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1. Bob Levine,

Jul 1, 2009 8:40 AM in reply to miz_nrg

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Not enough info. Are TIF files in bitmap color mode or grayscale? What's the resolution? Do you have high quality display enabled? Are you using the All setting for Send Image Data when printing?

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2. miz_nrg,

Jul 1, 2009 9:38 AM in reply to Bob Levine

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I believe they're all RGB. What color mode is recommended? The resolution is 96 (!). I'm going to see if he can save it at a higher resolution. And yes, both high quality and All are set. Those were the first things I tried.

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3. Be.eM,

Jul 1, 2009 9:39 AM in reply to miz_nrg

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miz_nrg wrote:

I'm working on a label and instruction manual that features a LOT of line art the an engineer created using Pro/E. He sent them to me as TIFF's ...

Pro/E has been able to output to EPS/PostScript for years now, and if the PC in question has Acrobat installed, it also can print to PDF. And these files are vector files, which could be used directly or run through Illustrator :-)

Bernd

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4. Peter Spier,

Jul 1, 2009 9:58 AM in reply to miz_nrg

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These almost sound like screen captures.

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5. miz_nrg,

Jul 1, 2009 10:54 AM in reply to Be.eM

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Thanks, guys. After speaking with the engineer again I was able to determine that these are screenshots made using Snag It. He's now going to go back into Pro/E and output them as eps files. Hopefully that will lead to better looking images.

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6. Kath-H,

Jul 1, 2009 1:51 PM in reply to miz_nrg

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You might be in silk purse/sow's ear territory here.

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7. Be.eM,

Jul 2, 2009 2:37 AM in reply to Kath-H

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Kath-H wrote:

You might be in silk purse/sow's ear territory here.

This is not true, considering what's needed. If you need line art in good (i.e. vector) quality, Pro/E and many other CAD applications are able to provide you with such files. Pro/E exports EPS, as AutoCAD does. These files can be opened and edited in Illustrator easily, and even be used without any editing in lnDesign or other layout apps.

The problem here in this special case seems to be an inexperienced CAD operator, at least as far as DTP requirements are concerned. He obviously didn't know he can export image formats (TIF, JPG, EPS and others), otherwise he wouldn't have used a screenshot tool for this.

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8. Kath-H,

Jul 2, 2009 3:02 AM in reply to Be.eM

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Sure, all I meant was if you're stuck with a low-res screenshot.

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9. Ildhund,

Jul 2, 2009 3:15 AM in reply to Be.eM

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for the expert's rundown on line thickness in CAD output. I've no idea whether it applies to Pro/E, but worth noting nonetheless.

Noel

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10. miz_nrg,

Jul 2, 2009 5:33 AM in reply to Be.eM

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You are absolutely correct, Be.eM. I am dealing with an inexperienced engineer as far as image formating goes. I plan on giving him a quick tutorial later. You should see the crappy logo I keep getting from the other company involved in this project. I don't know what part of Hi-Res Logo they don't understand. So far, what should have been a quick, grab and drop project is turning out to be much more work than anticipated. Grrrrrrr...

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11. Peter Spier,

Jul 2, 2009 5:39 AM in reply to miz_nrg

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Get used to it. Nobody outside the print industry has a clue what your needs are and don't have a clue about the differences in file formats or resolution.

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12. Be.eM,

Jul 2, 2009 6:06 AM in reply to Peter Spier

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P Spier wrote:

Get used to it. Nobody outside the print industry has a clue what your needs are and don't have a clue about the differences in file formats or resolution.

True, although there's an analogy of this topic in 3D, too. 3D CAD is "vector" (resolution independent) in its nature, and all the 3D artists rendering those photorealistic 3D images or animations need polygonalized 3D files, which is the same in 3D as a pixel image derived from a vector drawing in 2D. CAD people don't understand this as well ;-)

This is why I'm doing file conversions myself, and just ask CAD people for file formats they know. But once you know that Pro/E *is* able to export EPS, you can always teach the CAD people something they didn't know yet, and usually they are quite happy with learning something new and useful

Bernd

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13. miz_nrg,

Jul 2, 2009 8:33 AM in reply to Be.eM

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Well, this has been an experience. The engineer is working with Pro/E version 3 which apparently doesn't offer the Export feature. We searched and couldn't find it anywhere. Instead, I had him save the files as .dwg and was able to open them in Illustrator and make the necessary adjustments. I'll be sure to remember this in the future.

Thanks to all for your help/advice!

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14. sergius_intercad,

Dec 19, 2011 9:00 PM in reply to miz_nrg

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Can Adobe Distiller be used for converting all pro/e (3D -2D) files to pdf format?

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15. Peter Spier,

Dec 20, 2011 2:58 AM in reply to sergius_intercad

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Please start a new thread and provide full details about what you need to do.

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16. Jay Chevako,

Dec 20, 2011 1:29 PM in reply to miz_nrg

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You are lucky I work on an engineering magazine, I get screenshots, jpgs, pngs etc all embeded in word documents. Once in a blue moon I can get an engineer to supply me with an original file, or a dwg file, sometimes I can extract vector graphics from their word documents. I redraw what I can, but half the time they send graphics with illegible text.

Jay

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