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9 Replies Last post: Nov 11, 2009 4:57 PM by merobertsjr  
Hambonio User 15 posts since
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Oct 26, 2009 10:41 AM

Quizzing spread sporadically through project

I'm creating a Captivate 4 lesson that uses question slides mixed into the project. After watching a few slides, the user answers a quiz question. If successfully answered, the project continues. If answered incorrectly, I'm trying to branch the project back to the beginning of that section for the student to redo those few slides before attempting to answer the question again. The process repeats itself throughout the lesson.

 

No matter what settings I set, failing to answer the question correctly doesn't result in the lesson branching back to the beginning of that section.

 

Any help appreciated!

t800v100 User 34 posts since
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1. Oct 26, 2009 11:50 PM in response to: Hambonio
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

I guess you would have already tried this, but still, just to be sure, Have you tried setting the Action under If wrong Answer in question slide properties for the question. For example, If you want to jump from a question slide to slide 4, then in the question slide properties, go to Options. Then under if wrong answer, select Jump to slide, and select Slide 4.

Have you already tried this?

 

Cheers!

Lilybiri Participant 846 posts since
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2. Oct 27, 2009 3:26 AM in response to: Hambonio
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

Hello,

 

Just tried this out: could you check the Quiz Settings (under menu Quiz, Preferences). In the default settings the option 'Allow backward movement' is deactivated. This causes not only the button Back to disappear, but there will be no way to jump to another slide before the question slide either. If you activate this option ''Allow backward movement' the 'jump to slide X', that you attributed to the wrong answer, will be executed.

 

Hope this works for you too,

 

Lilybiri

Lilybiri Participant 846 posts since
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4. Oct 27, 2009 1:13 PM in response to: Hambonio
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

Anyway the described method works in my CP-movies.

 

Lilybiri

jnlldrn User 4 posts since
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5. Nov 2, 2009 11:21 PM in response to: Lilybiri
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

Did you have any luck working this out? I'm trying to do the same thing and I've got further than you seem to have in these posts, but have got stuck further on.

 

In the Question Options, I have given my user two attempts to get it right; one failure level; and then Action selected is "Jump to Slide". In the Quiz Preferences, I have also selected "Allow Backward Movement". What happens: If you get it wrong the first time, the "Try Again" message pops up. If you get it wrong a second time the "Incorrect Answer" message pops up and when you click it to goes back to the slides before the quiz. Exactly as it should.

 

However, if they go through this process a second time and try the quiz again and still can't get it right, then I wanted to move them on to a slide that provides them with more info to help them understand. But if I set the Quiz Preferences to "Infinite Attempts", then they just get stuck in a loop, going back to the slides on an "Incorrect Answer". If I limit the Quiz Prefernces to 2 attempts, then it goes back a second time, and then when they get back to the quiz it's stuck and they can't move forward (I don't want to put a Skip button on there, as then it's there right from the very first attempt).

 

Any suggestions anyone?

Michael V Baker CommunityExpert 121 posts since
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6. Nov 3, 2009 10:30 AM in response to: jnlldrn
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

I think what you're describing is a case where all the things that Captivate do for you are not fitting into your plan. Captivate's great at what it does but it can't think of everything. The trouble is that we're setting up conflicting conditions... we want them to only be able to try twice but at the same time we want them to try more than twice (after the remedial training). Catch 22.

What you could do is re-think your scheme a little. Show the content they're supposed to learn, then the question and allow them two tries. If they fail then move *forward* to the next slide which contains a section that describes the objective in greater detail or in a different way. Then at the end of that section is another question - either duplicate of the first question or the same question asked in a different way. If they get it right on this question they move forward one frame to the next bit of content. Now, thinking back to the first instance of the question, if they get it right in that first question then they jump to the slide after the second question, skipping the remedial portion.

It's not great because you'll be duplicating some content and perhaps the questions, and the repeated content will make the file bigger. But at least it'll be realtively easy to follow the progress in the slide edit view.

 

HTH,

Mike

jnlldrn User 4 posts since
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7. Nov 3, 2009 2:12 PM in response to: Michael V Baker
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

Thanks Mike. Yes, I'd come to the same conclusion - that my concept of how I want it to work can't be done with the way Captivate is set up. Thanks for your ideas of a work-around. For now, I've just set the quiz attempts at "infinite" and they keep going back in the loop until they get it right - with multiple choice, how many times can you get it wrong! After that I've put an explanation slide which explains a bit more about the correct answer and why the others are wrong. This way, even if they ended up getting it right by elimination, hopefully they'll understand why it's the right answer. The idea of these question slides is not for assessment - it's to get them thinking (not just reading and watching).

 

I've got the e-learning suite on trial. I will keep wading my way through and learning as I go - what I've been able to work out so far looks good!

Janelle

Michael V Baker CommunityExpert 121 posts since
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8. Nov 3, 2009 4:27 PM in response to: jnlldrn
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

Glad you came up with a solution that works for you. Sounds like you're taking the time to build a better mouse-trap than the page turner.

 

Mike

merobertsjr User 17 posts since
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9. Nov 11, 2009 4:57 PM in response to: Hambonio
Re: Quizzing spread sporadically through project

I know this could be bit much for you application, but you could also create a variable and use that variable to show a button.  that button would enable the user to skip forward, but would only be shown after a number of attempts.  It would eliminate the need for addtional question or content slides.  You could then set to infinate attempts and you are all set.  You can allow the user to tap out after what ever number of attempts you like, you could even call that variables value somewhere at the end to indicate that some sections were skipped...

 

Just a thought.

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