I'm trying to understand the following:
Cost of pre-ordering Photoshop CS5 from Adobe's online US store is: USD$699 which is approx AUD$754 according to the following website:
Cost of pre-ordering Photoshop CS5 from Adobe's online AU store is: AUD$1195
I'm trying to understand the AUD$441 difference. Does anyone have any thoughts?
Where would you recommend buying Photoshop CS5 if you lived in Australia?
It stinks, a question of what they can get away with, they do this in Europe as well.
I think they could try to make this a bit more tolerable I understand doing business here in the U.S. might be a bit easier
here in the States for them and we might have more users but they have a good loyal group in Australia and would widen their base
there as well if they brought all the pricing in line.
Same thing for camera and photography equipment, I was there recently and from what just about everyone told me bring it into line and there are lot of amatuer and hobbist that would buy. Without question.
Very poor decision on developers and manufacturers side.
I think the whole thing stinks. Its the same products.
You don't need the new version.
So have you been a beta-tester or on what do you base that statement?
Going 64 bit alone would, I suspect, be beneficial for many users and a couple of the other features look quite promising as well (and I don’t mean the Content Aware Fill, even though the programming achievement seems impressive).
Actually I think this will be one of the last great releases for Adobe. It's just a personal insight. I see many ad agencies and design firms really hold back on purchasing the latest and greatest versions and I'm only talking about the US market. Most of the Asia markets I deal with are at least 3 to 4 versions behind. You don't need all the new happy features that Adobe is offering to make money. Yes the new features are very impressive and I don't take away the hard work that is put forth in developing said app. But I do see a change in market behavior. Jobs are getting far far worse as far as construction, sloppy crap is the norm and basically the lack of preplanning upon many all chuck-up to frustrated users at all ends of the spectrum.
Realistically, if Adobe does not address the nature of artist ( pig factor ) and the advancement of their technology, and how it correlates to their profit margins, they are going to be in for a rude awakening. Product disconnect and user experience defects will make a smaller company for sure.
The company I work at provides services for a lot of ad agencies in one of the smaller middle European countries and most of those still seem to use CS3, as well – so your observation seems to hold for Europe, too.
And I doubt if the ones that did switch early on gained any financially measurable advantage.
But I just consider it part of good corporate culture that a company provides employees with up-to-date tools of their trades.
(Apart from medical, 3D and some other features) image-editing-wise it is certainly true that one can achieve the same results with CS (or even older) as with CS4 – albeit with less comfort and editability.
So for graphic designers it may indeed not be very urgent to upgrade regularly.
As concerns »new happy features«: I for one have have not had a single case where I used the content aware scale for something other than showing how it works …
But the much publicized »bells and whistles« are not all there is to a new version – take Configurator.
That does not seem to have gotten very wide attention, but it offers a terrific workflow-improvement in my opinion.
As for the »pig factor«: I consider the reproachful complaints of the obstinately and willfully ignorant when they finally notice that their obsolete versions don’t run on new OSs or any number of other self-inflicted problems a bit annoying.
Anyway, you are not alone in lamenting (recent) developments at Adobe … I don’t seem to perceive the problem as strongly as others, though.
I have been in the past an instructor teaching Photoshop at private, trade, and University schools. I know what the schools are turning out. The educational system in the US is ghastly imbalanced in best practices, mechanicals, and basic knowledge on how to build files. Art colleges are the worst offenders. We often look towards our educational system as the all knowing place to learn, but again, the disconnect between human behavior, life experience, environment and tools are missing in US schooling.
With the advancement of the software the files and art is actually getting worse. It's a trend that has been happening for many years - about as long as I have been ******** on this forum. It's kind of expected due to more and more "general population users" having access to computers and personal devices, but for Adobe to continue to ignore this issue is corporate suicide. The software becomes far more complex as they add new users. There is a fine line between unbridled creativity and job control. As of now with the current open architecture of Adobe products, users are fumbling around to no end trying to educate themselves as best they can, or want to, to create a final project. With that clearly understood, Adobe REALLY needs to rethink their product and how to assist users in creating art. They do what they can and what they know without stifling so called creativity, but I clearly see the company only focusing on unlimited features with no end in site. The problem with that philosophy is that eventually your client base gets burned out with wonderful toys if all you are doing is creating the same garbage day in and day out. This is not to speak to everyone though. Camera RAW and Lightroom are AMAZING technologies but again island software development is not the solution for Adobe to create a locked in industry standard workflow that assist ALL users in better controllable art processes.
People are looking for guidance and solutions to make projects run smoother, but the problems are clearly in implementation. I know Chris Cox likes to tell me Im a blow hard in so many words and just because Adobe products don't do what I think they should do, does not discount the fact that everyone makes mistakes in jobs. If the software can't assist users in creating a higher level of reliability as you pass on files, then eventually the company will run out of people who want to bone up to the next version. The only way they are going to keep this pace is by shutting down backwards compatibility, but that in itself is a delicate topic that may damage sales to no end.
Other then that, if Adobe wants to continue their current path of ignorance, I could care less as I count my stack of green backs from the mess their products leave behind, but what do I know....
This is a recurrent issue arising with each update. There is a considerable discrepancy between these kinds of repetitive and unseemly practices and the type of corporate image the company endeavors to project.
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