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    Jul 12, 2009 11:41 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Wade_Zimmerman wrote:

     

    I am not sure what the purpose is or what they think they will gain from this.

     

    Since it is already cleaned up, I cannot see what the posts were.

     

    Most of the time forum spammers do not try to spam the forum users, but search engines - to gain better ranking.  So often we cannot even see the spam links that they post.

     
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  • Jochem van Dieten
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    Jul 13, 2009 3:47 AM   in reply to Pat Willener

    Pat Willener wrote on 2009-07-13 08:42:

    Most of the time forum spammers do not try to spam the forum users, but search engines - to gain better ranking.

     

    I don't understand why Jive doesn't just add rel="nofollow" to all links

    inserted by users to negate any effect on pagerank these links have once

    and for all. Granted, it is hardly the most pressing issue for Jive to

    solve, but it is certainly one of the most trivial ones.

     

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    Jul 13, 2009 2:18 PM   in reply to Buko.

    Someone needs to take away S.D.A.'s ability to post in other forums besides the Forum Comments.

     

    I know it's not his fault, but he continues to post through email (or whatever it is) that creates the repeating bug even after he has been told time and time again to stop.

     
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    Jul 13, 2009 2:53 PM   in reply to S.D.A.

    Yeah, I think Adobe needs to disable that mail posting crap until it's fixed (which, it probably will never be).

     

    S.D.A. wrote:

     

    I guess the 'plonk' script doesn't work to well eh Ramon ? BTW at least get your insult right. I'm a mangy simian/or monkey, defintely not a canine. Now be a good fella and take your meds !

     

    You just love being a douchbag, don't you?

     
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    Jul 14, 2009 11:16 AM   in reply to Buko.

    Well... the SDA problem seems to have stopped for now... And the thread is still alive... What was the magic 'mantra'?

     

    Cheers!

     

    JJ

     
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    Jul 14, 2009 11:55 AM   in reply to JayJhabrix

    Enough abuse reports?

     
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  • Jochem van Dieten
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    Jul 14, 2009 12:47 PM   in reply to JayJhabrix

    JayJhabrix wrote on 2009-07-14 20:16:

    Well... the SDA problem seems to have stopped for now... And the thread is still alive... What was the magic 'mantra'?

     

    First of all, I have no idea what Jive is doing in the background. But

    the magic mantra is pretty trivial.

     

    Jive is running Postfix on their email gateway to route email to the

    different forums they host. That mail gateway has a timeout of 2 days

    (since I asked Jive to lower it to fix another issue

    http://www.jivesoftware.com/jivespace/thread/50601). A timeout lower

    then that is not recommended on a public gateway. So what Jive needs to

    do to work around this issue is set up a private email gateway. The

    easiest way is to set up another instance of Postfix, make sure the

    public gateway delivers it there and from there it goes to the forums.

    Set the private gateway to a maximum queue timeout of 2 hours and no

    email will repeat for more then 2 hours.

    It takes about an hour to set that up and from then on issues will

    repeat at most 6 times.

     

    Jochem

     

     

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    Jul 14, 2009 12:53 PM   in reply to Jochem van Dieten

    Any idea why this happens so often to some people, and rarely or never to others?

     
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    Jul 15, 2009 8:49 AM   in reply to Kath-H

    He never answers that question. So I guess he doesn't.

     
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    Jul 15, 2009 1:07 PM   in reply to Kath-H
     
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    Jul 15, 2009 1:49 PM   in reply to Jochem van Dieten

    Just wondering, Jochem - did you do that on purpose or is your submission of blank posts as random as all the others who manage it? What mail client are you using?

     

    Noel

     
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    Jul 15, 2009 1:56 PM   in reply to Kath-H

    Kath-H wrote :

    Any idea why this happens so often to some people, and rarely or never to others?

     

    I can think of three things. To know for sure, I would need access to

    the log file produced in IncomingMessageQueueProcessor.java:

    https://svn.jivesoftware.com/svn/dev/repos/jive/plugins/advancedemail/ trunk/src/com/jivesoftware/clearspace/plugins/advancedemail/incoming/I ncomingMessageQueueProcessor.java

     

    Incidentally, if you check the change history of that file you will see

    that Jive has added the first logging to try and find this problem on

    March 17th, so before the AdvancedEmail plugin was installed in the

    preview forums.

     

    Jochem

     

     

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    Jul 15, 2009 2:05 PM   in reply to Ildhund

    Ildhund wrote :

    Just wondering, Jochem - did you do that on purpose or is your submission of blank posts as random as all the others who manage it? What mail client are you using?

     

    I am using a new email client so I am running into the same old empty

    posts bug as before: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/414310

     

    Jochem

     

     

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    Jul 15, 2009 3:09 PM   in reply to Jochem van Dieten

    jochemd wrote:

     

    It takes about an hour to set that up and from then on issues will

    repeat at most 6 times.

     

    Jochem

     

     

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    Not to be a ****, but repeating 6 times isn't acceptable either.  It's kinda pointless working on a "fix" if it doesn't even work.  Those jives need to either FIX their bug (I couldn't care less about the technical excuses as a customer/user) or remove the feature entirely if they can't get it to work correctly.  ex. Should MS Word include a feature to save a document in pdf if due to a bug 5% of the time it saves the document under 10 different names, and they can't figure out how to fix it?  Maybe, if Microsoft wants to become the next Jive.

     
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    Jul 15, 2009 10:03 PM   in reply to Buko.

    Why do we need this thread anyway?  Isn't it enough - and easier - just to click on the Report Abuse link?

     
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    Jul 15, 2009 11:18 PM   in reply to Pat Willener

    Except that John C has specifically asked people to use this thread instead, he thinks it's easier to deal with than wading through tons of abuse reports where people are just miffed about what someone said.

     
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    Jul 16, 2009 8:56 AM   in reply to Buko.
     
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    Jul 17, 2009 4:41 PM   in reply to Buko.
     
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    Jul 17, 2009 10:49 PM   in reply to eothailand

    What's inappropriate about a link to a photographer's photography blog in a Photography forum?

     

    Geez!

     
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    Jul 20, 2009 7:54 AM   in reply to Buko.
     
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    Jul 21, 2009 8:17 AM   in reply to Buko.

    Doing it right here!  

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/people/fish54

     
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    Jul 22, 2009 2:24 PM   in reply to S.D.A.

    there apears to be spam in this message: appears to be hawking a competitor pruduct to creat pdf forms in a web brwoser:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/2125973#2125973

     
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    Jul 22, 2009 4:15 PM   in reply to Phillip Jones

    Can't Adobe get some kind of account creation security challenge or something?  The level of spam here seems much higher than it does in professional forums* that software companies normally have.

     

    *These forums, with it's mickey mouse broken features, being anything but professional.

     
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    Jul 22, 2009 8:17 PM   in reply to Phillip Jones
    appears to be hawking a competitor pruduct to creat pdf forms in a web brwoser:

    that wouldn't be spam, that would be security.

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 5:53 AM   in reply to dave milbut

    Maybe for the Spammer , But wouldn't think Adobe would approve

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 6:16 AM   in reply to Phillip Jones

    then adobe should release a secure reader.

     
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    Jul 23, 2009 6:19 AM   in reply to dave milbut

    gee if adobe made "reader" just a, oh i dunno, READER, instead of a kitchen sink slash garbage disposal slash can opener slash blender slash food processor it might be a little easier to maintin this simple READER without exposing the freaking users to malware every frikkin time they turn around!

     
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    Jul 24, 2009 9:22 AM   in reply to dave milbut

    dave milbut wrote:

     

    gee if adobe made "reader" just a, oh i dunno, READER, instead of a kitchen sink slash garbage disposal slash can opener slash blender slash food processor it might be a little easier to maintin this simple READER without exposing the freaking users to malware every frikkin time they turn around!

     

    In other words, bloatware SUCKS?  Yep.

     
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    Jul 26, 2009 6:15 PM   in reply to Buko.

    Interesting thread.

     

    Recently, a poster to one of the Premiere fora started to have his posts show up with what looked like a "spam" signature. It was a URL for Dell computers and did link to the Dell site. I mentioned that he needed to rethink his sig, and he had no clue as to what I was talking about.

     

    It seems that some of his posts were being done through AOL, and he claimed to be adding nothing and also having no signature.

     

    Now, I did not know that AOL was still in existance, but has anyone else seen such?

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jul 26, 2009 6:18 PM   in reply to John T Smith

    John,

     

    Looks like you were not the only one to think so.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jul 26, 2009 9:46 PM   in reply to Buko.
     
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    Jul 26, 2009 10:34 PM   in reply to Buko.

    All posts by this user contain spam links: http://forums.adobe.com/people/uranusstars

     
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    Jul 26, 2009 10:47 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    AOL is definitely still around, seems to be mainly used by nervous computer users who need their hand held a lot. Posting from some phones also puts in an automatic sig which posters seem unaware of, also some email replies have that. Some people replying by email are saying they didn't even know their reply would show up in the forums, others complain bitterly that people are sending them lots of emails, because they don't understand the notifications system.

     
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    Jul 27, 2009 4:38 AM   in reply to Buko.

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/2134474#2134474

     

    Self promotion and a whole bunch of personal information.

     
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    Jul 27, 2009 8:53 AM   in reply to Kath-H

    In this particular case, I asked about phones, e-mail (do not think that the Adobe fora are on NTTP any more), and he said that it was from a browser initially. He came back, and said, that the ones in question (his first two did NOT have the URL) were from AOL.

     

    Now a question: in this case, it was a URL for a legit site (Dell Computers), but it was not at all germane to the discussion. What should policy be on something like that? The question that he raised was a good one. The discussion was progressing and he was furnishing useful data to help solve the issue, which was finally solved. If his posts with the URL (the AOL ones) were removed, then someone stumbling onto the thread would not have some critical data on the problem. What should policy be?

     

    Just curious,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Jul 27, 2009 9:31 AM   in reply to Buko.

    Someone may want to do this guy a favor and go remove his serial number from his post.

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/467712?tstart=0

     
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    Jul 27, 2009 6:20 PM   in reply to Pat Willener

    pwillener wrote:

     

    All posts by this user contain spam links: http://forums.adobe.com/people/uranusstars

     

    What is the point of posting here if nobody acts upon it?

     

    Posts where I click on the Report Abuse link are quickly acted upon, but not posts in this topic.  (I have now clicked the Report Abuse link on all posts of the above member.)

     

    P.S. but I understand that report posts may get overlooked with all the off-topic noise in here...

     

    P.P.S. forum hosts and moderators: do you have the ability to update posts?  If so, could you update report posts in here that have been acted upon, e.g. by appending something like done ?

     
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