Hi,

Who here's going to the CS5 thing on April 12? I assume I got invited because of this thread.

Don't know if you can see this - taken from my email - guess its the new CS with the new Dreamweaver. If you can see it, sign up.

http://csbuzz.adobe.com/?trackingid=FDKPN

Yes.  Yes, I think GoLive deserves another incarnation.

I manage many sites and use GoLive cs2.  It's so easy to use and surprisingly productive.  I appreciate the built-in warnings and extra information, as one user here mentioned, the red broken link bug.  Oh, that's a Wonderful Asset!  And that's just the tip of the iceberg as far as features in GoLive CS2.

I used Dreamweaver briefly, for about a week.  It was too clunky after the ease of GoLive.  I need to get the work done.

When I first saw Adobe pushing the idea "How to change your GoLive website to Dreamweaver" I was sickened.  No, no no no.

Love GoLive's whip select.  Lends to the program's sleek interface.  Why hadn't anyone else thought of this?  Is the whip a feature designed by the Original German developer?  Those Germans.

since Adobe doesn't want the program anymore and won't support their GoLive Customers they may as well set it free.  Or allow another company to develop it to its full potential.

Not bashing Dreamweaver but there was a reason it was always the cheaper program.

-- Please don't bother telling me the same things I read above. I know a good thing when I use it.

BTW You can buy GoLive CS2 online for about 50, with prices ranging up to and over $200.

Message was edited by: summer1934:  Other web editing programs I have used: a heavily-tweaked version of HomeSite in the late 90s, Joomla (very frustrating), FrontPage, but just once (oh dear!  messy!).  Throughout this time I learned Photoshop, so was ultimately attracted to GoLive for its Photoshop integration, and never looked back.

People... don't worry. I have been in front of a Mac since 1987. When the Mac started taking off everyone thought that designers would be obsolete because everyone would be able to do their own design.Well, unfortunately (or fortunately for us designers) it didn't have a Graphic Designer button included. So, people started doing their own things, or getting their secretaries to do them, and realizing that it was ugly as sin. The same thing has happened with the Web. A lot of the sites on the Internet are ugly as sin because they are just horrible. That's OK. My clients come to me because that is what they don't want. They still want the custom design and the pampering I give them. That is what they are paying for.

If Adobe is finally making Dreamweaver more user friendly, I welcome it. That is why I wouldn't use it. It has always had that webmaster feel to it. Not a program for designers.

Obviously actually Golive don't have any competitor in it's category, so

it's really kitty to say "go and and use an other web app." Is there any that could use adobe files as components?... comon...

So, first at all I had to change over a new machine with Win7 64 bit and so that Golive 9 had serious problem with refreshing windows.

24 hours of to build my own bug fix for golive... I gonna publish it soon, otherwise you can still install a VM on top of win 7.

However, my first tip is to build URGENTLY a website with all the work done to our days, unfortunately Adobe Exchange is not anymore available for Golive. And without it Golive is absolutely going to it's end because people don't have any support.

http://www.golivecentral.com/ is powered by only a man, it's obviously not enough and if you really wan't do something, then help this man to update the site or better, write new actions and extensions... I see only people asking to revive Golive... you can revive it starting writing new stuff.

Oh yes indeed! The best web dev app EVER - and Macromedia's offering only beat it in sales, not capability (shame is - that was enough).

MJVNYCMJV wrote:

 

Adobe seems to buy and then ruin and or discontinue one program after the other.

I agree. I really really hate that they killed off PageMill because they acquired GoLive. And look at PageMaker. RIP old friend! Everyone I know thinks PageMaker is miles ahead of InDesign.

MJVNYCMJV wrote:

...can someone please recommend something else that is easy to use?

Scroll up. Read this 3-page discussion. There are links and references to many options.

MJVNYCMJV wrote:

 

PS, the absurdity of the Adobe staff here

You might find great benefit to reading and comprehending a discussion prior to replying to it. There have not been any Adobe staff here.

Sure. I'll take that bet, even from an apparent troll like yourself.

GoLive is dead in the eyes of Adobe. They no longer sell it or support it. There's no reason why Adobe staff would be here except to usher people to another Adobe product such as DW. As MJVNYCMJV is likely assuming that I am Adobe staff, I suggest you find posts where I try to sell DW. Prepare to be disappointed in yourself and your bizarre accusations.

MJVNYCMJV thought there are only two options but left out the most obvious third option: Keep using the version of GoLive we already have.

This forum can degenerate into insane accusations or we can discuss the use of GoLive. What are you here for? Where are the points you have received for your helpful posts?

Let's grow up.

Not appreciated? - more like water in a desert! Like you, I've been deeply saddened by the soulless and arrogant, albeit educated, drivel that daily manifests in this thread and concerned for the well-being of those that proselytize it.

I still use Golive to manage my sites. The Golive little bug makes all the difference to me. I can visually see if I have any broken links. That is something I have not been able to live without.

Another feature I can't live without is the fact that you can go inside folders. Dreamweaver opens them in a hierarchy mode displaying everything at once. Golive allowed you to double click a folder and go inside that folder. When you have a large site that has a lot of smaller sites within it, with many index.html files it makes it much simpler to manage. I want to make sure that I don't overide the wrong document. I know that I could use the put and get buttons, but I like to do things manually. I trust it much more.

I also liked having the separate folders to organize everything in and having a site trash. If I ever threw out a wrong file, it was still there and I could retreive it.

I don't know if they have done these things to Dreamweaver CS5. I haven't seen it yet. I am going to donwload the trial to see what it is like.

It doesn't make any sense to think that you must upgrade to Windows 7 (I cannot confirm or deny that CS2 works in Windows 7).  No one is holding a gun to your head to upgrade Windows. If you are so dependent on GoLive, you can hang on to your old computer to keep it running. XP is not dead.

Even CS5 is  compatible with XP.

I use CS2 in XP,  Vista, and Tiger. Sometimes I run XP as a virtual machine in Linux. Someone else here claimed that they run CS2 directly in Linux via Wine. Some versions of Windows 7 include a XP VM built-in! If you don't have the higher-end versions of Windows 7, you can use a free VM like VMWare Player or VirtualBox to keep running XP forever.

I never suggested you were a troll. You are consistently confused in the two posts you've made here but you are certainly no troll.

GoLive does NOT work with Windows 7. In fact CS2 does not work with Windows 7, and neither does any of my software programs. It's an absolute nightmare. I bought a great new computer with Windows 7 home pro pre-installed, then quickly upgraded to the pro edition so I could run it in XP Mode. Windows 7 would not accept the Adobe software, and then ADOBE would not recognize my registrations numbers and product ID numbers when it was running on the 7 platform. There is a special folder you have to make to install it, and since I am not "geeky" I called in an expert for help.

He has been here three times and spent three days trying to get my CS2 and Macromedia Studio 8 working. Finally, he got it running in XP mode....EXCEPT running Windows 7 in XP mode only allows for 512mb or Ram, even though my computer has 6 gig avaialble. So running two programs (or more) on 7 causes freeze-ups and let me tell you, unless you are super-geek and have the Geek-God's approval, don't upgrade to Windows 7 if you plan to use any Adobe products. I've read that people are having the same problems with CS4, but I don't know about CS5.

In fact, I tried to load some other programs, a CD burning one I prefer to use, and Windows 7 refused it. It had refused ALL of my current programs I have tried to load, so other than surfing the net, it's been useless for me so far.

I may purchase a copy of XP and dump 7, the only reason I haven't so far is because I know the technology is moving forward, but it won't do me any good if I can't update my client's websites from my computer because someone "up there" decided to play incompatible.

~Zip wrote:

 

...only allows for 512mb or Ram.

That's a VM setting that can be changed. You may look to another expert for help.

And if Windows 7's own VM for XP is not working the way you like, you can use the free VMWare Player or VirtualBox to run XP.

I have been following this thread since I commented that I still use GoLive and wish there would be some way to have Adobe quit pushing the Dreamweaver and other products as superior.

First request is for this to stay on topic and quit the name calling- trolls or whatever.

Second item is the discussion that GoLive does and will not run on a Windows 7 computer- this is just plain wrong. I have a newer Windows 7 laptop that I have successfully installed the GoLive CS2 (8.01 version after checking online for updates) and it is running the same as it does on a Windows XP computer. There are only 2 issues that I have run into- first is the Adobe request each time the software started up after first being installed asking to register the software. I posted a thread on this in these forums  and even called Adobe Technical Support to see if they had ideas on getting this to stop. I reading though a number of other discussions on various Adobe Software (not just GoLive) this is a Windows 7 UAC - User Access Control issue. If you run the software as administrator then it will save the registration info and quit asking each and every time the software is launched. I am happy that there are these forums for open discussion, so that issues like this can be shared among the community when Adobe Tech Support will not even answer what turned out to be a simple question like the registration suppression issue.

The second issue on the GoLive CS2 is with the Windows 7 display and Aero support. Since GoLive was long before the Vista and the first OS with support for Areo it will launch the software and Windows reports it is in Basic color scheme video mode. This runs in this mode until the GoLive Software is closed and then returns to the more advanced Aero Display Mode. I am not running the software in Windows XP compatibility mode, using any sort of Windows XP virtual machine (though The Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate both allow this under their licensing), just installed the original CD, activatated the software and started using it the same way I was under older Win XP computer systems. For those that are struggling on their own in trying to get Windows 7 computers to launch and run GoLive there should be a way for it to work and more details on what issues or errors you are encountering maybe could be posted in a new thread for sharing of GoLive under Windows 7. I however do not use each and every advanced feature of GoLive either.

Unfortunately as for the issue of Adobe starting up development (or even continuing to offer any tech support) of the GoLive software- probably will not happen. Only way their would be any new versions is if the code is put out in the Open Source Developers hands and offered up as some software that other software developers that have abandoned to the various packages and been generious enough to allow the software to be moved to the Open Source Community model. With Adobe they may though in fact think that this will in fact dip into their sales of Dreamweaver (I do not think it would as there are many other free open source html and website design packages out there now competing with the likes of Dreamweaver.)