Abes,

With this footage on the Timeline, is there a red, a green or a yellow line above the Timeline? How is playback when you hit Enter, to Render it? Yellow will indicate that you have a mis-match between your footage and your Project/Sequence Preset.

Also, check your Hardware Acceleration settings. If min, try max. If max, try min. If you get an improvement, test by incrementing up, or down, until you get problems and then go back one increment.

Check your OpenGL settings, and test.

You've got the very latest ATI driver, right?

God luck,

Hunt

Well, at this point, I am out of ideas. You should NOT need any additional CODEC's with that footage. I am also a big fan of not installing any CODEC's (especially any "packs") that are not needed. Then, I will install just the one(s) that I need and try to go to the source for those, even if they cost $, and similar are free. I agree with what you have done so far.

Now, for playback of non-AVCHD footage, the I/O sub-system is highly important, but IIRC your I/O on this machine (3x HDD's allocated well), that should not be an issue.

Maybe others will spot something important that I am missing. Here's hoping.

Good luck,

Hunt

Ok... card worked on "old setup" but not on Win7

My GUESS is that the vendor needs to update their device driver

Note that this happens every time Windoze (or Apple Mac!) comes out with a new OS... it takes the hardware and software vendors "some" amount of time to issue updates... and some never do for old products, they just develop new products

Hi

Saw your thread post on the Adobe Premiere Forum  - whilst searching for inspiration on almost exact same scenario I have.

I have upgraded to CS4 and Win 7 64 bit / i7 processor - new AVCHD camera.

On Win 7 64 bit and ATI Radeon 5750 card - performance is horrible

Same as you - if I enlarge program window playback - it looks like 5 frames per second

Has your setup totally stablised OK now with your new Graphics card?

Maybe I will have to return the ATI card ?? - I'm more or less convinced it is my Radeon 5750 causing the problem.

I found that CS4 can run AVCHD on my Win XP computer (Intel Dual Core) without these issues (Radeon 1950 graphics).
render to Blu ray takes a long time though - hence reason to go Win 7 / i7 CPU Quad core.....

Seems quite a few people have same issues.........

Regards

Nigel

Thx Hunt

No chance of chucking the card (not at £150) - I want to get to the bottom of this with Adobe Support.

Have tried nearly everything suggested on the Forums now.

I'm convinced this is a SW issue and not a configuration issue.

If anyone has the Radeon 5750 card working 100% with Win 7 64 Bit on Premiere CS4 please tell me the magic formula

Thx

Nigel

I'm convinced this is a SW issue and not a configuration issue.

I'm convinced of the contrary. I have to trouble with 4 tracks of AVCHD 29.97i, XDCAM-EX 25i and HVD 25i intermixed on the same time line, with multiple effects like 3-way CC, Gaussian blur, tint, motion/scale/position and opacity effects and some others, plus a number of transitions in one time line to play back smoothly without rendering. Even when these effects are keyframed with bezier curves. Fast scrolling is no problem either. All with previews set to high quality. And my video card is only a HD4870.

The Tiffs are 1280x720 24 bit with alpha along with it. I however have told PP to ignore the alpha channel. Yes I have red lines and yellow ones and I have made aboslutely certain that the project is configured precisely to my HD format. My system is a BOXX Dual Core Dula processor ADM 1.8ghz with 8 gig of RAM and a raided drive of half a terrabyte. in other words two 500gig drives (WDC WD2500) seen as one 500gig drive within windows XP pro x64. Nvidia Quadro FX 1500 card. It has the latest driver dated 1/26/2010 and is 6.14.11.9187 Presets 1280x720 Progressive scan, Video preview as default Microsoft AVI Codec: DV 24p advanced

is that it ?

hope so and thanks for responding

Of course, when I typed:

I have to trouble

I meant NO trouble. Sorry. Probably fatigue, a lousy keyboard that I need to exchange, and the stupid thing that often my thoughts are faster than my typing, so I have a tendency to skip typing words that were in my mind, but not in the post.

Nigel, you may have seen it before, but this third guide here also applies to Win7, at least for the majority.

How to get the best from a PC? Some guides...

Thanks everyone for pitching in. I didnt reply sooner because my deadline was

pressing hard. Finally managed to create output with CS4

. Also found that the reason my old PP1.5 was crashing was because I was trying to load a project that had already been saved out by me in CS4 What an idiot LOL I put it down to pressure.

But, on to the meat of the issue. First, in answer to an earlier question, yes once i have rendered a preview my monitor scrubs and plays properly however, Its totaly counter intuative to the way one edits a movie. the whole pre-rendering twaddle interferes with the creative process in my opinion. In PP1.5 even if sometimes a little scratchy a simple cross or additive dissolve would preview perfectly fine. This meant that the software didnt encroach upon what should be a transparent to the editor process. I come from 16 and 35mm film and video as a background and of course this stuff has come a long way since then, Im talking 1969 by the way.

But surely in so many ways PP CS4 is almost a monster step backwards. 

If basic footage needs pre-rendering to work well in the time line, why isnt that an option at import time ?  Then at least dissolves and the like would be the only thing the processors need to worry about if the basic image blitting to screen has been taken care of by what I imagine is some kind of proxy.

OK thats my 4 penneth as they say in my mother blighty.

regards Paul C Buckland

This is so weird. Of course I have the previous generation ATI HD4870, but use the same 10.3 driver and have never experienced your problem. Now, there were problems with the 5xxx and the 10.2 driver, which was corrected with a hot patch.

Can you run Process Explorer with the 5750 card installed, set it to allways on top and then try to play back your time line and identify all the processes that use the CPU during playback. Also, turn on the View system information and tell your CPU utilization during playback. If you post a screenshot from this info during playback, maybe we can see what is hampering a fluid playback.

Thanks Hunt

I have filed a bug report on this, as you suggest.

By the way - I tried using the Grass Valley Neo 2 booster edit SW that came with the Panasonic camera - before I took out the ATI Radeon card.

This worked perfectly editing AVCHD material with the Radeon card - so definitely some combination of CS4 and this ATI Graphics driver under Win 7 64 bit.

Regards

Nigel

Just want to throw in my experience. I had:

Win 7 64bit OS

Nvidia 6800 GT video card

4 gigs RAM,

Dual Core E 6750 CPU

Premeire Pro CS4

Everything worked fine until I upgraded to an ATI 5770 card last week. Playback is completely unuseable. I have upgraded to current drivers, no improvement. This is the identical problem others are describing. Sounds like I need to go back to NVIDIA!  Loading projects that ran fine before produces extreme jerkiness. Perhaps one frame every 5 to 10 seconds! YEOW!

Yes - confirms my concern about the ATI 57XX series Win 7 64 bit and Premiere CS4 combination

Waiting for Adobe Tech support to respond to my request in bug report which I filed, me but heard nothing.

Cannot address the ATI Catalyst, but not that long ago, a series of nVidia drivers had two gamer-only modules, that installed by default and turned ON - PhysX and 3D Stereovision. The trick with those was to just disable those two modules. It appears that later nVidia drivers have either fixed the interaction between those two modules and Adobe programs, or now they default to OFF. Probably something similar, but I have no clue what it might be.

Good luck,

Hunt

I'm having a similiar problem as well.  I have a brand new i7 960 3.2ghz computer 6gb ram, 1.5tb 7200rpm HD, ati hd5600gpu.  I have premiere installed and what ever video I import it'll play perfectly smooth, even unrendered except every few seconds it'll jerk. This also happens even after a preview renders Almost like it's reapeating 3 frames over every 5 to 10 seconds.  It's ever so slight, but i cant seem to get rid of it.  It'll scrub fine but no matter where i play the clip, timeline, monotior 1 or 2 it'll behave the same.  Play perfectly smooth but every 5 to 10 seconds have a micro stutter  However this doesn't affect the final export, only during the editing session.  I've tried different drivers and settings but nothing seems to help.  Anyone ever have this problem?  Thanks.

1.5tb 7200rpm HD

Is that all? Minimum requirements state a DEDICATED 7200 RPM disk and that is absolutely minimum. For normal editing at least 3 SATA disks are required.

Harm Millaard wrote:

 

1.5tb 7200rpm HD

 

Is that all? Minimum requirements state a DEDICATED 7200 RPM disk and that is absolutely minimum. For normal editing at least 3 SATA disks are required.

Harm,  I also have another 2tb 7200 rpm and a 500gb 7200 drive but I don't use it with Premiere.  I was not aware 3 drives were minium for Premiere.  I'm not a professional or editing a feature length film and Premier ran fine on my 4 year old core 2 laptop with a single 500gb drive.  Rendering times were a pain in the butt, but it worked.  Crashed sometimes but never had any playback problems.  Regardless I'm pretty sure it's a software issue. I could be worng though.  Thanks.

I do hope that your two larger drives are not "Green" drives.

Hmmm the last post in this thread is from April! I bumped into it by accident searching to play back my cs4 pp time line on the tv as well as on the program monitor. In Cs 2 I could see how to direct the output set up (I think in Preference)

But this thread is depicting my problem as well! My display card is a Raedon X300/X550/x1050 (at least this is what I see under Display info (all this is a little much for me!). Perhaps by now all concerned would know if I need to change my card and for which one.  I also just checked my older pc for which I had to buy a new card as I used its for the new MB upgrade on my newer pc - unfortunately it's exactly the same!

I was under the impression just for video editing I did not need one of those super card designed for games. Thank you for any advices.

Thank you for this I'll have to try one of this two options then and of course the update first

Hello

There is a bug in the ATI Catalyst drivers. This bug somehow makes the preview video window in PREMIERE CS4 play very laggy. This problem started to appear after the Catalyst 9.11 driver versions. Please note that the 9.12 driver was released in december last year. So yes, this bug has been present for 9 months with many users complaining about it. Unfortunately ATI so far has been reluctant to fix this.

I guess the only way to have this fixed is to keep sending reports to ATI / AMD and keep posting on their forums:

http://www.amdsurveys.com/se.ashx?s=5A1E27D27E29B0E3

http://forums.amd.com/game/categories.cfm?catid=279

And of course my personal lesson is to avoid ATI cards in the future.