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Doc type problem?

Feb 17, 2011 3:19 AM

Hi, I have an image gallery generated by Adobe Bridge (uses a flash viewer),  and can't get it to display in all browsers.  I suspect that this is to do with  the doc type.

 

Leaving it out altogether works for all browsers except IE8 and Opera.  Strangely, the gallery on its own is fine in these two, but as soon as I build the rest of  the page around it, it falls apart.

Adding a doc type wrecks the display in all browsers, which seems really strange.

 

Bridge generates the page automatically, with this code at the top of the  document (no doc type at all): <html xml:lang="en" lang="en">

I normally use:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html  xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

 

Please see  http://www.kippamatthews.co.uk/galleries.html,  usr - kippa, pw - kippacouk99!

 

(note pg only partly built)

 

Thanks

475 Views   11 Replies   Latest reply: Streetwitch, Mar 1, 2011 8:29 AM
 
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  • SnakEyez02
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    1. SnakEyez02,
    Feb 17, 2011 4:28 AM   in reply to Streetwitch
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    Can you also post a duplicate copy of the page with the doctype declared for us to compare?

     
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  • MurraySummers
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    2. MurraySummers,
    Feb 17, 2011 4:55 AM   in reply to Streetwitch
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    The presence or absence of a doctype will only affect two things:

     

    1.  How the page is validated by the validator, i.e., which standard it's validated against

    2.  How the page is rendered by the browser, quirks mode or standards mode

     

    A missing doctype could not affect whether the page is displayed at all.  For example, when I look at your page in IE8 and view source, I can see that the code for the page is all there.  Could you put this page up in a non-protected location so we can debug the live version?

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    3. Streetwitch,
    Feb 17, 2011 5:49 AM   in reply to SnakEyez02
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    Hi - here's the page with the doc type declared, access details as before:

     

    http://www.kippamatthews.co.uk/galleries_doctype.html

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    4. Streetwitch,
    Feb 17, 2011 5:54 AM   in reply to MurraySummers
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    Hi, here's the unprotected page:

     

    http://www.empathydesign.co.uk/development/galleries.html

     

    Thanks

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    5. Streetwitch,
    Feb 26, 2011 2:32 PM   in reply to MurraySummers
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    Hi Murray, just wondering whether you've had a chance to look at this?

     

    Thanks

     
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  • Nancy O.
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    6. Nancy O.,
    Feb 27, 2011 12:26 PM   in reply to Streetwitch
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    Add a valid XHTML transitional document type and validate your code.

    http://validator.w3.org/

     

    The main problem I see has to do with reusing the img ID "rht_thm"

     

    IDs can be used only 1 time per page.  Class names, however, can be re-used as many times as needed.

    Some browsers are less tolerant of code errors.  So working with valid code (even in test pages) is worth the effort.

     

     

     

    Nancy O.
    Alt-Web Design & Publishing
    Web | Graphics | Print | Media  Specialists 
    http://alt-web.com/
    http://twitter.com/altweb

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    7. Streetwitch,
    Feb 28, 2011 1:49 AM   in reply to Nancy O.
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    Hi Nancy

     

    Thanks, and I've saved the validator link which will be very useful to me.

     

    However, I've not been able to solve the problem. I've put in the transitional doc type and I've changed the multiple ids to classes as you suggest (I am aware that an id should only be used once per page but have been ignoring it as it always seems to work with more than one - I will stop doing this immediately), and I've validated the code using the validator site, but it still doesn't work.  The only browser which seems able to render it correctly is Safari.

     

    Its odd, because the basic gallery is fine - the code seems to fall apart as soon as I try to put it onto my (templated) page - which I really need to do to make it consistent with the rest of the site.

     

    The page link is:  http://www.empathydesign.co.uk/development/galleries_doctype.html

     
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  • pziecina
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    8. pziecina,
    Feb 28, 2011 6:16 AM   in reply to Streetwitch
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    Its odd, because the basic gallery is fine - the code seems to fall apart as soon as I try to put it onto my (templated) page - which I really need to do to make it consistent with the rest of the site.

     

    This may be because the image gallery uses an xml list to link to the images, this means that if you use this in a template then it may not work as it cannot find the images.

     

    PZ

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    9. Streetwitch,
    Feb 28, 2011 8:32 AM   in reply to pziecina
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    Hi, thanks, but its not that.  The file paths are fine - its finding the

    images, but its resziing both the thumbs and the enlarged images, and

    altering the positioning on the page.  I really can't work out what the

    problem is and would be grateful for any ideas.

     

    empathy design

     

    w:  http://www.empathydesign.co.uk

     
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  • pziecina
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    10. pziecina,
    Feb 28, 2011 10:13 AM   in reply to Streetwitch
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    Hi

     

    Have you followed, (or looked at) this tutorial - http://foundationphp.com/tutorials/gallery/embed1.php?

     

    PZ

     
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  • Streetwitch
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    11. Streetwitch,
    Mar 1, 2011 8:29 AM   in reply to pziecina
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    Hi pziecina - thanks, once again - for answering one of my questions.  This is just exactly what I needed.  I have been having problems embedding galleries into pages for some time, but had not come across iframes, which are obviously useful for all sorts of things,

     

    Thanks again

     
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