"Are the combinations of Dreamweaver 8 | Flash 8 | Fireworks 8 good for
producing high end web pages. If not, what do you all recommend? "

Of course. It is the best package of tools available.

"Also, should Dreamweaver be the ending program to peice all of the
different
graphical and text elements together?"

Yes, it is a complete sitebuilding and management program

"Or can you just build multi web pages through Flash alone?"

No. For a start Flash files need to be inside html files (or php etc) and
although Flash will generate all the html - dont. Just dont. All flash sites
are plain bad.

"I just finished reading Dreamweaver training book so I'm hoping it wasn't
a
waste of time. I spent almost 1 week reading and doing all the exercises."

A week huh? I've been using Dreamweaver for years and I'm still not done
learning.

--
James Loudon
www.fatgraphics.com
websites::photography::video

"bubblesblow" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Are the combinations of Dreamweaver 8 | Flash 8 | Fireworks 8 good for
> producing high end web pages. If not, what do you all recommend?
>
> Also, should Dreamweaver be the ending program to peice all of the
> different
> graphical and text elements together?
>
> Or can you just build multi web pages through Flash alone?
>
> I just finished reading Dreamweaver training book so I'm hoping it wasn't
> a
> waste of time. I spent almost 1 week reading and doing all the exercises.
>
> I did find that uploading all your files through dreamweaver FTP was
> pretty
> easy so I would think formating all your pages using Dreamweaver can
> probably
> be good but what do I know, im just a nOOb developer.
>

Hey, no offence taken. I too am more of an art tart than a code head, but
also an engineer that loves to put things together and find out out they
work.

"With every book I read or CD rom I watch I get more and more questions."

Yup, that'll happen. It just means you are not getting complacent and you
want to find out more. There is nothing worse that someone who reads a book
then thinks they know it all. In World Of Web you just never stop learning -
especially as standards change and CSS develops. Keeps your brain working.

"cause my questions must be answered to I get the BIG PICTURE."

Might be a good plan. Once you get a few basic principles in place in your
head a lot more will become clear. I honestly wish I had had some proper
training and I may have advanced quicker. You can't beat having an expert
right there, so you can go "Sorry, just dont understand that bit"
Mind you, things were a bit simpler 8 years ago. I wouldn't want to be
starting out now!
I'll tell you a book that really helped be back then - Designing Web
Graphics by Lynda Weinmann.
At some point you are also going to want to read Eric Meyer cos he is the
god of all things CSS.
Good luck.



--
James Loudon
www.fatgraphics.com
websites::photography::video


"bubblesblow" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I do thank you James for your feedback, I certainly didn't want to
> offend
> you about what I said about the learning Dreamweaver. I'm sure your BIG
> TIME
> more advanced then me. Again, I'm just a Macromedia NOOB!
>
> But I'm a artist at heart which is whats making me not give up.
>
> I'm just confused about the whole process about making the graphics and
> sending them to Dreamweaver.
>
> I guess I'll get it cause I've only been eating, sleeping, drinking and
> farting this stuff, literally!!!
>
> I've spent a great deal of money on books and programs and I feel like
> I've
> made no stride. With every book I read or CD rom I watch I get more and
> more
> questions.
>
> I think I need 2 just give in and go to a class cause my questions must be
> answerd to I get the BIG PICTURE.
>
>
>

bubblesblow wrote:
> Are the combinations of Dreamweaver 8 | Flash 8 | Fireworks 8 good for
> producing high end web pages. If not, what do you all recommend?

You have to define what you think a high end web page is. Blue chip
companies often have dreadful sites, and one man bands have been known to
have great sites. Is 'high end' related to the design of the page, or the
underlying technology?

> Also, should Dreamweaver be the ending program to peice all of the
> different graphical and text elements together?

Yes, that's normal.
>
> Or can you just build multi web pages through Flash alone?

No. You can write the majority of the website in Flash if you wish, but it
will at least need a wrapper of HTML to make it work on the internet. If you
do write the site in Flash, make sure you address issues of accessibility -
if a blind person cannot work with the site, neither can search engines.

> I just finished reading Dreamweaver training book so I'm hoping it
> wasn't a waste of time. I spent almost 1 week reading and doing all
> the exercises.

Depends on the book and the exercises (I do recommend 50 sit-ups a day
though. And if you can do 100, that's my quota done too...).

I'd suggest getting hold of a good template (from
http://www.projectseven.com or http://www.dreamweaverresources.com) and
playing with it to see how it's built up from the original Fireworks
graphics. Both these companies provide excellent documentation, so you can
see the workflow of the professionals, and the support if you have any
questions is second to none. At some point you'll need to pick up a bit of
HTML and CSS - but that will come naturally; just leave DW in 'Split' mode,
and see what the code does when you change the design, and vice versa.

HTH,

Pete.
--
Peter Connolly
http://www.acutecomputing.co.uk
Derby
UK
Skype ID: acutecomputing

On 07 Sep 2006 in macromedia.dreamweaver, bubblesblow wrote:

> I think I need 2 just give in and go to a class cause my questions
> must be answerd to I get the BIG PICTURE.

As Murray suggested, you need to learn HTML and CSS. Spend a few more
bucks (under US$20 at Amazon) and pick up a copy of Elizabeth Castro,
"HTML, XHTML, and CSS, Sixth Edition (Visual Quickstart Guide)"

http://www.peachpit.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0321430840&rl=1

<disclaimer class="standard">No connection, etc</disclaimer>

Then spend a week with Castro and your favorite text editor hand-coding
pages. The big picture will come into clearer focus.

--
Joe Makowiec
http://makowiec.net/
Email: http://makowiec.net/email.php

Michael Hager wrote:
> As Nike says, ?Just Do It?. Start creating web sites.
>
> The best teacher in the world is experience.

Agreed, but you need a basis from which to start. The key to building
good websites is an understanding of (X)HTML. A lot of the people who
come here with problems have followed the "just do it" ethos for too
long, got into bad habits, and create spaghetti soup instead of clean
code. A short amount of time studying (X)HTML now will repay itself over
and over again.

--
David Powers
Adobe Community Expert
Author, "Foundation PHP for Dreamweaver 8" (friends of ED)
http://foundationphp.com/

Admire his/her art if you want, but don't emulate the web methods....

--
Murray --- ICQ 71997575
Adobe Community Expert
(If you *MUST* email me, don't LAUGH when you do so!)
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"bubblesblow" <webforumsuser@macromedia.com> wrote in message
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> Wow, this is all EXCELLENT advices and I thank ALL of you.
>
> I'm seriously excited about learning as much as I can but I think I must
> take
> ALL of your advices and do this step by step.
>
> Again, im totaly new to all this but the artist in me just wont let me
> give
> up. I'm reading stuff that makes most of my friends scratch their head.
>
> I'm not much of a book worm, my memory is aaaaa and I can get impatient
> BUT, I
> am making major stride to changing my bad habits and just learning the
> boring
> stuff so I can get to the fun stuff, ART!!!!!
>
> Anyways, I do have a couple of web artist who I totally look up to. One of
> which is this cat, http://www.minkipark.com.
>