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Renumber artboards

Nov 19, 2008 6:29 AM

Is it possible to renumber the artboards manually? I want to make an small animation and need a particular sequence.
 
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    Nov 19, 2008 12:03 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I don't think so, unfortunately. You have four artboards - 1, 2, 3, 4 - and you want to swap 2 and 3. You should be able to just change the artboard numbers, but can't. You have to manually move either the artboards or the content of the artboards. There is a button which locks an artboard's contents to that artboard, so that when you move the artboard all the stuff on it moves along with it.
     
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    Nov 19, 2008 3:42 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Naming and numbering art boards is a no brainer, but art boards are new. Maybe next time or better yet anupdate to test it!
     
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    Nov 20, 2008 6:35 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I thinkthis is something they did not have time to institue probably!

    How would youenvision this feature working?

    What would be best for you, let's compare notes.
     
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    Nov 27, 2008 1:32 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I think the artboards should not have fixed numbers, but should be numbered according to their position on the canvas.

    Workaround for renumbering artboards:

    Keep your artboards arranged in a single row.

    When you need to renumber them:

    1. Unlock all layers. (Option-drag in step 2 only copies unlocked objects.)

    2. Activate the Artboard Tool, then option-drag the artboards, one at a time, from the original row to a new row in the newly desired order. That is, first option-drag the artboard you want to be the new number 1, then the new number 2, etc.

    3. After you've created a second row in the desired order, delete the entire original row.
     
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    Nov 27, 2008 2:10 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I think the artboards should not have fixed numbers, but should be numbered according to their position on the canvas.

    I don't agree. What about Hebrew, Arabic, or other languages that read right to left? Also, I don't always think of multiple artboards as multiple pages. Sometimes I want them numbered top to bottom. What I really want is a way to customize the order. Like you can set a tab order for fields in an electronic form.

    :) Mordy
     
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    Nov 27, 2008 4:30 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I don't agree either because they are not pages they are artboarts and as such have more use then do pages.

    I would like to be able to perhaps set a name and have a renumber command but if one needs artboard two to be next to artboard ten and it renumber it you would not be able to keep track of your atboards because the would have changed position and number.

    Also if you were able to name your artboards which I think is more useful and you had a flower Artboard that had a number 2 assigned to it and then you duplicated that art board and art and it was now Flower artboard number 6 then you do not have to worry about them getting mixed up if you had to arrange it so Flower 6 was in the position where Flower 2 was and that now Flower 2 has become Flower 3 which did not exist before.

    It would be helpful true for some if you could arrange your artboards in a sequence that you want and then select a command to renumber the artboards.

    That could be a part of the artboard naming feature if they create such a feature.

    But changing the number when you move an artboard is out of the question.

    What you want is to work in a program called InDesign.

    However I would go along withe a feature that would give the user the option if it did not interfere with the development of a naming and renumbering feature.

    I think I missed the turkey?
     
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    Nov 28, 2008 8:00 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    There's a whole raft of things that need to be done to make the multiple artboard concept robust. For example, currently, when you create new document you get a chance to specify the number of artboards and their arrangement. But there's no way to get back to this dialog to add artboards or alter the arrangement.
     
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    Nov 28, 2008 8:02 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I think you do not understand what problems that might cause once the user does this and does not understand they cannot go back and then they reopen the file and start looking for the number they had for the artboard with a certain art on it an they now can no longer find it, they are going to start screaming bloody murder.

    This has to be thought out better then just renumber the art boards but reordering the pages numbers automatically.

    The users has to make a definitive decision to do so.

    Just think about it?

    i understand you think well it's a no brainer but that is not the case this matter has been discussed and there are problems with this scenario you are not thinking about.

    The whole point of being able to move the artboards with the content is so you have maximum flexibility, once you have the automatic renumbering you loose that ability even though you can sort of physically move the boards because you loose the number of the board.

    This has to be done by a command to renumber the artboards and a warning are you sure that you want to do this and that if you do you loose all previous numbers and once save it cannot be undone.

    I say the ability to renumber and rename a board is a good one because that is both artboard and art specific, you know which board you have renumbered!

    I am against a auto renumbering system, even as an option it is a dangerous move.
     
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    Dec 7, 2008 4:18 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    here is a complex workaround for renumbering artboard if you really want to do it.

    1. Use the Rectangle tool to draw rectangle that cover the artboard size of all of your artboard except the one that you want to be the first. Using smart guide it will snap to the artboard. It's IMPORTANT to draw them in the order you want your artboard to be re-order.
    2. Now using the Artboard tool, delete all artboard except the one you did not draw a rectangle over.
    3. Select all the rectangles from step 1. and choose Object > Convert to Artboards
     
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    Dec 7, 2008 6:00 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Wonderful work around.
     
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    Dec 10, 2008 4:40 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    WOW! JC, you just opened up a new world for me! I had not noticed that command before. I always had a problem with adding additional artboards to an existing document and having them arranged a certain way. Now I realize I can just create rectangles, move them exactly where I want, arrange them, and convert them to artboards. THANK YOU!
     
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    Dec 10, 2008 5:04 PM   in reply to are18
    Arthur, itÕs a pleasure to make you feel good!
     
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    Dec 10, 2008 9:57 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Just remember Arthur I taught JC everything he knows! Or was it everything I know?!
     
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    Dec 11, 2008 11:18 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    In that case, I also thank you Wade :)
     
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    Dec 11, 2008 1:47 PM   in reply to (MlissL)
    You're Welcome! LOL!
     
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    Apr 2, 2009 12:21 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Wow, JC! That's a great workaround! I just used it to reorder a (ähem) Doc with to artboards ; )
     
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    Apr 3, 2009 8:40 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    I have never dared to ask until now (after a few beers :-)), but what is the point of multiple artboards? If you use 1 artboard and have it big enough, with page tiling set as you want it, can you do something with multiple artboards that you couldn't do before? Are multiple artboards really necessary? What do you gain by them? They don't even seem to have independent X/Y axes, so you can't use Cmd-F to paste in place between artboards. Isn't this just a sort of Freehand thingummy that hasn't been properly implemented in Illy?
     
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    Apr 3, 2009 8:56 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    It keeps the whining ex-freehand users a bit quieter.
     
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    Apr 3, 2009 9:15 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Reckon you've hit the thingummy on the other thingummy :-)
    At least it's good to know that there's someone out there who's in touch with a semblance of reality.
     
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    Apr 3, 2009 9:43 AM   in reply to (MlissL)
    Not quiet enough, but it's a start.

    "I want Illustrator to be exactly like FreeHand and anyone who disagrees with me is a moron." says the ex-Freehand user.

    "Why did Macromedia drop all support for FreeHand and disband the development team years ago?" asks everyone else.
     
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    May 22, 2009 5:41 PM   in reply to (MlissL)

    The work around mentioned before is a great idea, but there is one problem, the "art board navigator" docked at the bottom left hand corner of the entire app. Each number is place based on the prior setting (or original numbering of the art board), and no matter how much time you change the arrangement, art board 1 will be display in the "art board navigator" as 1. Unfortunately

     
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    May 23, 2009 6:05 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn
    If you use 1 artboard and have it big enough, with page tiling set as you want it, can you do something with multiple artboards that you couldn't do before?

     

    For just a couple of obvious things, multiple Artboards can be different sizes and can be freely re-arranged.

     

    Your blanket insults of anyone who favors this long-needed feature (and whom also happens to have enjoyed its benefits in FreeHand) just displays your own ignorance of the issue.

     

    Prior to CS4, Illustrator was the only drawing program among its long-time competitors incapable of page 2. It was a ridiculous limitation.

     

    JET

     
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    May 23, 2009 8:28 AM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    steve fairbairn wrote:

     

    I have never dared to ask until now (after a few beers :-)), but what is the point of multiple artboards? If you use 1 artboard and have it big enough, with page tiling set as you want it, can you do something with multiple artboards that you couldn't do before? Are multiple artboards really necessary? What do you gain by them? They don't even seem to have independent X/Y axes, so you can't use Cmd-F to paste in place between artboards. Isn't this just a sort of Freehand thingummy that hasn't been properly implemented in Illy?

    It is not fully implemented but there is a feature request to be able to name the artboards for instance, tiling was something that most users that came to the forum did not understand and we continually had to explain it to them and many still could not get it to properly work, there was no bleed for tiled pages, you could not print a specific tile as you can with artboards, you could not print a specific range or place a specific tile in say ID there are lots of advantages already implemented, besides multiple size artboards which only happened in tiling is the page size was odd and did not divide accordingly.

     

    There may be some features that would be nice to have but keep in mind artboards are not pages, to think of them as pages is not quite the right approach although there will eventually be a feature I assume to make artboard pages if one desired but that would mean all artboards would be restricted to the same size, unless of course Adobe does something really innovated and allow you to have custom page inserts.

     

    Artboards are a bit like FreeHand but not the same by any means and it has come along way from CS3 and hopefully the same will happen in CS5.

     

    I agree with James on the notion of insulting FreeHand users over this issue it is out of place and it is a very excellent feature and much needed for many users though perhaps not for all users.

     
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    Jul 16, 2009 9:12 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    You can save a file as a multi page pdf and have each artboard as a separate page. That's got to be a good thing.

    And also export separate artboards to various formats (swf) - good for animation

     
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    Mar 4, 2010 8:22 AM   in reply to RogerPaine

    Just make the numbers on the top left corner editable so one can renumber the artboards as s/he pleases. Simple and straightforward solution that should be a no brainer to code. Is it really necessary to wait for a new version of Illustrator to have this fixed? Should be implemented through an update asap.

     

    I don't see why it is so hard to admit that, despite Freehand having been abandoned quite a long time before Adobe decided to terminate it, it had pretty intuitive features that Adobe should simply stick to copy. By the way, give me back paste inside while you're at it.

     
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    Mar 17, 2010 3:24 PM   in reply to (MlissL)

    The biggest problem I find with the artboard numbering is when I export as PDF. I like to build various multi page UI design docs within Illustrator, then export to show clients. Well, you can't control the page numbering if you decide to re-arrange pages, which always happens. Say you decide to make a TOC, or add a page in-between, etc. Out of luck. Artboards keep the number they were created as.

     

    It seems the most obvious UI change should be that the pages re-number themselves according to how you arrange them. This is how other apps work. I actually thought it was a convention. Adobe even does it for inDesign. It's silly to not let these pages self-adjust in this way.

     
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    Mar 17, 2010 4:20 PM   in reply to Alan Luckow

    Absolutely, I underline every single word you wrote!

     
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    Mar 17, 2010 5:44 PM   in reply to maccoutinho

    Yay for renumberable artboards - currently I get around it by reshuffling them in acrobat but that only works for rearranging the order of the pdf pages; doesn't help in ai - but then they have to hold back something for the next upgrade

     
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    Mar 18, 2010 6:28 AM   in reply to RogerPaine

    Multi Page from Hot Door has a very good plug-in for creating multiple pages in Illustrator versions before CS4. They cleverly used layers to accomplish this.

     

    Now they have a new version, upgraded to AI CS4, but no mention if they use artboards instead of layers! I was hoping they would change the basis of Multi Page operation, but I guess they haven't yet. If they did, then I would hazard a guess that they had found a way to renumber artboards.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 8:43 AM   in reply to (_simon)

    ah maybe because Adobe bought them out?

     

    1. Re-order artboards through the artboards panel, similar to InDesign
    2. Option to name artboards
    3. Option to save all artboards for web (just for proofing purposes as opposed to saving PDFs)
    4. Paste in place across artboards (at least artboards of the same size, or dependent on the 0 point of the axis)
     
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    Apr 9, 2010 10:13 AM   in reply to billaddison

    Last time I looked they were still in business selling Multipage and CADtools.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 10:27 AM   in reply to MWHebert

    To be clear, I was replying to this comment:

    _simon wrote:

    Not quiet enough, but it's a start.

    "I want Illustrator to be exactly like FreeHand and anyone who disagrees with me is a moron." says the ex-Freehand user.

    "Why did Macromedia drop all support for FreeHand and disband the development team years ago?" asks everyone else.

     

    And obviously the reason Macromedia "dropped support" for Freehand is because Macromedia was completely bought out by Adobe right.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 2:53 PM   in reply to billaddison

    Yeah, hard to follow the thread sometimes. Thanks.

     
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    Apr 9, 2010 3:07 PM   in reply to MWHebert

    I gave up on this whole problem and bought Multipage. It really does add a lot of functionality.

     
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    Oct 31, 2011 3:02 PM   in reply to (MlissL)

    There's a nice Ruby script that makes renumbering artboards a breeze. You will just need to install Ruby, download the relevant ruby script, and then type in the terminal window "Ruby "renumber artboards.rb" "

     

    http://thejoyofappscript.com/2009/12/illustrator-renumber-artboards/

     
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    Nov 2, 2011 12:29 PM   in reply to (MlissL)

    Just open the Artboards panel (Window>Artboards) and move the numbers up or down, rename them, whatever. Easy Peasy.

     
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    Nov 2, 2011 1:49 PM   in reply to SmartGraphicArt

    This is an old thread CS5 was n it available at that time so it was not so easy peas!

     
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