John,

It looks good to me. Another big THANK YOU. As one who still has his install discs from PS 2.5 (think that they were on 3.5" diskettes), and his PageMaker and Freehand (these were on 5.25" floppies, I understand the need to hold on to stuff like this. Now, finding all of these might be a bit of an issue, but I know that they are in my office someplace. The S/N's are also clearly written on these - though I think I was using Latin way back then. Now, with the DVD's for installation and Adobe's little cases, it's a bit easier to file things for rapid retrieval. Way-back, not so easy, but then I do still have those monster boxes, that the manuals (remember those?) and the diskettes came in - up on a dusty shelf.

Good work and I think that it would make a great FAQ. Then, if only everyone reads it BEFORE that fateful day.

Luckily, on this forum, I hardly see anyone asking for cracks, etc. Not so on most of the NNTP new groups, even outside the hierarchy of the alt groups. Still, I do wonder about the derivation of some of the copies of the software, that folk are using, but that's not for me to judge.

Waitn' on the restoration of the FAQ. I also think that Harm's equipment/software guides need to go there too, plus his "How to ask a question and get help."

Hunt

I've not seen that with most Adobe software, but about a year +/- ago, PS was pirated. From the details that I recall, some group in Singapore was doing a fully bogus package, with full paperwork, packaging, etc. These were distributed to legit resellers around the globe. Everything checked out, except that the DVD's (or maybe the box) had "Printed in Singapore," on them. Many resellers were stung. Problems existed for some time. This was possibly near the end of the run of CS3, but could have been at the introduction of CS4. Memory clouds on the fine details. One clue for the PS pirated versions was that F1 did not function - at all. Fortunately, many of that forum's regulars starting picking up on the likely problems. It didn't take too many quesitons, before a lot of them had the problem nailed for the OP's. Now, I do not recall reading of any prosecutions, etc., even in the Financial Times of London, or the Wall Street Journal. Maybe some of the software trade pubs covered it, but I'd guess that a lot of legit resellers took major heat - they thought that they'd purchased and re-sold legit copies of PS. Guess that I've always been lucky, but then 99% of my Adobe purchases come directly from Adobe, even if CDW, or someone else has it for a few $'s less.

I also have never done a trial of anything Adobe, and have never bought the on-line version of any programs. I'll spring for the full, boxed version, in hopes that there might be a manual in that box.

I'm starting to see a shift in the mindset, or maybe it's just an influx of people, who were of this mind and have just arrived in these fora. Many feel that if they wish to create something, buying a legit copy of software is just not gonna' happen. It's about their budget and their "art." Any means justifies their end. I'm just too old for that BS. To me, Adobe isn't "the man." They are a company that has supported me for decades, and if they fail, then I am likely to fail, or at least not benefit from future advancements. It does not take an advanced degree in economics, or finance from Wharton to figure this out - that's my wife. Still, without her help, I can understand the economics of corporations, like Adobe. It really is not difficult.

Hunt

PS please keep up the good work that you do in so many fora!

Ah, SyQuest. I started with the 22's, went to the 44's, then the 88's.About then, they introduced the 270's, but those never took off that well. The Iomega ZIP's finally killed them. Along the way, I moved up to the SyJet 1GB disks, added the ZIP's and ZIP-100's, plus the LS-120's, that should have beaten the ZIP's, but never did - kind of a Beta vs VHS thing.

I also have about six different versions of basically DLT. Each needed a different machine, and also different software to read the danged things. Though I do have to go deeply into the dusty Hunt Archive of Computer Oddities, and set up some of those older boxes, I can still access all, even the old QC-80 tapes, but I'd have to install PCTools Backup to do that. My first digital scans were done on those tapes, as they were larger than the SyQuest 22's could handle. I had to de-compress the files and un-archive them, then only work on one at a time, as HDD space was still at a major premium back then.

Unfortunately for me, I never did get all of those off of the tapes, and onto more recent, larger, faster media. Back then, I usually had a new workstation, and the older box for the various peripherals. Then, LAN's were neither fast, nor were they common.

One day, I will get very ambitious and set up each computer. It might take several intermediate steps, but I will then recover all those old images, and get them onto a BD-Data, or similar. That, or I will just plunk down the US$13,000 for that Hassy Flex Scanner you pointed me to, and re-scan the chromes, provided that I can find them.

Oh, my Quark client (mentioned in the other thread) just sent me a box full of old chromes from ads years ago. She's checking out and moving to the Caribbean to dive and paint - no more clients, and was cleaning out her files. As soon as she gets moved in, we'll go visit, drink rum, play golf, and talk about the "good old days" of graphic arts, photography and the advent of digital - kinda' like some of these recent threads, except for the golf and rum!

Hunt