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CS5 - Title = Wrong Aspect Ratio!

Jun 5, 2010 8:14 PM

Over here at the end http://forums.adobe.com/thread/652694?tstart=0 I was given ideas about converting AVCHD to AVI

 

That works great... EXCEPT

 

If I have only video the idea to cut 8 pixels from top and bottom works perfectly..,. the output AVI fills a widescreen DVD just right

 

HOWEVER

 

If I add a Title (with the correct size of 1920x1080 PAR 1) and export to AVI... the video that plays from a DVD at my TV does NOT fill the screen, it has bars on either side... not just the title, the entire video

 

Any ideas?

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  • John T Smith
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    1. John T Smith,
    Jun 6, 2010 7:41 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    I've now done this twice (blanks are cheap, but I'm going to have to buy some RW's for this testing) and both time, I create a "roll" title that IS the correct size for the project... and when I export, the entire output has LARGE black borders on both sides

     

    I'm not finding anything in help/pdf to give me a clue... anyone have any ideas?

     
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    2. Colin Brougham,
    Jun 6, 2010 7:49 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    John,

     

    Check that your DVD player output is setup properly to show FHA (full-height anamorphic) DVDs. It will really depend on what format your TV is. Most DVD players have the option for 4:3 full-screen, 4:3 letterbox, and 16:9 full-screen. You may have it set to 4:3 full-screen and have a 16:9 TV. Additionally, many DVD players have (I find) annoying "zoom" or "scale" functions that can be inadvertently set, which will distort playback.

     

    Also, be sure that when you bring your assets into Encore, that the properties panel for that particular asset shows as 16:9, and not 4:3--Encore seems to have difficulty with some frame sizes.

     
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    3. John T Smith,
    Jun 6, 2010 8:00 AM   in reply to Colin Brougham
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    I am about 99.9% sure the problem is not my player (which goes to a Sony projector to a 93" screen)

     

    If I create my project with NO titles, and do the process of shaving 8 pixels off top and bottom and scale to fit the output, the resulting DVD plays perfectly in my movie room... no bars and fills the entire screen

     

    Add a rolling title, same export settings, and the exported AVI shows the large black bars on either side when played on my computer, and when authored with Encore (since Encore is just using what it is given)

     

    There is something about a rolling "screen credits" type title that is not working when shaving/scaling to fit a widescreen project

     

    I'm going to go in a bit and create a new project and create a "static" title to see if that works, since my thought now is that a rolling title, since it is designed to scroll from "below" the screen to "above" the screen... may not be processed when shaving a few pixels off the top and bottom (good thing I'm doing all this testing with sample files... no deadline here, just learning)

     
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    4. Colin Brougham,
    Jun 6, 2010 8:25 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    I am about 99.9% sure the problem is not my player (which goes to a Sony projector to a 93" screen)

     

    If I create my project with NO titles, and do the process of shaving 8 pixels off top and bottom and scale to fit the output, the resulting DVD plays perfectly in my movie room... no bars and fills the entire screen

    I think you're probably right; I misread the part about you saying that it displayed properly sans title.

    Add a rolling title, same export settings, and the exported AVI shows the large black bars on either side when played on my computer, and when authored with Encore (since Encore is just using what it is given)

    In regard to the black bars: do they squeeze in the video, so that it's horizontally squished, or do they just cover the sides of the video so that the part that does show is the correct aspect ratio?

    There is something about a rolling "screen credits" type title that is not working when shaving/scaling to fit a widescreen project

    Indeed, but why the AVI reacts that way is strange. All I can figure is that something is amiss in your export settings--AME will eat what it's given.

     
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    5. John T Smith,
    Jun 6, 2010 10:03 AM   in reply to Colin Brougham
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    Further testing (viewed output on my computer, will go upstairs to movie room later... but I doubt it will be different)

     

    This test was with a STATIC title instead of a rolling title

     

    No title at all... DV Widescreen output has "narrow" back bars on each side, cropping 8 from top and bottom and scale to fit results in a video that fills the screen

     

    Static title... DV Widescreen output has "narrow" back bars on each side, cropping 8 from top and bottom and scale to fit results in a video that has "wide" black bars on each side

     

    As I said... I need to play the DVD to my projector to be sure, but there seems to be "something" about the 8+8 cropping and scale to fit that does not work if there is either a static or rolling title

     

    The video and 8+8 cropping and scale to fit settings are the same... no title = crop + scale to fit works as it should... any title and it doesn't work right

     

    Since there are times I do need a title, I think I will just live with the narrow black bars on each side when going from AVCHD to DV Widescreen

     
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    Jun 6, 2010 12:05 PM   in reply to John T Smith
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    Back again after playing the DVD on a real player... same result

     

    The video with title and going straight to an NTSC DV Widescreen output plays with "narrow" black bars on each side

     

    The same video using 8+8 top/bottom cropping and scale to fit results in "wide" black bars on each side

     

    I don't know if this is a CS5 bug or "feature" but I did make a report to https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

     

    Since I can live with the narrow black bands, I now know to just export from AVCHD "as-is" to a Widescreen AVI to feed Encore (I haven't tried Dynamic Link yet... may do that another day)

     

    Now... off to have the wife "arrange" the individual rooms the way she wants and more filming so I can force let my out of town relatives see a home movie of where we live

     

    Later, when the weather is nice, I'll go film a friend's soccer game to see how rapid movement comes out on a DVD from AVCHD source

     
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