I posted this in Toms Hardware, but since I'm gearing this rig up to edit AVCHD files in Premier primarily, I thought I'd get some input from here too.
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: I can wait for Windows 7 (10/22) if a clean install is better than an upgrade.
BUDGET RANGE: $1000-1800 After Rebates
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: HD video editing, Internet, burning movies, hosting media, Office and Productions apps.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers*
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com is fine.
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US
PARTS PREFERENCES: Core i7
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: No
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200 (HP w2408h)
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: The monitor has an HDMI input, which I would like to use. So, I think *audio must come through the HDMI cable. I'm using a Sony consumer grade HD camcorder (AVCHD) and Adobe CS4. My wife uses various Office apps as well as Illustrator/Photoshop for work. I have a 1TB USB drive and a 1TB network drive for nightly backups. Stuff me with RAM and spindles please. Needs to be fast and reliable. No gaming!
This is what I've come up with so far. Any opinions or suggestions?
CPU - $280
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115202
Mainboard - $290
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131365
Mainboard - $210 (-$20 MiR)
ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131386
Memory - $285
CORSAIR XMS3 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model HX3X12G1600C9 G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820145235
OS - $110
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116677
Case - $70 (-$20 MiR)
RAIDMAX SMILODON Extreme Black ATX-612WEB 1.0mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Foldout MB Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811156078
Power Supply - $100 (-$10 MiR)
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005
CPU Fan - $45
XIGMATEK Intel Core i7 compatible Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233029
CPU Fan - $63
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103055
Optical drive - $153
LG 8X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 6X BD-ROM 2MB Cache Blu-ray Burner Model BH08LS20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item= [Jeff] N82E16827136164
Hard Drive OS - $230 (-$30 MiR)
Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000HLFS 300GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136322
Hard Drive Data (x2) - $95 [Sold Out]
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136284 - $95
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives
Hard Drive Data (x2) - $90
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148433
Hard Drive Data (x2) - $80
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822152185
Video Card - $170 (-$20 MiR)
ASUS ENGTX260 GL+/HTDI/896MD3 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121337
Video Card - $190 (-$30 MiR)
EVGA 896-P3-1255-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130434
It looks good. For the disks I would not choose Seagate, but then I'm biased because of all the problems Seagate has had in the past and because of the temperatures. I would get 3 WD Caviar Blacks or Samsung F3's. No other comments.
Thinking about this more... would it also be helpful the change the scratch drive to a Velociraptor? The scratch drive would be more for speed, not capcity, right?
OS/Programs - 300GB Velociraptor
Scratch/Media Cache - 150GB Velociraptor
Data - 1000GB Samsung
Personally I would prefer a 1 TB disk for scratch, even though it is somewhat slower than the Velociraptor, because of 3 reasons:
1. It is a lot cheaper.
2. The fill rate is much lower, especially with large projects, offsetting the speed advantage of the Velociraptor.
3. It has a 32 MB buffer instead of the 16 MB buffer on the Velociraptor.
Chances are that with 100GB in use, a 1 TB disk would be even faster than a 150 GB Velociraptor.
Just to make sure you understand my intention:
1. 300 GB Velociraptor is great for OS & programs.
2. For scratch I would use a 1 TB disk.
Have a look at post #9 where I posted some HDTach results, http://forums.adobe.com/message/2301552?tstart=0#2301552
I think that will make it a bit clearer for you.
Okay, so I'll go with:
300GB Velociraptor - OS/Programs
1TB Samsung F3 - Scratch
1TB Samsung F3 - Data
Since I won't be needing RAID, do I have the best Mainboard? I'm a little confused with all their P6 variations.
Also, I'm going to be re-evaluating my CPU cooler based on this report:
For the mobo, look closely at the features. This is where they differ. Do you need IDE, do you need SAS, how many SATA ports do you need, do you need dual NIC's, do you need on-board sound, how many firewire ports do you need, etcetera?
Probably a P6T-SE can suffice and is a lot cheaper than the WS Pro or WS Revolution.
Interesting to see this report about CPU coolers. What always strikes me is that different sites come up with often conflicting results from their benchmarking. I mean, HDTach is HDTach, Atto is Atto, but with temperatures, that are so important for stability and longevity, you see such conflicting results and mostly lacking information on the tests and circumstances under which they were performed. It would be nice if all these sites were to report that tests were performed in a controlled environment with 21 degrees C ambient temperature, that the idle temperature measured was X degrees and after having run Super-Pi during one hour the load temperature was Y degrees. That would be worthwhile information.
This site reports quite different results than AnandTech and other sites. Which one do you believe? I just don't know. Often these results leave out whether a cooler was used in 'push' configuration or in 'push-pull' configuration, even though this may make a 3 degrees difference, even when overclocked. Most of these coolers are quite good and the difference is whether you can overclock your system to 3.84 GHz or 3.92 GHz and run it in a stable fashion. Not the most interesting criterium for video editors I guess.
Thanks for posting this link.
Even the GPU is overshadowed by it. "It" being the Flux Capacitor.
Thanks for posting these images. Quite illustrative. One question however, with the double height Kingston HyperX memory modules, did you have trouble installing these in the first bank because of the size of the CoolerMaster CPU cooler, or was it just easier to use the second bank? Do you still have the capability to add three more sticks?
Good to know. I did not have any problems myself, but from various sources I heard about the difficulty of installing for instance the very high Kingston HyperX sticks with their heat spreaders in the first slot with some CPU coolers. Something I should have mentioned in the PC buying guide, had I been aware of such potential dififculties.
Based on post #9 with the CPU. Is that not a little too much thermal paste you applied? According to Noctua's instructions 4-5mm of thermal paste should be enough. Applying too much could cause ineffective heat transfer.
It should look something like this
I just captured 2 hours of DV, encoded 33 movies to wmv, burned 11 DVD's, browsed the Internet, and copied 30 gigs to a USB drive all in about 5 hours. The CPU hardly broke over 80% utilization. With my old machine, I could have encoded about 4 movies before I got sleepy. I love power.