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I think InDesign CS5 exports PDF as a background task. It means that you wont see a progress bar but you can perform other activities at the same time. That wasn´t possible with earlier versions...

Can't help with the slowness, which I suspect is related to something else you have running, but PDF export is now a "background task" which means it no longer stops you from doing other things while it finishes. You can get details on background task from Window > Utilities > Background Tasks and while the export is active there is a widget that appears in the Menu Bar the right of the other things that are always there. It resembles a stack of short black bars that appear and disappear while the export is progressing.

Cool, thanks. That worked. At least I know where I am in the export now, and agree, continuing to work is a good thing. Nice enhancement.

Still sticky though, and can get very bad in high quality display mode with larger images. To the point of image jumping. That is, moving an image with the mouse, and lagging behind so bad that you have to basically anticipate the sticky, jumpy movements to land it close to where you want it to be.

It happens on new documents, old documents, while nothing else is running, etc. It's only in ID, and can even get very slow responsiveness when trying to resize the window the document is in. In fact, when I was setting up my pallets, I chose to show the mini bridge. Opened the mini bridge and tried to drag it into another pallet area and CRASH! Sent the report to Adobe.

Not sure what to make of it, but there is definitely something going on with my ID CS5. Everything else seems smooth for the most part...

adamgordon wrote:

 

I actually just watched my activity monitor while I simply moved images and text boxes around.  The CPU% climbed as high as 80%.  Stayed between 30-80% ish.  That can right.  With CS4, it stayed below 40% the whole time.  Any thoughts?

I think that would be pretty dependent on the document content. With a simple doc I don't get so much as a blip in performace in either version.

Here's my video info:

ATI Radeon HD 4670:

  Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4670

  Type: GPU

  Bus: PCIe

  PCIe Lane Width: x16

  VRAM (Total): 256 MB

  Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

  Device ID: 0x9488

  Revision ID: 0x0000

  ROM Revision: 113-B8030F-260

  EFI Driver Version: 01.00.383

  Displays:

iMac:

  Resolution: 2560 x 1440

  Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

  Main Display: Yes

  Mirror: Off

  Online: Yes

  Built-In: Yes

  Connection Type: DisplayPort

I having the same problem. CS4 does not have this sluggishness.

Are any of you using custom keyboard shortcut sets or anything similar that you imported from a previous version? In another thread that's just been linked to keys not working correctly.

What about font managers? (did I ask that already?)

No change with suitcase off

How about turning off preflight?

Any cross-references or hyperlinks?

cspann wrote:

 

Here's my video info:

 

 

ATI Radeon HD 4670:

 

  Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 4670

  Type: GPU

  Bus: PCIe

  PCIe Lane Width: x16

  VRAM (Total): 256 MB

  Vendor: ATI (0x1002)

  Device ID: 0x9488

  Revision ID: 0x0000

  ROM Revision: 113-B8030F-260

  EFI Driver Version: 01.00.383

  Displays:

iMac:

  Resolution: 2560 x 1440

  Pixel Depth: 32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)

  Main Display: Yes

  Mirror: Off

  Online: Yes

  Built-In: Yes

  Connection Type: DisplayPort

 

Your 2560 x 1440 resolution seems to indicate a 27" screen. 256 MB VRAM is probably on the scant side of sufficient for processing this many pixels quickly, though, there may be other aspects of the graphics processing subsystem that compensate well for the pure VRAM amount. I'm comparing that to my MacBook Pro 17" with 1680 x 1050 resolution has 512 MB VRAM - about half the pixels with double the amount of VRAM. Whether or not this is the key factor, there are some other things to consider, that I've not seen mentioned in this thread.

These Pages panel settings and options can consume lots of video processing when the display includes:

* Lots of document pages, with Pages > Panel Options > Page and Master sizes set to large or extra-large thumbnails, and Icons for Transparency, Spread Rotation, and Page Transitions checked (ON). In CS5, there are also page color labels

* Lots of small text, with Preferences > Display Performance > Greek Text below set to a small point size, or even zero points; also, Enable Anti-aliasing turned on; OpenType fonts with many options turned on, like ligatures, positional forms, etc - things that require calculation

* Many complex graphics with display performance set to maximum quality

* Conditional text (pages thumbnails show/hide content according to condition settings)

* Multiple page sizes in one document (CS5)

If CS5 is slower than CS4, the if you've set some new CS5 features, try turning them off.

HTH

Regards,

Peter

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KnowHow ProServices

adamgordon wrote:

 

I can have one semi complicated .ai file and nothing else on the page.  The only setting you mentioned that would be turned on is high quality preview.  With that you cannot move the picture on the screen smoothly without it  jumping all around.  I can have CS4 open with 20 complicated .ai files and 100 images on a 44 page catalog and it runs beautifully.

Is it possible that there's a newer video driver for your hardware?

I don't think you've mentioned whether the display is integral - like an iMac - or external. I'm not sure that would make a difference, but perhaps there's an issue with the connection between the computer and an external monitor. Are you using more than one display? Are there some other display settings that come into play with multiple monitors, like mirroring, primary and secondary, refresh rates for one or both, etc? Just guessing.

Have you tried exporting the file to IDML and opening that in InDesign CS5? Have you tried the file on another machine running InDesign CS5? What results?

HTH

Regards,

Peter

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Peter Gold

KnowHow ProServices

I'm having the exact same issue with moving graphics around in ID CS5, new or older documents... and that's with 16GB RAM and a 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card. I've never experienced it in CS4.

Hoping it will get fixed in an update.

Adam, Huh, hadn't noticed but just checked it out. It's the same with vector and bitmaps. Like you I use place native .ai and .psd files.

I move something with the mouse and curser and it steps across the page.

Regards, Wayne

Not sent from an iPad <heavy sigh>

Yeah, sux when you're trying to move something just a little and it's bouncing around like a house fly with a dose of Raid.

What are you guys using for mice? The newest  Apple mouse does not seem to get along well with ID as far as scrolling, and I think I may have seen some posts about trying to drag page items, too.

Peter,

Thanks for offering some ideas. Uh, you are correct. It is a 27" iMac. (5 months old) As a side note, this machine rocks! Phenomenal depth and range of color. It's made design work much easier.

Honestly, I cannot speak to the VRAM issue, all I could add is that it works perfectly in CS4, so logic would dictate that the only variable in the equation is ID CS5. Same files, machine, user, etc.

It also may be relevant to note that I use this machine to fly X-Plane 9.0, which is insanely graphic intensive with lots of motion, and the machine handles it superbly. I will very rarely get a motion freeze, but then quickly catches up if it does happen. I have to believe if it can render X-Plane motion okay, ID CS4 okay, PS CS5, AI CS5, etc., then there is something specific to the ID code handling that has changed. (For the worse) It is simply the only variable that has changed.

I further have to stress that I do get other "Sticky" issues on ID CS5 as well. This includes the following:

1. Resizing the document pane can be very sticky or non responsive.

2. I can click out of ID to the desktop or other program, ID refuses to release the screen. I have to click back on ID and then back off for it to deselect.

3. I've had ID crash when pulling pallets into other pallet windows. Report sent to Adobe.

None of this happened in CS4. (And still doesn't) I've reinstalled, deleted preferences and more. Nothing has resolved the issues.

It seems we keep looking at the individual machines for the cause, and I understand that inclination, however, the only program struggling on my machine is ID CS5. I think we have enough reports of this issue that we could eliminate individual systems as a root cause. There are too many setup variables reported, from Mac to PC, various hard drive configurations, processors, RAM amounts, etc., all displaying the same issue.

Furthermore, everyone seems to be saying CS4 worked no problems. This again suggests that the system setups are fine, and that CS5 has some kind of issue as it relates to graphic movement.

As to the below. I do have some of what you mentioned, however, nothing that seems unusual or anything ID & the computer shouldn't be able to handle. I will see if I can post a couple pages to my site. I'll repost that info...

Yea, I cant argue with that if there are only a dozen reports.

cspann wrote:

 

Yea, I cant argue with that if there are only a dozen reports.

I think this is the only thread so far...