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    Apr 9, 2011 5:56 AM

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    Hi,

     

     

    As per the crash logs Oleacc.dll module is corrupted and this problems take place when the system is misconfigured or its essential files are missing. Such problems occur when a PC is not maintained properly and has accumulated many critical issues that require immediate repair.

     

    To repair Oleacc.dll problems correctly, download and install the repair tool below. This tool was designed to successfully diagnose, find and fix the problems on your computer.

     

    Please follow the following 3 steps to eliminate your problem:

     

     

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    Please restart the machine once these steps are followed, also please take back up of important files before running the tool.

     

    Once the machine is up, try to work with menus in RoboHelp8 HTML and please let me know the results.

     

     

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    Since the download link has been removed, please use this link to go to the website http://www.restoreguard.com/p/file-Oleacc.dll.html?keyword=Oleacc.DLL& gclid=CLzGo8S466MCFQdGagodkwZH3w and from there you can download the rapairing tool.

     

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    Sep 22, 2010 10:17 AM

    Thanks for your GooberGuide on the Menu expansion, Rick! Wish it would fix my crashes though! :-)

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    Sep 22, 2010 10:23 AM

    Egh? Are you referring to the Tweet I sent today about the free menu software?

     

    Cheers... Rick

     

     

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    Dec 1, 2010 11:11 AM

    I have the same problem on Windows 7 laptops

     

    I had a previous Windows 7 laptop and Robohelp 8.02 started crashing. When I got a new computer it was OK for a few weeks - but started crashing again a few days ago.

     

    At first this was intermittent, and I thought I'd solved it by rebuilding the project (manually importing the topics), but that was not the case.

     

    I am not allowed to run these magic cleaners...

     

    Two questions

     

    1. Is it a problem only on laptops?

    2. Is one solution to run Robohelp in vmware?

     

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    Dec 1, 2010 11:34 AM

    How big is the CPD file?

     

    I have RoboHelp 8 running quite happily on a 32 bit Windows 7 machine.

     

    Any source control involved?

     


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    Dec 1, 2010 11:50 AM

    Like my esteeemed colleague Mr. Grainge, I too have been running RoboHelp 8 quite successfully on Windows 7. My machine is running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit. It's also a laptop with 4 gigs of RAM and a Pentium processor.

     

    Cheers... Rick

     

     

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    Dec 2, 2010 12:43 AM

    .CPD file is 870KB. Re the CPD file, I use the option 'clear project cache (cpd file)' under options.

     

    Re version control, we use TFS, but I have switched this off (taken the project out of version control), built the prject from scratch, to no avail.

     

    I have no doubt that Robohelp can run sometimes happily on some Windows 7 computers. In fact (and I should have made this clear), it does seem to depend on what project I run, and even on where I run it: that is Robohelp crashed whenver I saved a topic, but when I copied the whole project file to a new folder,  it ran quite happily (for a while)!  The access rights on all folders seemed OK in the original, so it wasn't that.

     

    For me, the issue is this: sometimes but not always, and for unknown reasons, Robohelp continuously crashes.

    Is there a way - any way at all - that I can continue to use Robohelp?

     

    I should also mention, I ran the MS system file checker tool SFC.exe (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929833). It found no errors in my system files.

     

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    Dec 2, 2010 2:17 AM

    Could the issue be the depth of path?

     

    A project that is in C:\MyProject can run quite happily but put that same project somewhere in your profile so that the true path is a mile long and you can have problems.

     


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    Dec 2, 2010 4:38 AM

    No, it's not the file path. Tried C:\project\.

     

    Peter

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    Dec 2, 2010 8:25 AM

    I don't know what else to suggest. It seems like the only thing left is the solution IT will not allow you to run. I think my line would be if you will not allow this to run, what suggestion do you propose?

     

    I'm sorry I cannot resolve this one.

     


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    Dec 15, 2010 12:57 PM

    I am also running robohelp 8.02 on a windows 7 pro 64 bit. I am having the same problem with my menus, If you select a menu you must deselect that menu before selecting a diferent menu or robohelp will crash. robohelp will also crash if you select the same style to reapply the style. I have been running robohelp since robohelp 5.0. Now with my new laptop robohelp is very unstable. I am trying to run the health advisor as discussed earler it this forum and will post back to advise if it helps.

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    Dec 15, 2010 1:17 PM

    Hi there

     

    You might try configuring the menus different than the default in an attempt to see if this is the culprit.

     

     

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    Dec 15, 2010 1:25 PM

    I tried changing the menus to fully display yesterday with no difference in performance.

     

    But thank you for trying.

     

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    Dec 15, 2010 1:29 PM

    Well Frapdoodle!

     

    I really hate to suggest this because it was suggested to me recently for another issue. But perhaps it will help.

     

    If you change your Windows Theme to something fairly generic, does it help? I was having an issue and it was suggested that I change my theme from my pretty customized theme to a basic theme and sure enough it changed the behavior for me. I didn't like it much because dagnabbit, I *LIKED* my theme!

     

    But it may be worth a try to see if it helps.

     

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    Dec 15, 2010 1:55 PM

    I tried the health advisor $29.99. I also tried changing my theme to the default. But no luck. robohelp still crashes on the menus and is very unstable.

     

    Thank you for your suggestions and any more would be appreciated.

     

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    Dec 16, 2010 7:18 AM

    Have you tried running it in XP mode or in the XP virtual machine

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    Dec 20, 2010 8:05 AM

    Duncan

     

    Thank you for responding. You are correct one of the services was the problem. I will do some research to determine which service it was but after shutting off all non Microsoft services robohelp runs great.

     

    Thank you again

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    Jan 7, 2011 10:23 AM

    Thank you! Thank you! I have 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium on my new HP Laptop and am on a 30-day trial for RoboHelp 8 (used RH 5 some time back and now the company wants a documentation update). After turning off services and turning them back on one at a time, I determined the culprit was my Biometric Authentication Service (Mfg: DigitalPersona, Inc.). It works in conjunction with the Validity VCS Fingerprint Service, but the fingerprint service wasn't the one that was making it crash. After searching online I found that I could turn the Biometric Service back on after reading http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/addbuz/thread/15fff39 b-69a7-48f4-b932-58d4c330984e which makes several suggestions. This is what I followed:

     

    Method 2:
    Reconfigure HP Security Manager (HP SimplePass Identity Protection)*

    A.  Click on Start>All Programs>HP SimplePass Identity Protection
    B.  Expand Password Manager, and select Settings
    C.  Uncheck the prompt to add logons for logon screens option, click Apply, then restart the system

    * This solution was provided by HP.  We don't know what other effects they can expect from making the noted changes, and you may want to contact HP for more information if you chose this workaround and need more detail. 

     

    I do use the fingerprint service to initially log in, but not for anything else.

     

    Hope this helps!  If it weren't for this forum, Adobe would have lost a sale...  Thanks again!

     

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    Jan 7, 2011 11:00 AM

    Welcome to our community Suzy

     

    And congratulations on your first post being so helpful to others! That's pretty unusual around here. Not that we mind at all with assisting folks, but many arrive here as their last resort and are looking for help.

     

    If you could please do us all a huge favor we would most appreciate it!

     

    The favor?

     

    Please report the same to Adobe as a bug. That way it will be logged in their databases for things to check and/or know about that affect RoboHelp. You can pretty much copy and paste the info you typed earlier.

     

    Link to the bug reporting form is in my sig.

     

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    Jan 7, 2011 12:31 PM

    Done!

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    May 13, 2011 5:05 AM

    Tawni, did you ever figure out which service was causing your problems?

     

    Suzi solved the problem with Biometric Authentication Service, but my PC isn't running that service, so I'm looking for another culprit.

     

    In the meantime, I guess I will have to switch off the services one by one until I find the one causing the problem -- assuming that a service is actually causing the problems in my case!

     

    If I find the culprit (or another solution), I will post it here.

     

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    May 15, 2011 10:26 AM

    Never isolated the exact service. I just run under XP, which is VERY unacceptable as my other tools are all in Windows 7. I have also purchased Flare and will be moving all my help systems to MadCap.

     

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    Jun 17, 2011 1:21 PM

    Rather than going back and forth with "try this" now "try this" does RoboHelp create any error logs that I can examine to see why one of my projects crashes every time I save it? I've rebuilt this project 2x already and it works fine for a while, then one day decides to crash everytime I click Save, Save All, or CTRL+S. The changes are saved, thank goodness, but it's a PITA to have to wait for the crash to finish and then reopen every time I save. (It also seems to coincide with Windows OS updates, so I suspect some shared file is to blame.)

     

    Yes, I'm on Win 7 64-bit, which isn't supported, blah, blah, blah. My question is regarding error logs that might be created each time RH crashes. If yes, where are they?

     

     

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    <PS>I've read and tried all of the suggestions in this and many other posts that list crashing problems. It's not a problem with:

    • menus (haven't seen this issue)
    • CPD file (clears out every time I open it)
    • network (working locally)
    • Source control (don't use it)
    • etc.
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    Jun 17, 2011 2:07 PM

    What about (a) disabling your services, one by one to see which one is the culprit, or (b) running RH8 in Win7's virtual XP mode, or (c) upgrading to RH9?

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    Jun 17, 2011 2:18 PM

    Correction: CTRL+S does not crash it, so that's my workaround for now. I have not yet tried disabling services. I don't really have any extraneous services turned on. I'm on a work computer so there are somethings I have to leave running and I can't install any fancy utilities or anything like that.

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    Jun 17, 2011 2:36 PM

    "Hmm, this product sure crashes a lot. I think I'll buy their latest version." Nope.

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    Jun 17, 2011 2:41 PM

    Well, that's where software companies put their fixes & enhancements - they don't waste time supporting something that they've said isn't supported. You are fully patched up in RH8 aren't you?

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    Jun 17, 2011 2:48 PM

    Yes, I just now checked updates again and it is patched. The fact that 32-bit users on Windows 7 suggests that the fact that I am using an unsupported 64-bit OS, and that not all of my projects have the problem suggests that the 64-bit part isn't the issue. As I and other posters have said before, when I create a new project or recreate a project from scratch, everything works great--for a while. Then it gets this crashing problem. I have too many projects to maintain to rebuild them every month. I have just have restrain myself from clicking Save on the menu in this project and just use CTRL+S.

     

    (Note: I work at a software company and we do interim fixes/patches all of the time. Look at the version history of just one of our products: http://www.globalscape.com/eft/history.aspx)

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    Jun 17, 2011 2:55 PM

    Hi there

     

    Question here. Are you by chance using the Resource Mangler? Uhh, I mean Resource Manager?

     

    I've used RoboHelp 8 on my own Windows 7 64 bit setup without issue for over a year now. I don't find RoboHelp to crash any more than any of my other apps do.

     

    As for the patches, do you only patch the latest release or do you provide patches for sofware products several releases old? I ask because it seems to me that most software companies only provide ongoing patches for whatever the latest release is. For example, I didn't see TechSmith issuing a patch to bring SnagIt 7 or 8 Windows 7 compatibility. Just sayin...

     

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    Jun 17, 2011 3:02 PM

    Version history from one of our products is listed below. If you bought version 5, you get all of the version 5.x.x updates. Same for version 6. Many of these updates are in response to user requests or crashes.

    Version History

     

        Changes in 6.3

        Changes in 6.2.31

        Changes in 6.2.18

        Changes in 6.2.7

        Changes in 6.2.3

        Changes in 6.2.1

        Changes in 6.2

        Changes in 6.1.10

        Changes in 6.1

        Changes in 6.0.17

        Changes in 5.2.21

        Changes in 6.0.6

        Changes in 6.0.4

        Changes in 6.0.1

        Changes in 5.2.15

        Changes in 6.0

        Changes in 5.2.12

        Changes in 5.2.6

        Changes in 5.2.5

        Changes in 5.1.34

        Changes in 5.2.4

        Changes in 5.2.3

        Changes in 5.1.30

        Changes in 5.1.6

        Changes in 5.1.1

        Changes in 5.1.0

        Changes in 5.0.1

        Changes in 5.0

        Changes in 4.3.4

        Changes in 4.3.3

        Changes in 4.3.2

        Changes in 4.3

        Changes in 4.2

        Changes in 4.1.1

        Changes in 4.1

        Changes in 4.0.11

        Changes in 4.0.10

        Changes in 4.0.9

        Changes in 4.0.8

        Changes in 4.0.6

        Changes in 4.0.5

        Changes in 4.0.4

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        Changes in 4.0.2

        Changes in 4.0.1

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    Jun 17, 2011 3:06 PM

    Well, if you don't want to experiment with option (a) & option (c) is right out, then I guess you're stuck with option (b) - fire up that virtual XP environment that some versions of Win7 have built in (it's a freebie download for the others, I understand).

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    Jun 17, 2011 3:10 PM

    Sorry, we only do 3 versions - previous year's, current year, next year's - we tell our clients to move on up every year, yee haw!

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    Jun 17, 2011 3:18 PM

    When you're "the industry standard" you can get away with that. =)

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    Jun 17, 2011 3:19 PM

    So I guess that's a "no" regarding getting error logs from RoboHelp?

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    Jun 18, 2011 2:08 AM

    If an application crashes Windows records information in the Even Viewer. This link will tell you about that.

     

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Open-Event-Viewer

     

    I suspect the information will be pretty meaningless to anyone but an engineer who can interpret the information, as would likely be the case with any log RoboHelp created.

     


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    Jun 20, 2011 8:05 AM

    Thanks, Peter, I forgot about the Event Viewer. Below are excerpts of a few of the errors. (I removed Report ID, Exception Code, etc.) It'd be easier to point at the culprit if it was always the same error. Ntdll.dll and MDBMS.dll crash it most often, but there are others. Which seems odd is that it's reporting the version as 8.0.0.203, but RoboHelp's About screen says it's version 8.0.2.208. I'm going to try reinstalling. Maybe some DLLs got corrupted when I did MS updates.

     

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: ntdll.dll, version: 6.1.7601.17514, time stamp: 0x4ce7ba58

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dll

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: AdobeLinguistic.dll_unloaded, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x45bff83a

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: AdobeLinguistic.dll

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: HTMLTemplate.dll, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944df58

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\HTMLTemplate.dll

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: MDBMS.dll, version: 8.0.2.208, time stamp: 0x4afbdffd

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\MDBMS.dll

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: BaseLibrary.dll, version: 8.0.1.204, time stamp: 0x4aa649c7

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\BaseLibrary.dll

     

    Faulting application name: RoboHTML.exe, version: 8.0.0.203, time stamp: 0x4944f3bb

    Faulting module name: MFC80U.DLL, version: 8.0.50727.6195, time stamp: 0x4dcdece0

    Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe RoboHelp 8\RoboHTML\RoboHTML.exe

    Faulting module path: C:\Windows\WinSxS\x86_microsoft.vc80.mfc_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.6 195_none_cbf5e994470a1a8f\MFC80U.DLL

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    Jun 20, 2011 8:30 AM

    See what it says in Programs and Features about the version. I have seen differences between that and Help > About.

     

    If P&F is also 802, what you are seeing is perhaps some version numbers that did not get updated throughout.

     

    As to the rest of what it says, I refer you back to the last paragraph of my previous reply.

     


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    Jun 20, 2011 8:59 AM

    Programs and Features says version 8.0.2.

     

    Reinstalling RoboHelp seems to have fixed it (knock on wood). Because it only seemed to have crashing problems after a major Microsoft update, and because the Event Viewer said it was DLLs that crashed, and one of the DLLs is shared with Microsoft (ntdll.dll--NT kernel functions), I'm going with the corrupted DLL as the problem, and reinstalling RoboHelp as the solution. (For those of you who get more than the occasional project crashing, you probably have a different problem, but running the installer in Repair mode is worth a try and doesn't take long.)

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    Jun 20, 2011 9:41 AM

    Thanks for posting what worked. Always helps.

     


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    May 18, 2012 9:29 AM

    This week, I started having issues (again) with RoboHelp 8 hanging and crashing. I looked at the Event Viewer and saw that (again) ntdll.dll and MDBMS.dll were crashing RH.These DLLs are used by other applications and, no suprise, we've had many MS updates lately. I found this website http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/w7itprogeneral/thread /983a9985-7eaa-4e31-a0d8-b2b34442a937/ that explains about ntdll.dll and possible fixes for it. Probably reinstalling RH again will fix my issue. I just wanted to let everyone here who has had this issue know that it's not RH's fault, it's the darn DLLs. (Yes, I need to upgrade to v9. (Has anyone using v9 had this crashing/hanging problem?) I get similar problems with PhotoShop, but not as often. It would be nice if Adobe simply routinely released updates to refresh the DLLs, AFTER MS pushes their updates. (But, I play the lottery, too.) 

    
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    May 18, 2012 9:47 AM

    I am not aware of anyone having issues caused by those DLLs and Microsoft patches with either 8 or 9. It seems more related to your environment.

     

    I assume your installation was patched to 8.0.2.

     

    Can you try working on a different PC for a while? I suspect there is a fundamental problem with your PC and that it may be a reinstall of the operating system is needed. Speak to your IT guys on that.

     


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