Is Adobe planning to allow Lightroom to upload directly to PS.com the same way that Elements does?
Or will Adobe create Lightroom.com for that purpose? (although apparently that url is taken)
The web section of Lightroom is limited to just creating simple Flash/Dreamweaver/Air web pages - which is nice. But it would be better if Lightroom users had an online database from which to display their pictures, backup their pictures and print their pictures professionally (with service that is better and more robust than Shutterfly).
If they did this, users would inevitably run out of space forcing them to buy additional server space from Adobe/upgrade their accounts - hint hint - seems like it might be a good revenue stream...
You might think so, but my guess is that Lightroom users have SO MUCH data to backup, doing so online would be sort of expensive, and the uptake low. There are indeed some things in the works for Lightroom customers, but it'll be a couple of months before you see anything there. In the meantime, if you are a Lightroom user, and you would be seriously interested in backing things up to Photoshop.com (or a Lightroom.com equivalent), I'd be interested to hear from you!
integration with lightroom seems the logical next step for me too. given that lightroom is adobe's specialist app for digital photographers and photoshop.com is an online photo sharing/management site, it surely makes more sense to push photoshop.com as an online extension of lightroom than it does to link it in the end-user's mind with photoshop, with which it shares very little in common, apart from a few of the editing tools.
in fact, i only rediscovered the site again today by accident, after signing up for an account w-a-y back in the photoshop express beta days, precisely because i'd obviously subconsciously filed photshop.com away in the nether recesses of my mind under 'underpowered online image editors', rather than 'somewhere i might want to go if and when i jump ship from flickr'. i already use lightroom to process 99% of the photographs i eventually upload to flickr anyway, so being able to interface directly with photoshop.com from within lightroom would be a godsend and more likely to make me switch from flickr to photoshop.com.
as albstar says, it's a pity the lightroom.com domain's already gone. i don't think the photoshop.com one is doing you any favours as regards selling what is potentially a really good web app to the public.
of course, all the above is based on my assumptions as to what adobe want photoshop.com to be. i'd like to know what the official position is. is photoshop.com intended to be a rival for flickr, picasa, smugmug et al. - only with better editing tools?, or is its primary purpose to provide free online image editing for those who can't afford photoshop? - in which case your rivals are sites like aviary, picnic etc.
if i might mix metaphors, i think that at the minute photoshop.com is falling between two stools and failing to register on either radar.
Request: Lightrom export to Photoshop.com plugin
A simple export plugin is all we need for now. There are exporters for every other service out there but for Adobe's own online service. This blows my mind. Even an iphone app was created before an export plugin. I mean who wants to manage a 3 step process that includes making redunant files to get images into Photoshop.com?
Is there anyone out there who has written one yet? I have scourd the internet but photopshop.com yields irrelavant search results for anything.
I think it's weird that there's not a 'plugin' to upload to Photoshop.com from Lightroom right out of the box...expecially given that Lightroom has built-in integration with Flickr. It almost seems like PS.com is not an Adobe product.
But, Mark, I doubt most Lightroom users have any interest in using PS.com as a backup for photos. I use it to deliver photos to clients. It's a clunky and problematic platform for that, in many respects, but it's one of the best available right now that I've found. I upload manually i.e. export from Lightroom, then upload in a browser to PS.com.
What would really make it useful is:
1. A Lightroom plugin.
2. Ability to provide a link to Album Categories so that you can send one link to a client which contains all of their delivered photos.
3. Accurate 'date taken' info (it's always wrong: has seemingly random dates years prior to the photo's taken-date: this causes customer confusion).
4. View tracking: I currently do that with bit.ly but it is useful to see how many times images are accessed to make sure the client was able to view their images.
5. Ability to have an index page in an album category so that the client can go to this index page and select all within that category.
Another related issue is the 'sharing' function. It is also very odd from an interface and usability standpoint that in order to share an album with a client, you have to email it to them (or someone, such as yourself) which then allows you to copy a link to the album. Nearly all of my clients have been confused by the email 'invitation' and I believe it's been spam-filtered regularly. It's vary 'spammy' looking and the default text shows that: "Check out George's photos..." etc. It's just not suited to delivery of client photos. What I do now is email it to myself, and then send a link to the client. Why can't we just select 'make album share-able' and then be able to create a link that way? Having to email it is an unnecessary step.
I see the focus in PS.com trying to be YET ANOTHER social-networking photo site, of which we certainly don't need any more, i.e. yet another place to display photos and have total strangers comment how good they are, whether they are good or not . But, it's a somewhat useful customer delivery method and it needs some tweaks and repairs in order to fulfill that functionality.
Thanks for the great feedback. We're not interested in replacing your existing social photo sharing services, but it wouldn't be bad for
Adobe to help Photoshop.com work better with those sites.
Those other features you mentioned are insightful user cases which we are taking anothe look at. You may have noticed the 'front door' of Photoshop.com change in the last few weeks, and there is more great stuff to come. The site is evolving, and I see many of those functions you describe as being aspects of that evolution.
We have had internal plugins for upload from Lightroom to Photoshop.com working for some time now. Likely it would be available publicly soon.
Let's make it available then (Photoshop.com plugin for LR)....if only in Adobe Labs so at least us experimental types can try this Lightroom plug-in for Photoshop.com .....It boggles my mind that you have Facebook, Flickr and SmugMug plugins right out of the box for LR3 but no way of publishing directly to Adobe's own Photoshop.com service.....seems so strange to me.....
I really want to see this plugin made available....
@TheBilbo: That is exactly the main idea to have this option! Sure Flickr is nice to store photos for back up since they allow unlimited amount, but Photoshop.com is to show them off! They said they were testing a plug in internally at Adobe, why not release it as a Beta at least, to speed the process.
This was the first thread that popped up in Google after searching for "lightroom to photoshop.com plugin". There doesn't seem to be a solid answer here. Why aren't we creating a plugin to upload photos directly from lightroom???!?
I'm another who'd prefer to see photoshop.com as a social media website (competitive with Flickr), NOT a backup. I already have a backup service and they backup photos AND documents for me. A backup service isn't that appealing if it only backs up photos. Given the amount of viewing, commenting and editing features on photoshop.com, it seems to be geared quite a bit towards socialization of photos, so I'm suprised to hear backup is its primary objective.
What makes photoshop.com really nice is its integration with Elements Organizer. I like using organizer and Photoshop and its integration with Photoshop.com make for an easy way for me to share photos. I'm not ready to replace my personal website and facebook account yet, but I was hoping photoshop.com might get there someday. Please try to take on Flickr A daunting task, but being integrated with a real editor like Photoshop would be nice.
Just to update my situation, I've ditched Elements Organizer and bought Lightroom. I'm loving it so far. I would use photoshop.com if a plug-in were available.
As you implied, RAW files use a lot of space so I might not use photoshop.com as a backup. I would still export/publish to it though for sharing personal albums. Looking forward to when the plug-in is available.
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