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JulesN User 207 posts since
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May 4, 2010 1:43 PM

Template problem with cs5

I've transferred all my sites to cs5 (from cs4).  I build all my sites with DW templates.  When I bring up my pages from any site in DW cs4, I can edit them no problem.  When I bring them up in cs5, all of a sudden I have the "no-edit" symbol (red circle crossed) when I try to type over any editable areas.  Is there a setting that I am missing that I forgot to readjust when I loaded the files in cs5?

 

Thanks in advance

Jules

  • daibodhisattva Calculating status... 8 posts since
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    3. May 6, 2010 10:38 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I am having the exact same issue.  Attempting the change you suggested now to see if this corrects my problem..

  • daibodhisattva User 8 posts since
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    5. May 6, 2010 11:48 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I agree!  I'm currently attempting to update a site I took over a few years ago.  The main page is wrapped inside of a "container" div which is in the non-editable region... and no matter what I've attempted.. not working.  I may have to play with the primary container to get this functioning again.. def something Adobe needs to hear about .. at least make it backward compatible for a while and let us all transition over... etc...

  • daibodhisattva User 8 posts since
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    6. May 6, 2010 12:40 PM (in response to daibodhisattva)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I just reported a bug to Adobe.  You have the work around for more simple DIV structures, but Adobe cannot possibly expect us to modify sites that have hundreds of DIV statements. And as for a very complex nested DIV structure as I have here, this solution does not fix the problem, only creates more.  As well, it it were not a bug, the code view window would not function unless the div was properly placed as well.

  • daibodhisattva User 8 posts since
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    9. May 7, 2010 1:02 PM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    PERFECT! The solution worked even with my container DIVs.  Thanks for sharing and agree.. needs to be fixed.  Did Adobe seem as though it was a known issue?

  • markburgessstl User 4 posts since
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    11. May 8, 2010 6:21 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Just wanted to add a "me too"... I had an overflow:hidden in my CSS.  Commenting it our solved the problem of not being able to edit.

  • Efdewa Calculating status... 16 posts since
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    14. Aug 4, 2010 10:22 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    It is 3 months after you reported this problem and it still seems to be unsolved by Adobe. I just installed the last update and the problem is still there. I work with Dw since version 3 and this is the first time I keep going back to a previous version. First Dw CS5 kept crashing, this seems solved, but still when I quit the program I get an error. I can live with that but not with this template/CSS issue. Do you still need to turn of the overflow: hidden?

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    16. Aug 4, 2010 11:05 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Yes, I already have send a bug report.

    Hope they will follow this up soon. More 'funny' things occur while working with Dw CS5 but I cannot get into all of them, so I keep going back to CS4 instead. Not good.

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    17. Aug 4, 2010 11:06 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    And like you, I never had this before with Adobe products.

  • Randy Edmunds Adobe Employee 506 posts since
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    18. Aug 4, 2010 11:34 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5
    Yes, I am still having to turn off overflow:auto in css!  And yes, it still annoys me.

     

    The work around for that problem is to create a .css file with this rule:

     

    * {

                    overflow: visible !important;

    }

     

    And apply the style sheet as a Design-time Style Sheet.

     

    Note that this will always disable all overflow properties on your page. You can be more selective, if desired. Using the example from above:

     

    #contentLeft {

                    overflow: visible !important;

    }

     

     

    Hope this helps,

    Randy

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    20. Aug 4, 2010 1:09 PM (in response to Randy Edmunds)
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    Sorry, this is still not workable for me, too much a hassle turning it on and off (surely I will forget the off-part). I rather go back to CS4. Are you guys going to update this bug or what is the story behind this?

  • Randy Edmunds Adobe Employee 506 posts since
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    21. Aug 4, 2010 1:26 PM (in response to Efdewa)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Sorry, this is still not workable for me, too much a hassle turning it on and off (surely I will forget the off-part). I rather go back to CS4.

     

    This handling of overflow elements goes back a few releases, so I believe it works the same in CS4. Maybe you are seeing a different problem.

     

    You don't need to turn off Design-time Style Sheets (DTSS). I also forgot to mention that if you apply the DTSS to the Template, then it will automatically get applied to pages that are generated from that Template (even if you apply it to the Template after the page has already been generated), so you don't need to apply it to each page.

     

    Regards,

    Randy

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    22. Aug 4, 2010 1:49 PM (in response to Randy Edmunds)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Thanx, I wasn't familiar with DTSS, that indeed should solve the problem. But the issue doesn't appear in CS4: same site in CS4 doesn't have the problem.

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    24. Aug 5, 2010 2:19 PM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I understand it is on the list at Adobe of bugs to be solved. I have made a DTSS and it it is a great solution. Just a pity it is necessary to make one at all :-). If you make one, take care to do it right so that the link won't be written in the source. The correct way to do it is described in Help.

  • tam4307 Calculating status... 5 posts since
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    25. Aug 11, 2010 2:12 PM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Please add me in as one more person experience this problem. I have been waiting on an Adobe fix for it but nothing yet. Thanks to the forum people for putting up a work around. I don't know how long it would have taken me to figure that out. I have been working in code view on my sites with this issue and am glad to not be forced to do that. Some things I am just more comfortable with in design view.

     

    Tammie

  • dledet1 Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    26. Dec 7, 2010 1:26 PM (in response to tam4307)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Hi,

     

    I'm having problem as well in CS5 where the overflow:auto doesn't allow for editing with the editable regions of the DW template. However, is there a substitute for overflow:auto? It appears that, in my case, it's necessary for design purposes and cannot be commented out.

     

    Has anyone found a workaround solution for overflow:auto working with the editable region of the template? Thanks for the discussion!

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    27. Dec 7, 2010 2:07 PM (in response to dledet1)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Did you try the Design Time Style Sheet as described above, this way you don't need to comment out the overflow.

  • dledet1 User 2 posts since
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    28. Dec 7, 2010 2:49 PM (in response to Efdewa)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    That worked. Thank you!

  • mufobarinus Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    29. Mar 2, 2011 3:11 AM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Right after updating to CS5 (yes I'm a late updater) I ran into this issue with the very first thing I ever did in Dreamweaver CS5.

     

    As a workaround, okay, Design time stylesheets work.

     

    But the bug should still be fixed. I've been using Dreamweaver ever since Version 2. Apart from other things it's supposed to be a tool that offers controlled visual web editing via templates and editable areas. In the past that worked (at whatever level the software and web techniques where) with code as is, just add your editable areas to the template.

     

    Now it's a tool that can offer visual editing if you add a special stylesheet to your sites. It didn't need that before and it's just one more step that's unnecessary. Technically  it's a minor gremlin but the effect on usability is terrible. How are you going to explain this to the kind of user who uses dreamweaver and types into editable areas precisely because he doesn't want to deal with the insides of the HTML code and relies on his web guy to set up the templates so that he as an editor can't break anything. Not good at all.

     

    Christian

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    30. Mar 2, 2011 3:46 AM (in response to mufobarinus)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I totally agree!!!

     

    Besides this bug there are two more I have to deal with (on Mac):

     

    1. After a click on a style in panel Styles all the styles disappear
    2. Panel Files always opens blank after opening Dw

     

    Nr. 2 is not new in CS5, hope the other ones mentioned will not be staying as well.

  • tam4307 User 5 posts since
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    32. Mar 2, 2011 8:35 AM (in response to mufobarinus)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    I am shocked that after this many months they haven't fixed the issue. I am not sure how they plan on keeping brand loyalty when we who buy the product feel like they could care less if we are satisfied with it.

     

    Tammie O'Neal

  • Efdewa User 16 posts since
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    34. Mar 6, 2011 3:06 PM (in response to JulesN)
    Re: Template problem with cs5

    Yes, Jules, that indeed is the solution, no more blank panels, very happy with this, thanks!!!

     

    Cheers,

    Frances

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