, 2009 10:53 PM

    Touché

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    May 14, 2009 12:41 AM

    Thali-Hoo wrote:

     

    man your posts smell of spam! O_o

     

    crop is in no way the same thing as "resize canvas" as Peter was originally suggesting. resizing the canvas is non-destructive to the psd contents and its layers in contrast to "cropping" which removes everything outside of the document bounds (in photoshop, since we are on the ADOBE forums!!!...hint hint Jed).

    correction, resizing (shrinking) the canvas is destructive to the Background layer only and cropping is only deleting anything outside the crop bounds when Cropped Area is set to Delete in the Options bar

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    May 14, 2009 12:52 AM

    Zeno Bokor wrote:

     

    cropping is only deleting anything outside the crop bounds when Cropped Area is set to Delete in the Options bar

     

    In the options bar? You mean like the property bar you see when the crop tool is selected? I don't see this "Cropped Area" option here at all. Am I looking in the wrong place? CS4 Extended.

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    May 14, 2009 12:54 AM

    http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS3021052C-107A-42bd-B64E-D 658875592AF.html

    I prefer Options bar because Control Panel is very misleading

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    May 14, 2009 1:24 AM

    options_bar.gif

    Still don't see where I can set Cropped Area to delete. This is a screenshot of my options bar.

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    May 14, 2009 1:30 AM

    drag a crop boundary with it and check again. Note that you can't select Hide if all you have is the Background layer because that one always has it's pixels deleted when using the Crop Tool or Image->Canvas Size

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    May 14, 2009 2:39 AM

    Ah, now I feel stupid.

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    May 28, 2009 4:52 PM

    If I understand the question, any time you cut or copy anything in PShop, if you choose File | New, the file size will be the size of the selection, and you can paste it in. It's almost identical to the PhotoPaint New from Clipboard, except that you have to do a Ctrl (Cmd?) V. Easy as pie

    HTH

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    Oct 29, 2009 10:52 AM

    Fireworks has this feature, and very handy it is too:

     

         Trim canvas: [ctrl]+[alt]+[t] will crop the canvas to fit the contents

     

         Fit canvas: [ctrl]+[alt]+[f] will expand the canvas to fit the contents

     

    It would be good if this feature were available in Photoshop too.

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    Oct 29, 2009 12:15 PM

    Photoshop also has those, Image->Trim and Image->Reveal All

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