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What do you think of Auto-keyframe mode?

Oct 10, 2010 9:22 PM

What do you think of Auto-keyframe mode?

 

Do you use it? If so, why? If not, why not?

 

John Dickinson covers this feature in this video tutorial and gives his opinion. I share John's opinion, but we want to know what others think.

 
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    Oct 10, 2010 3:24 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    I've never used it. But it seems like a good feature for new users and ones coming over from 3D apps (where all keyframes have to be expressly set, or use Auto Keyframe). It's my understanding that all it does is create the first keyframe for a user, then it behaves like normal AE keyframing for subsequent ones.

     
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    Oct 10, 2010 9:29 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    I used this feature for my last motion graphics project and I found that it was more of a hindrance than a help. I've used AE since CS3 and was used to making sure the keyframes went in where I wanted them to go. With Auto-keyframe mode I sometimes forget to turn it off and don't realize that I've set extra keyframes until thirty minutes after, making the elimination of extra keyframes harder to find. In theory it's good, but for users that have experience with setting their own keyframes, I don't think it is too helpful.

     
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    Oct 11, 2010 12:34 AM   in reply to johnbhartley

    I haven't upgraded to CS5 but looking at John Dickinson's video, it doesn't look particularly useful, even for beginners. I prefer the concept that I set keyframes when I choose, for the values I choose. I'd find it very frustrating to be playing around with an animation only to find keyframes have been set without my being aware of them if I'd turned on auto-keyframes. I don't see the practical difference of switching on auto-keyframes versus setting keyframes in the timeline (apart from the fact that auto-keyframes I guess would apply to any transformation regardless of whether or not you'd intended to keyframe them). So I doubt I'd be using the feature at all.

     
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    Oct 13, 2010 6:40 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    I've used it and found John's segment on it very very helpful.  However, I would tend to agree with some folks here, it seemed more or less like a hindrance than anything else.  I would rather have it process slower and truly allow exposure or level adjustments for better edge detection or place the footage in mode that was ripe for tracking.  I found the edge detection was not at a level that was usable, even though I could clearly see the area, not sure why AE couldn't stay on track.  Really needed to spend a lot of time tweaking.  It definitely works better with HD footage over SD.  I think this tool is in it's infancy and needs to mature before anyone can truly utilize it as that "Super Tool" which is basically how it was marketed for CS5, well that and 64bit.  Lastly, when I use and see tools like Mocha that can match move very very well, I don't understand why AE's built in tools don't meet that standard.  For match moving OR stabilization.  Just seems that at this level of product and maturity for AE, they'd be there by now.  I still love AE and am seeing fruit from my labors, but I do believe they should buckle down and make these tools work better, especially when the technology is clearly there and we see others doing so.


    Lastly, and I'm not one to preach..  At some point, when you continue to build on technology as Adobe has done with AE, since about ver. 6.5, new features, changed features on the same technology bed, there comes a time when you need to change the sheets.  Adobe clearly has done that, no doubt and I'm not complaining.  I do believe they are at a place now though where CS6 should have a new mattress.  So whether or not its a maturity model issue or not, I just don't think tools like these will continue to grow into these Must Have toolset's unless the new technology is adopted, out with the old in with the new type of thing and Adobe changes with it.  CS5 is a stacked version of CS4 with enhancements made to the current tools, and some additional tools like Auto-Keyframing/64-bit etc., but in reality, I'm just not feeling the love from the cost\benefit factor.

     

    Does anyone agree or disagree with me here?  I'm curios to know if I'm a little on/off or just way outside the target area.  Cheers..

     
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    Oct 13, 2010 8:54 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Lol..  Am I confusing Auto-Keyframe mode with the Rotobrush tool?  Sorry, I wrote that without my coffee this morning and I should have clicked on the link you provided in the first place.  Whatcanisay...  Sleeping behind the wheel.

     
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    Oct 13, 2010 9:54 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Seems like an unnecessary layer of complexity for new users, and for experienced AE users I see no need for it. Of course it's possible I just don't understand all its uses yet. I see it as a sort of global switch that turns on keyframing, that's all. But the one thing I expect it to do - set a keyframe when I enable it - it doesn't do. (as John pointed out in his excellent video)

     

    Thankfully it defaults to disabled so you never have to bother with it if you don't want to.

     
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    Nov 3, 2010 12:22 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    This is a necessary feature for someone used to Shake, where this is the default behaviour.

     
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