20,956 posts 
Dec 23, 2006
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When someone posts on here and they steal the software: it is on. The buttheads deserve to be attacked.
This forum has really toned down since the new board software came into town. A lot of real pro's, people who eat and breathe Photoshop, left in droves never to be seen again. Other then Lawrence beating me up once in a while for my spelling errors (
) this place is really calm now. Not like the good ole days that John already pointed out. For the most part some people have locked horns and moved on to the next subject. Nobody lost a eye and there were no animals injured.
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Unfortunately, that sends an email to the offending user, letting them know they're getting under someone's skin, which is exactly the opposite of how it should be...
J,
Not quite sure that I agree with you here. If a person is being abusive, or is accused of being so, maybe a bit of a "nudge" will get their attention? It would with me.
Over the decades, I have observed many great contributors, who, for whatever reason, has limited "people skills." They did solve issues quickly, and did provide tips on how to do a particular operation, but did so in an abrasive way. Hey, that is why T/S and C/S are never invited to the Official Adobe Picnic at the same time - different jobs, requiring different skills.
Some people know the subject better than almost everyone else, while some great teachers, might not be blessed with that infinite knowledge. Who is the better? Only the poster can make that distinction.
Now, if one knows the product intimately, maybe all they need is a bit of a critique on presenting that knowledge in a most useful manner. One would never want to loose an expert, or at least they should not. OTOH, maybe the forum would be best served, if they made a few modifications in their delivery.
If I became aware that I was doing something wrong in my replies to posters, I would want to know. I would then work to make necessary changes, what ever they might be. Along those very lines, I have been contacted on a food/wine board, by some MOD's, with issues. Most are "bogus," in my eyes, but a very few have made an impression, and I have altered a few habits. I have learned a few things. Though I might not agree with every complaint, I appreciate the critique. Even when I feel 100% confident that I followed every guideline, I review all posts to that thread. Maybe I was too deeply into my evening wine tastings?
Though I might disagree with you on this particular subject, I still respect your contributions and toast your knowledge and the help that you have supplied to so many PS users. That is what it should be about.
Hunt
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Noel, your analogy assumes that the chocolate cookie of an oreo is in some way, superior to the creme, and therefore inappropriately depicted as the positive.
I submit to you the fact that Nabisco doesn't make "Double Cookie Oreos" but instead, "Double STUFF (creme) Oreos". We all know which part of the Oreo is most delicious.
I rest my case.
....now where can I find some Oreos?
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20,956 posts
Dec 23, 2006function(){return A.apply(null,[this].concat($A(arguments)))}
TLL... wrote:
"A lot of real pro's, people who eat and breathe Photoshop, left in droves never to be seen again."Where did they go?
And pertinently, why did they go?
- Did they leave because they stopped learning new things? One can certainly become burned out with helping people who have very basic problems and need to update their video drivers or who don't know what a layer is.
- Did they leave because they found it continually irritating to argue with other people who were intolerant of others' viewpoints? Perhaps they expected to earn some respect rather than having to endure ongoing bickering.
- Did they leave because there's another place that's just better to be at? One perhaps without brain-damaged forum software that challenges one to express oneself in the most basic manner?
On this last point I must say (other than the Jive software) it would surprise me to find another forum in which product engineers participate actively, lots of smart experts contribute, and one gets to help people freely. Personally, I like it here.
-Noel
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Yes, so true!
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