I am using Indesign CS3 to generate the bulk reports automatically(programmatically) using Adobe indesign library . One of the key limitation to this tool is it allows to open only one instance at a time unlike word where multiple instances can be opened at the same time. Is there any adobe indesign too version desktop/server which allows to open multiple instances at the same time. Any help on is appreciated. Thanks.
Hi,
Thanks for the reply. Window>Arrange>New Window will open new document in the same instance. I want to open new Indesign application instance all together. If you know the steps for this, kindly let me know. Thanks.
Does anybody is using indesign server. Does it allow creating multiple instances at the same time.
Regards,
Chaitan.
Chaitangandhi wrote:
I am using Indesign CS3 to generate the bulk reports automatically(programmatically) using Adobe indesign library . One of the key limitation to this tool is it allows to open only one instance at a time unlike word where multiple instances can be opened at the same time. Is there any adobe indesign too version desktop/server which allows to open multiple instances at the same time. Any help on is appreciated. Thanks.
One possible solution is to install ID on a virtual machine - Parallels, VMware Fusion, etc - on the same system, with the same OS that's on the original machine. At least with Parallels on Mac, either ID on the Mac or Windows side can open and work with files created by the version on the other OS. I can't speculate whether this will permit the kind of interaction you need for your purpose.
You might want to examine the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) for any prohibition against using these two instances at the same time with the same license; the license does permit two installs for the same user that are not used simultaneously. If you want to use a single-user license in the role of a server, also check the EULA.
HTH
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
P Spier wrote:
What part of non-simultaneous usage is confusing? Opening two instances of the application on the same license at the same time would be a violation.
Some folks don't know of this limitation. Also, it's worth looking up the issue of using a single license as a server, in the EULA.
And, I'd think it is legal to use two or more single-user installations on the same machine, in different virtual machines, if each one has its own license, though there may be the server-usage issue to be resolved.
Regards,
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
Harbs. wrote:
There are two licensing models for ID Server. One allows for single instances and the other allows for multiple instances.
The single instance license is about $20,000, while the multiple instance license is close to $40,000...
Not intended for your average desktop user...
Harbs
A Google search for "InDesign server license agreement" without quotes turns up some interesting links.
These two may be useful:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/328674
http://www.adobe.com/products/indesignserver/buildsolution/
There's a link in one of them to two threads that discuss outputting PostScript to an Acrobat watched folder, which processes the .ps files into PDF. Although it's not mentioned specifically in them, there's the same server issue in Acrobat, namely, a single license can't be used as if it were a server.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
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What exactly are you doing that requires to have multiple instances that could not be done sequentially, or reverting back to the saved document after some script is run? Or perhaps duplicating the document several times? Maybe whatever script you are running could be designed in a different way, to save sets of data or write certain things to temporary text files.
@PeterG
You said "You might want to examine the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) for any prohibition against using these two instances at the same time with the same license; the license does permit two installs for the same user that are not used simultaneously." I thought that meant you had read the EULA. It's pretty unambiguous on that point.
For everyone's edification about multiple installations and server use with a standard license here's the relevant text:
2. Software License.
If you obtained the Software and any required serial number(s) from Adobe or one of its authorized
licensees and as long as you comply with the terms of this agreement, Adobe grants you a non-exclusive
license to install and use the Software in a manner consistent with its design and Documentation and as
further set forth below. See Section 16 for specific provisions related to the use of certain products and
components, for example font software, Acrobat, After Effects, Adobe Presenter, Contribute, Adobe
Device Central, Flash Player, Flash Builder, and Adobe Runtimes.
2.1 Limited Use. The Software, or portions of the Software, may allow installation and use without a serial
number. If so, you may install but not use such non-serialized Software on any number of Computers as
part of an organizational deployment plan. Further, you may install and use such non-serialized Software
on any number of Computers for demonstration, evaluation and training purposes only and only if any
Output Files or other materials produced through such use are used only for internal, non-commercial and
non-production purposes. You may not use such non-serialized Software after any applicable time-out
period has ended, unless you input a valid serial number under Section 2.2. ACCESS TO AND USE OF
ANY OUTPUT FILES CREATED WITH SUCH NON-SERIALIZED SOFTWARE IS ENTIRELY AT
YOUR OWN RISK.
2.2 General Use. You may install and use one copy of the Software only on the Permitted Number of your
compatible Computers into which you enter a valid serial number.
2.3 Distribution from Server. You may copy an image of the Software onto Computer file server(s) within
your Internal Network for the purpose of downloading and installing the Software onto Computers within
the same Internal Network for use as permitted by Section 2.1 and 2.2.
2.4 Server Use. You may install the Software on Computer file server(s) within your Internal Network only
for use of the Software initiated by an individual from a Computer within the same Internal Network only
as permitted by Section 2.2. The total number of users (not the concurrent number of users) able to use the
Software on such Computer file server(s) may not exceed the Permitted Number.
By way of example, the foregoing does not permit you to install or access (either directly or through
commands, data or instructions) the Software: (a) from or to a Computer not part of your Internal Network,
(b) for enabling Web hosted workgroups or services available to the public, (c) by any individual or entity
to use, download, copy or otherwise benefit from the functionality of the Software unless licensed to do so
by Adobe, (d) as a component of a system, workflow or service accessible by more than the Permitted
Number of users, or (e) for operations not initiated by an individual user (e.g., automated server
processing).
2.5 Portable or Home Computer Use. Subject to the important restrictions set forth in Section 2.6, the
primary user of the Computer on which the Software is installed under Section 2.2 (“Primary User”) may
install a second copy of the Software for his or her exclusive use on either a portable Computer or a
Computer located at his or her home, provided that the Software on the portable or home Computer is not
used at the same time as the Software on the primary Computer.
2.6 Restrictions on Secondary Use by Volume Licensees. If the Software was obtained under an Adobe
volume license program (currently known as Adobe Open Options) by any licensee other than an
educational volume licensee, the second copy of the Software made under Section 2.5 must be used solely
for the benefit and business of that volume licensee. For more information about secondary use by volume
licensees, please visit our Web Site at http://www.adobe.com/go/open_options.
There is also language stating that if you have a dual boot or other system capable of running more than one OS you will need a separate license for each platform if you want to run the software on more than one.
P Spier wrote:
@PeterG
You said "You might want to examine the End User Licensing Agreement (EULA) for any prohibition against using these two instances at the same time with the same license; the license does permit two installs for the same user that are not used simultaneously." I thought that meant you had read the EULA. It's pretty unambiguous on that point.
For everyone's edification about multiple installations and server use with a standard license here's the relevant text:
snipped "the relevant text"
There is also language stating that if you have a dual boot or other system capable of running more than one OS you will need a separate license for each platform if you want to run the software on more than one.
Arrrrrghhhhhhh!!!!! This is the reason that I suggest folks check the EULA directly. I don't think there's a human on the planet who can understand this without hearing "is this right?" in the back of their minds. Probably, that's because the lawyers who wrote it, either had that ambiguity as a goal, or who don't know how ambiguous and confusing it really is.
BUT, thanks, Peter S, for posting it.
Regards,
Peter
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What is the reason behind needing multiple instances of the application running with single documents open per instance?
What is it that makes that different from having a single instance of the applicaiton running with multiple documents open or multiple windows of a single document open?
If there is some other reason, please explain. Someone may be able to help you work out how to make it happen.
-mt
What is the reason behind needing multiple instances of the application running with single documents open per instance?
My long-shot guess would be: "Years of familiarity with developing in VBA." It is (was? I haven't paid attention in a while) a really normal way of handling automation in Word.
peter at knowhowpro wrote:
There is also language stating that if you have a dual boot or other system capable of running more than one OS you will need a separate license for each platform if you want to run the software on more than one.
Arrrrrghhhhhhh!!!!! This is the reason that I suggest folks check the EULA directly. I don't think there's a human on the planet who can understand this without hearing "is this right?" in the back of their minds. Probably, that's because the lawyers who wrote it, either had that ambiguity as a goal, or who don't know how ambiguous and confusing it really is.
I don't find that ambiguous at all. It says if you want to run on more than one operating sysstem, you need a license for each operating system (and in fact the actual EU'LA is probably clearer than my summary statement in that regard, but I didnt include it because I thought it was peripheral to your suggestion of running the SAME OS in a second virtual environment, which would be covered by non-simultaneous use).
I generate more than 2000 reports in Indesign which takes around 5 hours.
Looking at the CPU usage , I can see capacity to run more parellel
processes. This would reduce the time for generating number of reports. I
expect the number to grow to about 4000 report and want to keep the time
frame almost the same. I just cannt do this as Indesign does not let me open
another instance while one instance is alredy running. This means even if I
have server capacity to process more number of parrellel reports, I am
forced to do it in sequence just because of this Indesign limitation. Any
suggestion or work around on this? Thanks.
Suppose a user needs to run two scripts, each one takes half an hour. The user has InDesign installed on his/her desktop and laptop. I disagree that running one script on the desktop and simultaneously running one script on the laptop would be considered "using" both at one time. The user is not "using" anything, rather he/she is simply waiting for the computer to finish processing the commands. This user might be eating lunch or running errands, how could you possibly consider him/her "using" two installations simultaneously?
Ah. I think I understand now.
As you create your report, InDesign CS3 is fully occupied. You cannot perform other actions within InDesign while the report is being generated.
You want to open another instance of CS3 so that you can start another report while the first one is being generated.
With CS5, some tasks have been moved to the background so that you can continue to work while the action is being performed.
Perhaps you can test the demo of CS5 on a non-production machine to see if it will function as you need.
HTH
-mt
Right, I realize what you are saying, that I probably wouldn't get caught.
But I am trying to bring out a point. Similar to where you wouldn't start quiting CS5 before you launch CS4; although technically you are violating the EULA. You are not violating the spirit of the EULA. Similarly, a user running a script on his/her laptop and desktop is not violating the spirit of the EULA.
Hi,
what is the technical difference between below licances.
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