Unfortunately, Dave Saunders' amazing PreserveLocalFormatting.jsx script (that changes local formatting to character styles) doesn't work under InDesign CS4. I've tried running it both as-is and in the compatibility mode (putting it in a folder marked Version 4.0 scripts), and it seems to star to run, but doesn't actually do anything. Anyone more versed in scripts know what might be the trouble?
http://indesignsecrets.com/downloads/PreserveLocalFormatting.jsx
Perhaps even better: my amazing preptext.jsx (http://www.jongware.com/binaries/preptext.zip).
It runs under CS4 and has a plethora of other formatting combo's that it checks. It also has a progress bar ![]()
Just tried it and it's quite nice! One thing I noticed, and it may just be an aesthetic thing, is that with your script, you end up with a style that has some strange attributes. For example, for an underline style it shows the attributes in the Character Style as being [None] + Regular + underline - strikethrough -caps + position: normal. But if I create the character style manually, the attributes are: [None] + underline.
Though that's a minor quibble. I'd have to see if that creates any 'interference' in practical use.
You seem to have some other scripts on your site too, but no description of what they do. Do you have a listing somewhere of your scripts?
ad a. You got me there. The script forcibly creates new styles with the exact attributes it should -- i.e., if not "Italic" or "Bold", well, then ... it's "Regular". It's a pain to edit these styles afterwards, and in fact the version I use (daily) doesn't do that any more. Remind me to upload that one instead.
ad b. You got me there. Small scripts can be copied-and-pasted into forum messages, but larger ones cannot be attached to messages. So if I write a larger script, I zip it (to prevent download issues), dump it on my site and post the link here.
Every now and then I visit Peter Kahrel's scripting pages and think, "When I have the time ..."
http://www.jongware.com/binaries/preptext.zip is refreshed to the new version that does not forces every attribute to be set or clear.
The script searches for text formatted with Bold, Italic, Underline, Superscript, Subscript and Small Capitals and replaces it with a character style with an appropriate name. Replacing manual formatting with a character style has significant advantages, the most important ones are that you no longer can accidently remove them (when overriding paragraph attributes), and afterwards, you can change the styles at will.
There are a few points you must keep in mind:
Read the ID Help or http://indesignsecrets.com/how-to-install-scripts-in-indesign.php for instructions on how to install and use scripts.
Ever seen a paragraph style name with a '+' added to it? That's an indication the paragraph contains 'local formatting' somewhere -- a manual override of the formatting in the paragraph style. If you select some text and apply "Italic", well, that's a manual override -- the font in the paragraph style specifies "Regular".
The problem with manual overrides is that they can disappear without warning. Try this: select some text in your document and underline it -- the paragraph style name will gain a '+'. Alt+click the paragraph style ("Apply Removing Overrides") -- the underline disappears. Or: change the paragraph style, adding 'underlined' to it. Press "OK" (all paragraphs in that style will be underlined), then change the style back, removing the Underline. Your manually applied underline will be gone.
If you never had any of these problems -- or you don't think of it as a problem
-- you don't really need this script...
The main point is that the script cannot know in advance what the italic fonts are called.
I usually use 'Find Font' on new documents, and if I see quirky bold or italics, I just replace them immediately with a regular "Times New Roman Bold" and "Italic" so I'm sure the script will pick them up.
You lost me there. You don't change the font itself, you change the font used in your document. Then you run the script. It tags all italicized text with one unique character style for "Italics". If you don't have a regular italic in the font used, all you have to do is change the character style.
It sounds as if the text you work on has already been formatted. Running scripts that mess with texts over "almost finished" texts may have been an invitation to disaster ...
Let be clear.
I have a final text, with styles, in a word document.
In indesign i use one font for the main text, it have a real italic, called italic.
I use another font for footnotes, the font have italics too but its called 'book italic'.
So i run you your script, it works for the main text.
But for the footnotes i doesn't work, tried to apply an 'italic' style when the italic is called 'book italic'…
I can't fixe that seaching for italics on a specific font and change it for book italic for 1 reason :
— you can't seach in footnotes (it seems)
So i thought if i change the name 'book italic' for 'italic' in the OTF file, it would work.
Aha -- your footnote font differs! Yes -- sometimes I have to mix two fonts that apply different naming schedules, and in that case the script straightens things out that should stay crooked ![]()
You can make a new character style named "Book Italic" (with its style set to the correct italic font). Then do a search and replace; search for "Formatting" -> Character Style "Italic" and Paragraph Style "(your footnote paragraph style). Replace with Character Style "Book Italic".
That, unfortunately, depends on your definition of a word ![]()
If you click your text cursor in a text frame, InDesign shows you the number of "Words" (and Characters, Lines and Paragraphs as well) in the Info panel.
This thread http://forums.adobe.com/message/2151036#2151036 shows an alternative way of counting.
#5. Any formatting other than those mentioned is not preserved or changed by this script. If you suspect your document has other types of formatting you want to preserve, replace these by hand with character styles. The script is hardcoded to ignore text that already has a character style, something you can use in your advantage (when done properly).
So, in a fresh document (that has no character styles!), you can safely apply a custom character style to the text in the "Book Italic" font.
Then run my script -- it will not change existing character styles.
Yes, but that's because the script did not pick up the 'book italic' in the first place ...
Suppose you have a document with Times Italic and Helvetica Italic, and you want both to be preserved in their own font. Then you would have to change at least one of them to another style before you run the script -- to prevent both fonts get tagged as "Italic".
I have to do this almost every day, so for me it's becoming 2nd nature ...
mariana pineda wrote:
A super script. How to use it also in foonotes?
Super-script -- also known as "superior"! ![]()
It needs nothing special, it already should work just fine in footnotes, as well as in tables. The script searches the entire story. (An important note is that anchored objects contain "their own story" -- it does not work through to these as well.)
Ehm, the 'color' part is not entirely clear. Do you mean you want to see your italics (etc.) also in another color? When the script is finished, you can change the automatically created character styles and add some color to them.
Jongware's free script is wonderful and a great help to many people. You might also look at the Create Basic Character Styles and Create All Character Styles features in the Blatner Tools plug-in (dtptools.com/bt), along with the Create Paragraph Styles (which can create paragraph styles for you throughout an unstyled document).
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