My Final Build, Any Deal Breakers?

Jan 23, 2011 11:55 PM

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Black

CORSAIR Vengeance 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

MSI N470GTX Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit

Antec TruePower New TP-750 750W Continuous Power

Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH120G2K5 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

SAMSUNG Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM

Noctua NF-P12-1300 120mm CPU Cooler and Case Fan

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (x2)

This is the final build I am looking at ordering from New Egg. Any huge forseeable problems? I will be working with CS5 soon, and will be doing video editing (mostly short projects 5-10 min).

Any tips when putting this build together? It's my first time building. Anything important that I could be missing (parts, etc.) ?

Thank you much!

1729 Views 22 Replies Latest reply: raviprakashz, Jan 28, 2011 7:38 PM

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1. Harm Millaard,

Jan 24, 2011 1:00 AM in reply to Adamousman

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Just check the PSU. Go to eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Pro v2.5 and get the Pro version. Enter all your components, set CPU load to 100% and capacitor aging to 30% and then add 10 - 15% for safety to the calculated wattage.

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2. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 24, 2011 8:51 AM in reply to Adamousman

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Best thermal past:

http://www.coollaboratory.com/en/products/liquid-ultra/

And Look the comparation on these foro:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/259315-11-thermalright-venomous-pr olimatech-megahalem

Hoppe I could give you something new.

B.R.

PS. Make a better HD CONFIG.

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3. Jim Simon,

Jan 24, 2011 10:12 AM in reply to Adamousman

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Looks like a nice system to me. I might only switch out the WD hard drives for SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB. They're cheaper and faster.

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4. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 25, 2011 4:18 AM in reply to Jim Simon

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I agree with you.

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5. Seven ltd,

Jan 26, 2011 1:24 AM in reply to Adamousman

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I hope there are no problems that I jump in here with my plan for my next computer.

I made my first video a couple of months ago and it was for my youngest daughters weddingparty. I live 9000 km away so I was not planning to be there.

I used Premium Pro CS4 and it was hard work but in the end I had 16 minutes on a DVD.

Now my oldest daughter thinks I am some kind of a pro so she is sending me 30 miniDV tapes with familylife for me to edit!

So now I take the chance to upgrade my computer, the old one is 4-5 years,

I am planning to upgrade to CS5 and here is my spec that I would like to get your reactions to:

Case:
Cooler Master CM 690 II Advanced Mid Tower Computer Case (RC-692)

Powersupply:
Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 1000W (RS-A00-80GA-D3)

Motherboard:
AsusRampage III GENE Socket 1366 Core i7 Processor Extreme Edition / Core i7 Processor
OR
AsusRampage III Formula Socket LGA1366 / 6 x DDR3 / 2 x SATA3 / 6 x SATAII / ATX

Processor:
Intel Core i7-930 Processor

RAM:
6 x Kingston2GB 1066MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL7 DIMM (KVR1066D3N7/2G)

Videocard:
ASUS nVIDIA PCI-EX EN GTX470/2DI/1280MD5 PCI-EX

Internal harddrives:
1 Western DigitalWD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA3 6Gb/s 3.5" 7200RPM 32MB Cache (WD5000AAKX) for OS

3 Western DigitalWD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA3 6Gb/s 3.5" 7200RPM 32MB Cache (WD10EALX)

Monitor:
23 inch LED some brand

UPS:
1100 W

Operating system:
Windows 7 Home

I will use the new PC as an offline computer, only use it for video-editing and for Photoshop. I hope that later this year I will buy myself a nice camera with videofunctions so I plan to use the new PC quite a lot in the future.

Thanks in advance!

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6. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 26, 2011 1:31 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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All look nice to me. Only 1 thing: The RAM. Dont buy 6X2G, BUY 3X4 Look for these over 1600mhz and if is low cl latency better,

GREAT pc

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7. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 26, 2011 1:44 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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I nice kit 3 x 4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233146&cm_re= 3_x_4gb-_-20-233-146-_-Product

Remember the cooling. to make your i7930 DRIVE @ 4ghz IS VERY VERY EASY AND SAVE ON AIR.

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8. Harm Millaard,

Jan 26, 2011 2:47 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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I do not completely agree with Cristobal.

Several suggestions:

Case: Get a big tower, like the HAF 932. Easier to install, better cooling, more space to grow.

CPU: Get the i7-950 for the irrelevant price difference.

Memory: Only 3 x 4 GB sticks. A much better investment with room to expand.

Disks: NO Caviar Blue. Either Caviar Black or Samsung F3. For OS & programs the 320 G Samsung F4.

OS: Win7 64 Professional, not Home, because it is limited to 16 GB.

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9. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 26, 2011 3:09 AM in reply to Harm Millaard

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"Case: Get a big tower, like the HAF 932. Easier to install, better cooling, more space to grow."

Totaly right.

"CPU: Get the i7-950 for the irrelevant price difference."

Irrelevant Price difference and irrelevant performance diferrence. Honesly for me i7920;930;950;975. Is all the same, when we talk about O.C. Even QPI in the xtremen edition do not make big diference after O.C.

"Disks: NO Caviar Blue. Either Caviar Black or Samsung F3. For OS & programs the 320 G Samsung F4."

Nothing to say her, you are the master of the H.D. I will allways say the VELOCIRAPTORS but they are $$$.

"OS: Win7 64 Professional, not Home, because it is limited to 16 GB."

Something new for me, I realy did't know the home is limited to 16.
Thx for this.

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10. Seven ltd,

Jan 26, 2011 6:32 PM in reply to Harm Millaard

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Many thanks to both of you !

One more question, I had two different motherboards on my list, ASUS Rampage III Gene and ASUS Rampage III Formula. Which one would you prefer?
Or is there some other motherboard out there thinking of price/performance that I should try to find?

I live in the middle of the jungle 65 km south of the Golden Triangle in Thailand but I can find most stuff in Bangkok.

Thank you once again!

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11. Seven ltd,

Jan 26, 2011 9:25 PM in reply to Seven ltd

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Sorry to bother you with more questions but when I dig deeper trying to find what to order then I get more confused.

Now when it comes to memory:

I try to buy 12 GB and have found these ( I try to keep it simple and concentrate on Kingston):

a) 4 GB. DDR3-1333 (D3N9K2) Dual-Channel 2GBx2 CL 9-9-9   Price 1550 baht

b) 4 GB. DDR3-1600 (KHX1600C8T1K2) Dual-Channel 2GBx2 CL 8   Price 2450 baht

c) 4 GB. DDR3-1600 (CL9) D3LK2 Triple-Channel 2GBx2 CL 9-9-9-27   Price 2650 baht

d) 4 GB. DDR3-1600 (CL9/GREEN) Dual-Channel 2GBx2 CL 9-9-9-27 Price 3590 baht

e) 4 GB. DDR3-1800 (KHX1800C9D3) Single Channel CL 9-9-9-27   Price 2790 baht

f)   8 GB. DDR3-1600 (KHX1600C9D3K2) Dual-Channel 4GBx2 CL 9   Price 7890 baht

g) 12 GB. DDR3-1600 (KHX1600C9D3K3/12GX) Triple-Channel 4GBx3 CL 9    Price 11500 baht

Currency today is around 31 baht for one US dollar.

As you see there is quite a difference in price between them so which one is best when you see price/performance?

If I understand this right Single Channel is one card, Dual-Channel is 2 cards and Triple.Channel is 3 cards. But line c) says Triple-Channel and 2 cards ??

Line f) and line g) should be same memory but 2-pack and 3-pack and with price about 3900 baht per memory.

What is the difference between them and line e) with price 2790 baht?

Questions, questions and more questions.....



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12. Harm Millaard,

Jan 26, 2011 11:11 PM in reply to Seven ltd

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Break down the codes into its separate parts:

KHX is Kingston Hyper X memory

1333, 1600 or 1800 is the rated speed

C8 or C9 is the CAS latency

D3 means DDR3

K2 or K3 or K6 means a kit of 2, 3 or 6 modules.

It is best to get a single kit and not separate modules.

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13. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 26, 2011 11:18 PM in reply to Seven ltd

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Hi seven. As I can see you are having some complication for get your ram.

Point 1:
You are ussing a x58 M.B. and one of the caracteristics oh her is the TRIPLE CHANEL.
se more:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple-channel_architecture

So dont even think on dual chanel or singel chanel. ANY HOW if you like t know what is dual chanel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-channel_architecture

Point 2:
Out of the list you have I will only chose the "G" been unhappy.
BTW: WHY Kingston????? go for Corsair 12GB (3x4GB) or Mushkin 12GB (3x4GB)

Point 3:
If you tell your budget and on which webpage you are buying your pc I will tellyou exactly what to buy.

End:
The http://ppbm5.com/ is the best place "for me the best tool" for comparing and understanding PC performance in a video editing environment.

"It is designed to be a portable, repeatable, and easily reportable hardware evaluation tool. It will allow you to optimize your Premiere Pro hardware configuration and give you solid data for optimizing your existing system, upgrading your system, or for selecting a new cost effective configuration.
Copyright Bill Gehrke & Harm Millaard 2010 ©. All rights reserved."

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14. Seven ltd,

Jan 27, 2011 5:03 AM in reply to Crist OC/PC

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Thanks a lot both Harm and Christobal!
You have really helped me a lot to start understand a little bit more about what should be inside the
computer and what to think about.

Very good links there Christ! I have read them all and understand more but not all.

As I told you I live in Thailand and buying from US is out of the question. If (!) the ordered goods arrive here then I must pay
tax and import duty and that will easely doubble the costs.

So I am looking at some Internetshops here in Thailand, here is one that has most info in English http://www.computeandmore.com/index.php

One alternative is to go down to Bangkok where there are one big shoppingmall with hundreds of computershops. They can also build the machine and test it. I have friends with good experience of that. I have also talked to a shop here in Chiang Rai and they can order the parts and put it together.

When it comes to memory I have found this http://www.computeandmore.com/productlist.php?id=1354 G.SKILL DDR3 12GB RL 1600(4GBx3)
And here the G.Skills website http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=265

So my new list looks like this:

Case:
Cooler Master HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Full Tower Case
Powersupply:
Cooler Master 1000w Silent Pro M1000
Motherboard:
AsusRampage III Formula Socket LGA1366 / 6 x DDR3 / 2 x SATA3 / 6 x SATAII / ATX
Processor:
Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz 4C/8T 4x 256KB L2 Cache LGA 1366
RAM:
G.SKILL DDR3 12GB RL 1600(4GBx3)
Videocard:
ASUS nVIDIA PCI-EX EN GTX470/2DI/1280MD5 PCI-EX
Internal harddrives:
1 WD Caviar Black Desktop Hard Drives 500 GB,
3 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM 32MB Cache S-ATA II NCQ "HD103SJ"
OS
Win 7 Pro

Budget ? Well I hope to get it all within 80 000 baht!

Thanks again and if you have more information and advices I will be very happy to read them!

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15. Harm Millaard,

Jan 27, 2011 6:57 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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This looks good. One thing you may have overlooked is a third party CPU cooler, like Cooler Master, Noctua or Prolimatech.

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16. raviprakashz,

Jan 27, 2011 4:33 PM in reply to Seven ltd

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@Seven ltd

Thank you for your research, in fact I am planning one, and endup here with this thread to deceide which one to go for.
Yesterday, I went to SIM LIM Square, to find out the best prices here in Singapore. May be if you can share the price, it would be useful for me to compare as well, if you don't mind.

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17. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 28, 2011 12:07 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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I look the web side. is nice. I'll give you a list in 4 hours .

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18. Seven ltd,

Jan 28, 2011 1:21 AM in reply to Harm Millaard

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You are right Harm. The cooler might be extra important because it can be up to 35-38 C here in Chiang Rai in April- June.
For the moment I have been looking at Cooler Master Hyper 212. Seem to give same fancapacity as the fancy Cooler Master V6GT, V8 and V10.

If you have something to recommend I be very happy.

I will add a couple of extra fans for the case and one for the VGA.

Ravi, I have sent you an XLS-sheet with the prices I have found so far from 8 different webshops here in Thailand.

And then I found out that I could add the sheet here in this post!
So here it is if someone else want to use it.

Attachments:

Spec I.xls (12.5 K)

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19. Harm Millaard,

Jan 28, 2011 3:44 AM in reply to Seven ltd

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The Hyper 212 is what Bill G. uses and he is very satisfied with the cooling performance.

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20. Crist OC/PC,

Jan 28, 2011 3:58 AM in reply to Harm Millaard

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Harms Bill did´t Have any problems with the size of the HiperX touching the coolin of the CPU?? if he is in air ofcourse. Nocthua, Termalrigh or the prolima???

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