Aug 23, 2010 9:59 AM
Rollover Slidelet Issue
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Hi,
If you click on the Rollover Slidelet->Go to the PI->And set the "Stick Slidelet" to ON, then on clicking the Rollover Slidelet, the slidelet comes up and if you want to close it, you could click on this "X" button.If this cross is overlapping your area, increase the dimensions on the slidelet.
Thanks,
Sikandar
Hi Morton
I see Sikandar explained why you see the X. What wasn't explained was that you have no means of suppressing it.
I've seen many others ask if there is a way to prevent the X from appearing. Unfortunately at present there is no way I'm aware of.
If you would like to add your voice to those that would love to see Adobe give us an option for controlling whether we see the X or not, please consider submitting a Wish Form to ask for the ability. (Link is in my sig)
Cheers... Rick ![]()
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Morton,
Rick is right, unfortunately there is no way of suppressing the "x" icon:(.
Thanks,
Sikandar
Rick & Sikandar,
What good is a Rollover Slidelet if you can't use it in a simulation? I'm surprised Adobe programmers have not fixed this yet. This is a serious weakness in the application.
This would be so easy to fix! Why can't Adobe developers give us a Hotspot object that uses a mouse-on/mouse-off action to display/hide an image, and when the hotspot status is mouse-on, enable Click-Box-type actions to jump to another scene or whatever.
Morton Redner
Hi Rick,
I have used other simulation tools in the past. The best one I ever used was DemoShield from InstallShield Corp. Unfortunately, DemoShield never got past bitmap technology and quickly lost out to Flash, which as you know is also built into Captivate SWF files. But here's one important thing you could do in DemoShield:
Suppose you want this to happen when your viewer rolls over a hotspot:
1) An image appears. It is not only an image but also a hotspot.
2) When the image is visible the viewer can click the image to perform some action, either in the same slide or jump to another slide.
You may think you can create this effect with a Rollover Slidelet, but you can't. This is one of the most important effects you can use in building simulations, yet you still can't do this in Captivate. I first noticed this flaw in Captivate 4. I'm astonished to find Adobe developers still ignoring this issue. As a highly experienced developer of simulations, I consider this more than just a feature for a wish list. I consider it a bug.
I will gladly discuss this issue in detail. Feel free to contact me.
Morton Redner
(805) 584-1321
I made a small project that shows the difference between a normal and a sticky slidelet. It shows exactly what's the problem with the closebox. In the example you can also see what happens when you add an animation to a slidelet.
http://www.dorna.nl/?p=428#more-428
Of course a alse made a bug-report to Adobe.
Hi Chris
Couple of things here.
You may want to correct a typo on your page:
The verbiage you are using in the second example is suggesting that there is a bug with the slidelet. I'm not sure I'd classify the second "sticky" example as a real issue. It may not be the behavior some would like to see, but it's certainly behaving as I've always known Slidelets to behave.
Here's the deal. Let's examine the word slidelet. Sort of implies a "mini slide" doesn't it? Certainly we are able to insert Buttons or Click Boxes (or even Text Entry Boxes) on regular slides to keep them paused indefinitely. But we can't insert such objects inside a Slidelet. I'm unsure of the technical reasons why, but the fact is we just can't. At least at the present version 5. The slidelet was timed to present for five seconds. It is doing exactly that. The presentation doesn't care if the mouse is hovering the slidelet to keep it visible or if it has been clicked to keep it visible. It just has the "self destruct" timer set for five seconds. Fortunately you are able to adjust the timing to be what you want. You could make it 60 or 90 seconds if you like. And if you did that, it might provide the illusion that it is remaining on the screen indefinitely.
In that case, the close box would make total sense. They may interact with the slidelet areafor perhaps 20 seconds, then wish to dismiss the slidelet.
I'm not sure what you are saying about the animations.
Cheers... Rick ![]()
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Chris,
I can't tell if we're talking about exactly the same issue. But I have created:
A slide with a timing of 999 seconds, and
A rollover slidelet that pops up a text caption.
The text caption stays onscreen for as long as you hover over the slidelet hotspot! The moment you move the mouse off the slidelet hotspot the text caption disappears.
The attached Word document will show you all the settings I entered. Tell me if we're talking about the same thing here. If we are, give it a try. See if it works.
Best regards,
Morton Redner
Hi Rick,
I can't tell if we're talking about exactly the same issue. But I have created:
A slide with a timing of 999 seconds, and
A rollover slidelet that pops up a text caption.
The text caption stays onscreen for as long as you hover over the slidelet hotspot! The moment you move the mouse off the slidelet hotspot the text caption disappears.
The attached Word document will show you all the settings I entered. Tell me if we're talking about the same thing here. If we are, give it a try. See if it works.
Best regards,
Morton Redner
(805) 584-1321
Hello,
You cannot attach files anymore to postings. Please use the small still camera button to insert screenshots.
Lilybiri
Adobe just emailed to tell me attachments to the Forum are lost. So I'm sending the settings as text:
SLIDE
TIMELINE 999 seconds
ROLLOVER SLIDELET
SLIDELET TIMING 999 seconds
ACTION No Action
ON ROLLOVER Show (name of) Rollover Slidelet
TIMING Display for rest of slide
APPEAR AFTER 0 sec
HOVER DELAY 0.1 sec
TRANSITION No Transition
TEXT CAPTION
VISIBLE Yes
TIMING Display for: Rest of slidelet Appear After: 0 sec
TRANSITION No Transition
Adobe just emailed to tell me attachments to the Forum are lost. So I'm sending the settings as text:
SLIDE
TIMELINE 999 seconds
ROLLOVER SLIDELET
SLIDELET TIMING 999 seconds
ACTION No Action
ON ROLLOVER Show (name of) Rollover Slidelet
TIMING Display for rest of slide
APPEAR AFTER 0 sec
HOVER DELAY 0.1 sec
TRANSITION No Transition
TEXT CAPTION
VISIBLE Yes
TIMING Display for: Rest of slidelet Appear After: 0 sec
TRANSITION No Transition
Hi Morton
If you want to send me the Word document I'll be happy to make it available.
There should be no need to ever make a slide as long as you have (999 seconds) not sure why you made it that long. Remember, Buttons and Click Boxes will pause a slide until your user commands it to move. I sense you timed it that long because you wanted the rollover to remain visible? Not sure. If you want the rollover to remain visible, you could have the slide timed for 3 seconds and pausing at 1.5. Then just use a rollover image.
Cheers... Rick ![]()
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Hey Rick,
I understand what you're saying about buttons and click boxes. But in this case there will be no buttons or click boxes. I am redesigning my website and using Captivate to create a prototype that looks and works like the website I want. The web programmer will use this prototype to write the code. One slide is all I need. I want this slide to appear as if it is onscreen indefinitely. Like a web page, the slide will have links. When the viewer hovers over a link a text caption pops up.
Hi again Morton
Ummm, please excuse the post because I know it will sound a bit snarky regardless of how I word it. I just want you to know I'm really not trying to be snarky. OK?
Captivate was designed as a Software Demonstration, Simulation and eLearning platform. Your description of why you are presently frustreated seems to be that you are finding major faults with it because you are trying to use it for something which it was never intended. This is similar to purchasing a band saw, then later complaining because it doesn't neatly and efficiently slice through the patio paving stones that were purchased. ![]()
I understand that you don't wish to employ any Buttons or Click Boxes. But sometimes we have to employ a feature for a specific reason. In your case the reason would appear to be that you need the slide to just pause and wait for rollover interactions to occur. And if you use a Click Box, it will do exactly that. This is probably the very reason that the development team created one of the actions to be that of "no action" when clicked. So the only reason for having the Click Box would be to pause the movie when you want.
So you pause the slide with the Click Box, then have all the Rollover Captions or Rollover Images you want.
Cheers... Rick ![]()
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Rick,
Note the following email I received today which says you can't attach files to postings anymore:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: Lilybiri forums@adobe.com
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 12:43 PM
To: Morton Redner
Subject: Re: Rollover Slidelet Issue Rollover Slidelet Issue
Hello,
You cannot attach files anymore to postings. Please use the small still camera button to insert screenshots.
Lilybiri
Hi Morton
Well, the mail wasn't from Adobe. It was from another forum participant named Lilybiri. I believe her actual name is Lieve and she lives somewhere in Belgium. ![]()
Further, I'm a volunteer forum moderator. As a moderator, I have some capabilities others don't generally have. Such as posting an attachment. ![]()
Cheers... Rick ![]()
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Rick,
Ok, here's are my Captivate settings for that slide in a Word file.
Thanks,
Morton Redner
(805) 584-1321
I updated the example with the 'workarounds' for the unwanted closebox in a non-sticky Rollover Slidelet and the timing-issue on the sticky Rollover Slidelet (the 999 seconds solution): http://www.dorna.nl/?p=428#more-428
One way to get rid of the [X] button is to stretch your slidelet in width or height so that the [X] button is outside of the visible stage area.
That sounds interesting. I'll try it.
Thanks
Morty
You can also check out my widget HideSlideletClosebox (Cp5) from http://www.dorna.nl/?p=540
It's brand new, please let me know if it works...
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