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Where is advanced Dialogue Preference in Elements 9?

Sep 24, 2010 10:06 AM

  Latest reply: phecda, Nov 15, 2011 2:24 PM
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    Jan 4, 2011 2:31 PM   in reply to phecda

    Even if the product is coded in India, or elsewhere, the ultimate responsibility for the product lise with Adobe, which is an American company....

     
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    Jan 4, 2011 2:33 PM   in reply to phecda

    As far as false advertising goes, you are correct. The product does not provide 100% functionality even though I have met all of the minimum hardware & software pre-reqs.

     

    However, I am waiting till they refuse to fix it before I start demanding my money back.

     
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    Jan 4, 2011 5:30 PM   in reply to Pfredd99

    Companies such as Adobe do not consider themselves to be 'American' companiesthey don't want any part of that except to know that our armed forces will protect their buildings here from foreign attackother than that they couldn't care less. Actually I'm sure they don't give much thought to that stuff at all; most of their focus is on payroll & taxation levels here. The entire development team for PhotoShop is in India, the CEO of Adobe is from India, which tells all you need to know about the American nature of Adobe.

     

    Adobe is a global company. Global companies view nations the way McDonald's views restaurant locations in Florida.

     
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    Jan 5, 2011 3:47 PM   in reply to elemt

    Yes I do believe origin of design engineers has nothing to do with the 

    problem.

    All I want is MY  original configuration of the ORGANIZER is that IT  IS NO

    LONGER AN ORGANIZER without the original design of the ORGANIZER. The 

    Organizer should and always has been a way to manage your photos in files. Tags 

    and such were always in my mind a way to designate certain photos as a SUB 

    Category within all those files. For instance I always liked putting

    pictures of  my children and grandchildren in one file separate from photos of

    friends or  acquaintances but the tags allowed for pulling all PEOPLE pics up

    if I wanted  too. Or Landscapes could be tagged , but Landscapes in S Dakota

    could be in a S  Dakota file that also had photos of vacation pics tagged as

    such but Landscapes  in Delaware could be placed in a FILE designated as

    DELAWARE Photos and then  TAGGED as LANDSCAPES. I find this new way annoying

    and want ADOBE to give us  back our ORGANIZE your files as YOU SEE FIT

    option.!!

     

     

    In a message dated 1/5/2011 4:36:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    I agree  with you and I too have all the previous editions of PSE you 

    mention.

     

    Having been the user who started this discussion off,  please can I put in

    a plea that we try to avoid playing a nationalistic kind  of blame game

    regarding the software engineers, countries of present, past or  future origin

    and all that stuff about Adobe itself.  In any case, I am a  UK user and so

    are some of the others back in this  discussion.

     

    The point is that this problem with PSE 9 is a really  BIG PROBLEM - it

    seriously impacts upon the use of PSE 9 EVERYTIME it is used  for downloading

    images. The range of implications of this BUG/INAPPRORIATE  FEATURE (or

    whatever it is called) is very well documented in the experiences  of the users

    in the discussion and also, HOPEFULLY, too  in our reports  of this BUG to

    Adobe.

     

    Across the world there must be a growing  and significant number of users

    that are impacted by the lack of control when  downloading images.

     

    Yes, there IS a real problem and issue about  the fact that Adobe's minimum

    spec is at variance with the screen resolutions  that we (and a growing

    number many others worldwide) have/will  have.

     

    All I want is for Adobe to recognize and accept this sorry  state of

    affairs created by Adobe in its current design/production of PSE 9  and to get a

    quick update written and available to correct it. This situation  has been

    going on for long enough. Come on Adobe, take ownership of the  problem and

    put it right and instead of frustrating your users with their  experience of

    PSE 9 (and then, as can be read in the discussion, frustrations  of the

    company itself).

     

    Just do it. PLEASE  (thanks)

     
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    Jan 6, 2011 1:31 PM   in reply to elemt

    Apparently this IS too much for their developers to handle, particularly when Adobe continues to stonwall this issue by claiming that this is a feature, not a bug. But it IS false advertising & misleading to its customers.'

     

    I hope someone in India realizes that you reap what you sow. In India it is called karma.

     
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    Jan 6, 2011 3:55 PM   in reply to elemt

    Be patient folks. I have reason to believe that a resolution will be coming soon...

     
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    Jan 6, 2011 5:56 PM   in reply to Pfredd99

    I reserve the right to complain about this problem as long as I want until 

    it is fixed!! As the saying goes "Patience is a virtue seldom found in

    women and  never found in men!!

     

    In a message dated 1/6/2011 6:55:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Be  patient folks. I have reason to believe that a resolution will be

    coming  soon...

     
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    Jan 6, 2011 9:26 PM   in reply to Michael19952

    Patience is a virtue, but keep in mind that this was a version release, not an entirely NEW bit of software. If you believe Adobe's comments about this, this 'feature' was the result of conscious, deliberate decisionmaking by designers, not some programming error and a failure of QA. It met the specs because this was PART of the specs.

     

    If the guy is right and Adobe will fix this, that's just ducky. But the fact remains that this 'feature' shouldn't have been there in the first place. It brings any number of things into question, not the least of which is the judgement of users to BUY this software.

     

    This kind of acceptance of software design, whatever misery it brings to users, has been going on for 30 years. This is what I would call soft engineering. Design bridges like this and people die; design software packages like this and we get to hear guys speaking Hindi tell us about the features.

     
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    Jan 7, 2011 2:34 PM   in reply to Michael19952

    Adobe Support called me this afternoon. They said that Adobe realizes that this is a real problem that affects a lot of users.

     

    They are working on a patch to fix the problem.

     

    The support rep did not give me an estimate on when the patch would be out.

     
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    Jan 7, 2011 4:54 PM   in reply to Pfredd99

    well good for them. Still bad for us USERS!!! I want it fixed now...which 

    should not be a big problem for these people that design such things

     

     

    In a message dated 1/7/2011 5:34:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Adobe  Support called me this afternoon. They said that Adobe realizes that

    this is a  real problem that affects a lot of users.

     

    They are working on a  patch to fix the problem.

     

    The support rep did not give me an  estimate on when the patch would be 

    out.

     
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    Jan 8, 2011 12:18 AM   in reply to Pfredd99

    That is GREAT news Pfredd!  Thank you for your diligence!  And I must say, that I have had only positive outcomes with Adobe Support in the past (all the way back to Elements 3)  I am very attached to my PE organizer (yes, I am probably the ONLY person in the world who purchases PE for the Organizer!) and am glad to know that I will be able to use it as I always have in the future!

    Do you think we should conmtinue to send in feature requests/bug reports?

     
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    Jan 8, 2011 5:01 AM   in reply to lamenda1967

    Well certainly you are not the only one that uses PE for the  organizer. 

    But it is one of the features that I most appreciated  and  used for all my

    ORGANIZING of photos. Otherwise why even HAVE AN ORGANIZER in  the program

    that DOES NOT ORGANIZE

     

     

    In a message dated 1/8/2011 3:18:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    That is  GREAT news Pfredd!  Thank you for your diligence!  And I must say,

    that I have had only positive outcomes with Adobe Support in the past (all

    the  way back to Elements 3)  I am very attached to my PE organizer (yes, I

    am  probably the ONLY person in the world who purchases PE for the

    Organizer!) and  am glad to know that I will be able to use it as I always have in

    the  future!

    Do you think we should conmtinue to send in feature requests/bug  reports?

     
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    Feb 6, 2011 11:36 AM   in reply to Michael19952

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    ATR

     
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    Feb 6, 2011 11:36 AM   in reply to Pfredd99

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    ATR

     
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    Feb 6, 2011 9:43 PM   in reply to A.T. Romano

    1366 x 768

     

    So you're suggesting that 1024 x 576 is the MAXIMUM display resolution for which PSE9 is designed. Guess we might think that should be a MINIMUM resolution.

     

    I can adjust resolution, but 1024 x 576 is not an option.

     

    I'm trying to figure out why a photo editor is demanding LESS display resolution than our computers are capable of. There is something seriously wrong with this story.

     

    And it seems to me that previous versions of PSE had a different resolution requirement than does PSE9.

     

    But here is what I know about my laptop PC, PSE and the selection feature in question:

     

    - I'm running PSE5 on another, older HP laptop just fine, and that image selection feature appears & works just fine when bringing in images from a media card.

     

    - PSE9 runs on my current most-used HP laptop running Windows 7 just fine, except that image selection feature does NOT appear--this is the issue in the Forums. I do not know what other subtle features may not be functioning with this configuration, but I suppose there may be some.

     

    - If PSE9 will not run properly on the common, capable laptops produced by HP these days, there is a serious problem. What company is the largest producer of laptops now?

     

     

    I appreciate your attention to this issue, and we can only assume that Adobe understands that perception IS reality. PSE9 works or it doesn't; suggestions that we don't have the right hardware or drivers, and that our display resolution is too high for photo editing seem unhelpful.

     

    Regards,

    Chris Rasmussen

     
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    Feb 6, 2011 10:03 PM   in reply to phecda

    You can run pse9 at any display resolution you choose, but lower

    (smaller numbers) display resolutions may not provide all the functions

    of pse9 i.e the advanced dialog of the photo downloader or elements may not

    even start.

     

    If you use a display resolution of say 1024 x 576, then some functions will not work

    (some dialogs may not show), but if you switch to a display resolution of 1024 x 800

    or higher (bigger numbers), then everything should work hopefully.

     

    The way adobe words the screen resolution requirements is very confusing.

    They should say for everything to work in photoshop elements 9, you need

    "this" minimum screen resolution instead of just listing the resolution for elements to even run

    though everything may still not work at that listed minimum screen resolution.

     

     

     

     

    MTSTUNER

     
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    Feb 7, 2011 2:44 AM   in reply to MTSTUNER

    What gets me is that no matter how many times you tell adobe that you meet the requirements they listed and still have the problem they keep asking you to check your screen resolution.  You give them the info and show there is a problem, they don't listen.

     

    I'm also having a problem with creating a greeting card.  I'm working through the classroom in a book for elements 9,  it's how i found out about the missing advanced dialog box.  now on page 118 you are making a greeting card, you are asked to select the kodak gallery size 5.00 x 7.00 inches (flat, portrait).  mine is in mm.  they then direct you to select the layouts button under create and you should see some basic templates from which you must select one.

    problem is, i don't see the templates, there is nothing under layouts.  in the size gallery i have options of kodak, shutterfly and local print, everything except local print is empty under layouts.

    if the book, written by the adobe team, says it's there why am i seeing nothing?

     

    anyone else having this problem?

     
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    Feb 7, 2011 8:20 AM   in reply to A.T. Romano

    Adobe shows the following among the system requirements for PSE9:

     

    "1024x576 display resolution at 96dpi or less"

     

     

    Now what does this mean to you? The 'or less' phrase suggests strongly that 1024x576 is the MAXIMUM resolution, not the MINIMUM resolution at which PSE9 will run. This, of course, is crazy.

     

    1024x576 is not an option on my HP notebook. It runs at a maximum resolution of 1366x768, but the display controls permit the display resolution to be set to one of several lower resolutions, down to 800x600, but 1024x576 is not an option.

     

    We are told that PSE9 will prevent the Advanced Dialog from functioning if the display resolution of the vertical res is less than 800. So what does this have to do with their stated requirement for a vertical res of 576?!

     

    This is a problem on my PC, a Hewlett-Packard notebook. From what I can tell virtually ALL HP notebooks have a maximium display resolution of 1366x768. HP is the largest maker of PC's in the world, so how Adobe could design PSE9 that prevents full function at a vertical resolution less than 800 is, well, bizarre.

     

    HP does have a line of notebooke called EliteBook, that have a maximum display resolution of 1600x900; perhaps this is the target PC for PSE9. You can pick one up for $1300! It has Nvidia graphics. Or how about the $1600 HP Envy laptop with full HD display resolution (1080 vertical res)?

     

    But for HP Pavilions, forget it, I guess.

     
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    Feb 7, 2011 8:36 AM   in reply to phecda

    Exactly, how can they tell us that the min requirement is that and then after buying change their minds.

     

    I also have an HP, imagine what HP would say if you told them you won't buy their notebooks because PSE9 is limited to the reso yet Adobe doesn't tell their customers before purchase.

     
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    Feb 7, 2011 9:23 AM   in reply to phecda

    the whole this is BS anyway. One reason to use PSE9 is to catalogue your 

    photos and to place them when downloading from camera or card where you want 

    them  and to also be able to name the photos what the user wants to name 

    them. Just as in past editions of photoshop. I do not want Bird pics in my 

    FAMILY File Folder or Family pics in my Birds Folder.. Resolution should have

    nothing to do with this rather simple step I should think

     

    Michael E Smith

     

     

    In a message dated 2/7/2011 11:23:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Adobe shows the following among the system requirements for  PSE9:

     

    "1024x576 display resolution at 96dpi or less" 

     

     

    Now what does this mean to you? The 'or less' phrase  suggests strongly

    that 1024x576 is the MAXIMUM resolution, not the MINIMUM  resolution at which

    PSE9 will run. This, of course, is crazy. 

     

    1024x576 is not an option on my HP notebook. It runs at a  maximum

    resolution of 1366x768, but the display controls permit the display  resolution to

    be set to one of several lower resolutions, down to 800x600, but  1024x576 is

    not an option.

     

    We are told that PSE9 will prevent  the Advanced Dialog from functioning if

    the display resolution of the vertical  res is less than 800. So what does

    this have to do with their stated  requirement for a vertical res of 576?!

     

    This is a problem on my  PC, a Hewlett-Packard notebook. From what I can

    tell virtually ALL HP  notebooks have a maximium display resolution of

    1366x768. HP is the largest  maker of PC's in the world, so how Adobe could design

    PSE9 that prevents full  function at a vertical resolution less than 800 is,

    well, bizarre. 

     

    HP does have a line of notebooke called EliteBook, that have a  maximum

    display resolution of 1600x900; perhaps this is the target PC for  PSE9. You

    can pick one up for $1300! It has Nvidia graphics. Or how about the  $1600 HP

    Envy laptop with full HD display resolution (1080 vertical res)? 

     

    But for HP Pavilions, forget it, I  guess.

     
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    Feb 9, 2011 3:44 PM   in reply to elemt

    resolution issue should never have  been a problem at all...why can  they

    not just revert back to the file system that was there before. What does 

    resolution have to do with the ADVANCED Dialogue they had before when uploading

    pics to the MyPictures file...not a computer nerd here ut why change

    something  that wasn't broken in the first place!!!!!!!...I am seriously

    considering never  buying or using any adobe products ever again.

     

     

    In a message dated 2/9/2011 6:32:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    I am  getting REALLY fed up (and more than a bit frustrated too) waiting

    for Adobe  to put this problem right. It is slightly more than a month now

    since Pfredd99  got her call from Adobe to say that they were aware of this

    problem with PSE 9  and the difficulties it is causing AND that they were

    working on a  solution.

     

    Were they just fobbing us off?  How long does it  need?  Is it too

    unreasonable to expect it to be corrected by now (it has  existed for months now

    since the product was launched of course)?  Can't  we be given a date when

    Adobe are aiming to make their solution  available?

     

    Meanwhile, this aspect of using PSE is *absolutely  awful and is doing no

    one any good, not least of all Adobe's  reputation.*

     

    By the way, even if HP are the biggest manufacturer  of laptops that don't

    have a resolution that can cope with Adobe's mucked up  resolution issue,

    they are by no means the only laptop manufacturer that falls  into this same

    situation, Sony, Toshiba to mention only some.....this is  EXACTLY the

    problem, Adobe have created one BIG problem for a huge number of  PSE users and,

    as I have said many times in this discussion, it is a growing  number. Buy a

    new PC Notebook/laptop and the chances are that PSE will not  perform

    correctly on it with regard to PSE downloader/advanced dialogue  option. 

    Ahhhhhhhhh

     
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    Feb 12, 2011 3:45 AM   in reply to Michael19952

    I've dumped Organiser as a lost cause and just focus on Editor, which means half of my money invested in the program and half in the textbook has been wasted.  I won't be ugrading on the next PSE, Instead I'll look at other programs.  Can't sell my program copy and I've written too many notes in the book so no one will want either. Lesson learned.  Why pay for a faulty PSE when I can get GIMP for free.

     
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    Feb 12, 2011 3:36 PM   in reply to demonessmoon

    All Adobe really has to do for me to be happy camper is to get the 

    organizer back to where it was before PSE9..how ******* hard could that be? Now  I

    have to download everything in PICASA another FREE Google organzer prgram

    then  opmn up the PSE9 prgram and tell it to open files. A step that I didn't

    have to  take before.Plus sometimes Picasa loses my EXIF data which when

    entering pics in  some contest eliminates my entries. It Sucks Really Sucks!!

     

     

    In a message dated 2/12/2011 6:46:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    I've  dumped Organiser as a lost cause and just focus on Editor, which

    means half of  my money invested in the program and half in the textbook has

    been  wasted.  I won't be ugrading on the next PSE, Instead I'll look at other 

    programs.  Can't sell my program copy and I've written too many notes in 

    the book so no one will want either. Lesson learned.  Why pay for a  faulty

    PSE when I can get GIMP for  free.

     
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    Feb 23, 2011 4:40 PM   in reply to elemt

    I almost feel like going to the BBB for failed promises as stipulated in a 

    contract  that seems to me to be one of a promise to make things better and

    failure to fulfill that obligation ..Still I love the editing portions as

    I  always have but this has become a real downfall in their obligation to me

    and  all purchasers of this product

     

     

    In a message dated 2/23/2011 2:53:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Yes  Michael, I agree, all I want is for Adobe to come up with their

    promised patch  and get PSE 9 working with the advanced downloader option like it

    did in other  versions. It was Jan 7th that Pfredd99 got a call from Adobe

    Support to say  that "Adobe realizes that this is a real problem that affects

    a lot of users  and that they are working on a patch to fix the problem"

     

    And here  we are, all these months later since the launch of PSE 9 and

    weeks after  this so called Adobe undertaking given to Pfredd99 to come up

    with a  patch.  Come on PLEASE, take your ownership of this problem 

    seriously, hurry up and release the wonder patch *or at the very least, add  an

    update to this discussion to keep us informed. *

     
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    Mar 22, 2011 11:50 AM   in reply to Pfredd99

    I too have submitted a bug report form since the advanced dialog box is not available on either my Vista desktop or Windows 7 laptop. I mentioned in it that it should definitely be considered a bug rather than some 'intended functionality' feature as it renders the photo downloader as basically useless.

     
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    Mar 22, 2011 7:30 PM   in reply to kimjane16

    I visited the forum page and found that I could no longer reply?  What's up

    with that?  Anyway, four months ago I was full of hope that this bug would

    be quickly fixed.  Now, I just feel shafted!  Adobe evidently does not care

    about the people who purchase and use their product.  I have submitted

    another bug report, but my confidence that Adobe will ever do anything about

    it is plummeting.  I guess they are just expecting us to purchase a "fixed"

    version 10.   Well, not this gal!  Who knows what bug will make the next PE

    unusable!

     

    Lamenda1967

     
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    Apr 6, 2011 9:46 AM   in reply to elemt

    Quote: The Adobe Photo Downloader is an independent application that  comes with Photoshop Elements Organizer. It has different system  requirements, which are not published with the Photoshop Elements  materials. These requirements include a higher screen resolution than  Photoshop Elements requires to display the application correctly.

     

    per there website, it doesn't look to me as they will fix this problem with the APD .

     
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    Apr 6, 2011 10:36 AM   in reply to pfobriensr

    This still..in the vernacular of the ordinary man...SUCKS!!!

    After all these years I know have to download pics thru another program 

    other the PSE!!! If it comes with PSE then why does it not Work With The

    Editing  Program!!!....It worked fine before and still I am hearing that gobble d

    ****  about this

     

    Michael E Smith

     

     

    In a message dated 4/6/2011 12:47:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Quote: The Adobe Photo Downloader is an independent application  that 

    comes with Photoshop Elements Organizer. It has different  system  requirements,

    which are not published with the Photoshop  Elements  materials. These

    requirements include a higher screen  resolution than  Photoshop Elements

    requires to display the application  correctly.

     

    per there website, it doesn't look to me as they will  fix this problem

    with the APD  .

     
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    Sep 22, 2011 4:52 PM   in reply to elemt

    So now after UPGRADING to my latest version of PS9 I now must PURCHASE the 

    newest version TO GET WHAT I WAS ALREADY GETTING in prior versions?

     

     

    In a message dated 9/22/2011 7:34:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 

    forums@adobe.com writes:

     

    Re:  Where is advanced Dialogue Preference in Elements 9?

    created by elemt (http://forums.adobe.com/people/elemt)  in Photoshop 

    Elements - View the full  discussion

    (http://forums.adobe.com/message/3932094#3932094)

     
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    Nov 15, 2011 2:13 PM   in reply to Michael19952

    I feel the same, why must I now go and pay again for what I had already paid for?  I'm avoiding adobe for a few years until I think it's worthwhile buying because right now it isn't.  I barely use the software, so why bother upgrading.

     
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    Nov 15, 2011 2:24 PM   in reply to demonessmoon

    I'm going to stay away from Adobe products--the Elements 9 problem is unacceptable. I should have returned it at the time.

     

    I'm not using Adobe Acrobat any more, either. Went to Foxit--much better, and none of Adobe's BS.

     

    Jobs was right about Adobe.

     
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