Will you offer a plan that is suitable for high usage clients.  I plan to use the service for hours a day, with 30 - 100 concurrent users at a time.  In that case the current pricing but not be that reasonable.  It might be more affordable to go with a connect pro pricing plan.  I think there should be an unlimited usage plan for example 100 concurrent users unlimited meetings or at least something similar.

why is the live stream bandwidth showing when my application does not have any video or audio? I was just testing the app and under live stream bandwidth it says 0.003 GB ?

Also about the user per minute section it says $0.01 per hour per user

so if user one connected @ 8am and user two connected at @ 8:30am @ 8:59am will this account be billed $0.01 for each user or will it only bill the one who has been on for an hour ? I'm trying to understand how this will work for application where you have users going in and most may not even stay for an hour...

Thanks for the reply. I did run one of the chat application i'm developing through the system and it will be nice to have list of actions that might count as push message. E.g I only tested the application connecting to the server and the application connecting to one collectionnode. But it says  my push message is 254. So does this mean connecting to the server counts towards your push message count?. .. I didn't send any chat message. Just login and log out few times.

Hi,

so AFCS is no longer free ?

Regards

fox

I am planning a video chat app, and this seems to be an affordable solution. Please confirm my calc.

A room with 8 users, 1 user is multicasting to 7 others during 2 minutes. That is 8 streams altogether. Video is at 160 kbps, so here we go:

8 streams * 160kbps * 120 seconds = 153 600 kbit / 8 bit = 19 200 kbyte = 18 Megabyte

18 Megabytes is not that bad.

Hi All,

Below is our usage report for the LCCS. Can some one help me understand how adobe arrived at the figure $0.17 little confused with the push messages.

How many concurrent users are supported at any given point of time?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Thresholdsoft

Thanks for the reply Fang.

My other question was about.

Let us suppose we are conducting a training session, is there any limit on the number of users who can log-in?

Thanks

Thresholdsoft

Can I send video as binary data using NetGroup or BinaryPublisher? Will I be able to use P2P? Thanks!

hi Raff,

Thank you for the reply! Sorry for getting back to this rather late. Let me rephrase my question here.

I wrote an application on Stratus, which supports P2P data sharing among peers. It relies on NetConnection and NetStream, whose send() function is especially helpful. To connect to Stratus you just need to call NetConnection.connect(Stratus_address_+DEVELOPER_KEY). NetGroup, when released, will be very helpful too.

I wonder if such an application would be portable to LCCS?

Thank you very much!

I see. Thank you very much!

I have some questions regarding the free usage and the monthly limits.

In the Dev Portal I currently have 3 "Applications". My "default" application says "Free" under "Montlhy Limit" and the others have a dollar limit.

1. Does that mean that the $15 free I get each month only is usage on my "default" application ?

2. Which again means that I can not have an application running that have $15 free usage and after that usage is billed ?

3. The limit I have set does that get reset on the first of every month or on the day I get charged ?

Okay - one more question then.

Looking at "Usage this cycle" is that then usage since the last charge or usage since the first of the month?

It should of course in my opinion be since last charge but I'm in doubt because when I open a Report for that application the begin date is the first of the month up till today.

Thanks

Another thing you should probably look into:

I changed a Monthly Limit from $15 to $50. After I logged out and in again it said FREE.

After another logout and login it correctly said $50 though.

This makes sense to me, though I don't see why messages couldnt be passed in the p2p stream as we do successfully with Stratus.

My concern is really the amount of users that require the fall back to hub-spoke. The difference in cost with an app serving tens of thousands of users could be tremendous.

Assuming we detect and force Flash Player 10.1+ use in our app, what % (very roughly) might we expect to have to fall back due to firewall issues?

By debugging ChatRoulette's code I noticed they've increased their FMS server cluster from 5 to 12 boxes. My guess is there is a pretty large % of fallback for whatever reason.

-jared

Hi Fang -- the service looks great. I'd like to clarify a point about potential high-volume usage.

We're building a video chat app that could become very high-volume. Hypothetically, let's say we have 1m users, day and night. Each one sends 100 messages per hour and -- each month -- uses 100 MB of bandwidth. Hypothetically again, all the video/audio streaming would go through P2P.

1) Would it really cost $14.5 million per month, or does a 'user minute' register only when there is server activity for a user during a given minute?

2) Do you see these stats below as more or less accurate? [note that messages would be used only for: peering; IM on our site]

$0.01/User*1,000,000Users*24hours*30days=$7,200,000

$0.0001/Message*1,000,000Users*100Messages*24hours*30days=$7,200,000

Thanks for your response, Nigel. I don't think that model will scale for any significant business. As an example, Facebook derives around $2 per year from its users, and it is starting to do a decent job monetizing. Now imagine if it relied on a 3rd party service like LCCS and they proposed taking a cut of 65% of gross revenues. Not realistic.

It seems to me that LCCS pricing is far out of line with FMS pricing -- around 100x more, even if you include Amazon EC2 hosting for FMS -- so I wondered if I am misreading the LCCS pricing?

You are quite right about 20MM users equating to 1MM connections. But what are the advantages of LCCS over FMS (or 'FMS + our own cluster engineering') when the price disparity is so enormous?

Can you answer the following questions about LCCS Pay Per Use Pricing?

Is this version of LCCS only for developing prototypes or doing light development?

How would one be sure of uptime guarantee and is there any sort of technical support available?

I have heard that this environment will be taken offline for 12-24 hours or sometimes a day or two. Is this correct? If so, how can we deploy apps for our customers?

Thanks!