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Pagemaker 7 Crashing

Jan 12, 2011 4:25 PM

Just today, I have created three Pagemaker 7 documents, all of which have crashed after I have placed photos (anywhere from 5 to 6). The documents and Pagemaker application close with no warning or dialogue box. The documents do not show up as recent publications. When I attempt to open them via the "open" command, they cannot be opened because they were "not closed properly". The sizes of the JPEGs are all less than 2 Mbs each. All were scanned using Pagemanager software, converted to a Photoshop document, opened and modified in PS CS5, and converted to JPEGs, supposedly ready for inclusion into my Pagemaker document. During that time, I have had three applications open: (1) Pagemaker 7, (2) Photoshop CS5, and (3) Bridge (that accompanies the CS5 version).

 

I have scanned hundreds of photos using the same methods, although most have been by using Photoshop CS3, instead of CS5. I have not ever had this problem of both the document and application both closing unexpectedly.

 

My questions are: Is this a memory (RAM) problem? It doesn't appear that my files are corrupted. I have scanned close to 600 images for this project (all now converted to JPEGs, with files sizes less than one Mb up through 20 Mb.) What else might account for the unexpected closure?

 
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    Jan 12, 2011 4:53 PM   in reply to hhoolee

    Scanned into Pagemaker? Why?

     

    Scan them in Photoshop and save as TIF. And since you have the rest of the Creative Suite may I suggest you move to InDesign?

     

    Bob

     
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    Jan 13, 2011 7:45 AM   in reply to hhoolee

    What version of Windows?

     

    Pagemaker is 10 years old and is deadend software. Almost any regular user has moved to InDesign by now. In fact, I haven't PM installed in many years.

     

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    Jan 13, 2011 8:01 AM   in reply to hhoolee

    You can upgrade to InDesign CS5 for less than $200: http://amzn.to/gOd73m

     

    I would strongly urge you to invest in Sandee Cohen's Visual Quick Start Guide as well: http://amzn.to/eBLcfi

     

    This is must have book for InDesign beginners.

     

    Bob

     
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    Sep 17, 2011 6:49 PM   in reply to hhoolee

    I have the same problem. Pagemaker crashes when I try to use JPEGs saved from Photoshop CS5.

     

    Running on Windows XP. I don't think it is a RAM problem.

     

    My working assumption is that CS5 saves JPEG data in a way that poor old Pakermaker can't cope with.

     

    My work-around was to resave the images in TIFF format (still using CS5) with LZW compression. Then Pagemaker is happy with the images.

     

    Note: when I tried saving TIFF images with JPEG compression Pagemaker would again barf.

     

    Cheers, Paul

     
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    Sep 17, 2011 6:52 PM   in reply to paulkennett

    PM was never very good with anything but EPS and TIF.

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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    Sep 18, 2011 1:54 AM   in reply to Bob Levine

    What Bob said. Having said that, it may have to do with the settings you used on the jpg, It never could handle a progressive jpg.

    Tiff with jpg compression is a relatively new abomination created years after the last update of pagemaker.

     

    Photoshop CS5 and pagemaker, what a combo.

    Jay

     
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    Sep 18, 2011 3:23 PM   in reply to Jay Chevako

    Aha! It was the progressive JPGs that were causing the problem.

     

    I tried saving a few images as plain old baseline JPG's (from Photoshop CS5) and Pagemaker was fine with them.

     

    (This is my last project in Pagemaker. I have Indesign CS5 installed and ready to go once this job is out the door.)

     

    Cheers, Paul

     
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    Feb 15, 2012 1:45 PM   in reply to Bob Levine

    Not sure what you mean by 'deadened' software. If you mean Adobe has discontinued both support and production of the product, then yes. But I am using PageMaker 7.01a on a regular basis without any problems at all. In fact I just installed the program on the 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate OS. Granted I had to sneak PM in the back door using the 32 bit Virtual PC XP Mode. he he he...but the fact remains, I can open PM while in the regular 64 bit OS. Not to say it is working flawlessly, but has any Adobe product ever? I really have no need to upgrade to InDesign. I think Adobe was waiting for the right moment to market their Quark clone, and finally saw their chance. I didn't bite. In fact my first experience with PM was Aldus Pagemaker 5.0. When I came to work in the office back in 1995, we had just upgraded from v. 4. Those were the good ol' days. And yes, NEVER place jpegs into a PM document. Lesson learned.

     
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    Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM   in reply to Bob Caused This

    Yeah, I’d say that’s a pretty good definition of dead end software, so I think I’m going to stick with that.

     

     

     

    Consider yourself very lucky to get PM installed and running on that setup.

     

     

     

    I think you need a history lesson, though. Adobe didn’t buy Aldus for Pagemaker, they bought it because Aldus had already started working on InDesign.

     

     

     

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    Feb 15, 2012 2:21 PM   in reply to Bob Levine

    Yes, dead-end software is quite different from deadened software. A matter of symantics i suppose. I would have to agree that PM is indeed dead-end software. At some point i may be faced with upgrading to InDesign. It's not that i don't have the software, but c'mon, my 5 yr old version of InDesign won't open ANY of the newer documents I receive from clients -- not back end compatible. Bottom line is that i create files for the printing press and my pdf exports work flawlessly out of PM and have no trouble going through their prepress rip.

     

    I have passed my biggest challenge -- integrating PM in the Windows 7 Ultimate OS. Luck? yes, partly, but more so determination, and of course quite a bit intellect.

     

    If there is a will, there is a way, in spite of corporate America. After all, who's looking out for the little guy? Think of all the old hardware (scanners) that worked perfectly fine in XP that don't have 64 bit drivers. Is a 64 bit OS that much better? idk. Maybe, but in my own experience, it has just caused a lot of headache. Most people take the easy way out, which is upgrade both hardware and software, and that requires capital.

     
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