That's great news! Enjoy it while it works.
One caution though: An old software developer's adage: If a problem seems to go away for no reason, it will usually come back by itself.
I hope your situation proves this adage wrong.
I'm having the same problem on 64-bit Win7. No plug-ins installed, tried the registry hack -- no luck. However, the type of seleciton makes a difference.
Is anyone else noticing these different behaviors? This issue basically renders Photoshop unusable for serious production work, and it's clear this issue is affecting a large number of users. Adobe needs to get on this issue.
Doh, you're right. I'm confusing my frustration with the intermittent system clipboard, and been using Fireworks too much recently.
CTRL+A selects all, but to copy a layer press CTRL+J or click Layer > New > Layer via Copy.
THREE PAGES OF POSTS OVER MANY MONTHS. Imagine if this were a Toyota Prius with an accelerator issue. Can you think of an industry where this is tolerated? Dishwashers mayb? ABOBE, get on it! Put some resources to fix fundamental problems!
ABOBE, get on it! Put some resources to fix fundamental problems!
Please read the topic before posting.
We've spent a lot of time on this, and found that the causes were third party plugins and external applications (especially JDownloader).
We've forwarded all our findings to Microsoft, but there's currently nothing we can do about it.
Chris - Thanks very much for the update. From all the work done to the present, do you have any guidance for Win7/64-bit CS5 users? For example, it seems prudent to check for normal clipboard function after installing any new plugin.
Also note that the issue appears even without any extra Photoshop plugins or out-of-the-ordinary programs installed; my clipboard issues existed on a completely clean install. I only had PS+BridgeCS5, 3dsmax2011, Autocad2011, Lotus Notes and MS Office installed. Clipboarding between the other applications worked flawlessly. Sure, Notes is a possible culprit... it's a weird piece of software. But what makes CS5 clipboard access different from that of the other applications?
Hope you solve it til CS6.
But what makes CS5 clipboard access different from that of the other applications?
We, and Microsoft, have no idea. We're doing things by the book, and it should all be working. But in the failing cases we've seen one of the OS APIs returns bogus information - as if something external was patching the API and got it wrong.
Adobe Team: READ THIS!
Even if I remove all plug-ins from the Plug-ins folder, the problem is still there.
Removing the Plug-ins folder solves the problem. So I guessed that this is
something Photoshop is doing, and after a lot of trial and error, I found this:
If I change the Permissions for CREATOR OWNER on the Plug-ins forlder
to DENY, the problem goes away. But, I do not know if this makes any
problems for any of the plug-ins. So I have tried to find out which entrys that
has to be denied to minimize any side-effects. I found that changing any of
the ones mentiond below, will create a error message whe applied.
This solution also removes the problem with not being able to do more
than one COPY - PASTE or making several PrintScreens without restarting Photoshop.
How to do this:
Right-click on Plug-ins folder (Make shure you are in the 64bit folder)
Go to the Security tab
Click on CREATOR OWNER
Click on Advanced
Click on CREATOR OWNER ( Inherited from C:\Program Files\ )
Click on Change Permissions
Click on CREATOR OWNER ( Inherited from C:\Program Files\ )
Click on Edit...
In Permissions, tick the "Deny"-box for these entry`s:
List folder / read data
Read extended attributes
Create files / read data
Create forlders / append data
Allow the rest in the list.
There should now be a new Permission entry at the top saying Deny
for CREATOR OWNER ( <not inherited> )
Click OK on the to next windows and you are done.
Start Photoshop and be happy until you find out that something is wrong, and post it here.
I guess that it would be enough to tick only one of the boxes to make this problem go away,
but I`ll leave that to others to find out...
Are you sure about that?
Removing all the plugins, or disabling them, is the same as removing the plugins folder.
And as far as we, Microsoft, and other users can determine: the plugins have nothing to do with clipboard problems.
I tried to edit my post, but have no permission??...
Yes ofcoarse I`m shure! I have been testing this all day ant tried to find
out which permissions to Allow/Deny. If you give me permission to
post mor pics, Ill show you the whole prosess.
- Copy/Paste works fine with the solution I presented in my last post.
- Any other settings that allows any of the settings I have listed to be
- denied, will result in a error message.
And so on.. no need to write it all over agein..
" Microsoft, and other users can determine: the plugins have nothing to do with clipboard problems."
Have they tried to completly remove the Plug-ins folder and see what happens?
(Photoshop needs to be closed/restarted.)
That`s what I did. And everything worked fine. I then used the elimination method to
recreate the problem. I even made a new forlder on my desktop called Plugins and
added it to the Photoshop folder. Without adding any plugins and as soon as I had
startet Photoshop, the problem was back. Explain that!
I have very little experience making permission, but as I knew that there was
happening something to this folder, I tried every thing I could think of, and this
is what I found. Now I expect you to explain WHY
Could anyone with this problem please confirm that removing the Plug-ins folder
removes the problem?
Yes ofcoarse I`m shure!
Without the source code to the application, and a complete knowledge of all the APIs involved -- you can't be sure.
I have that knowledge, and am pretty sure that tweaking the plugins folder has absolutely nothing to do with the clipboard problems.
All we know about are the JDownloader bugs (where they patch the clipboard incorrectly), and a likely bug in Microsoft clipboard APIs (which Microsoft is investigating). The clipboard API problem does seem to be fairly random, and could easily hide for a while due to small changes in the memory layout of the app or uninitialized variables in the application memory space.
Have they tried to completly remove the Plug-ins folder and see what happens?
Yes, that is one of our earliest troubleshooting steps to rule out Adobe's plugins, and any third party plugins, as the cause.
I can duplicate Eagleizer's solution. The clipboard on my computer does work after the changes listed. However....
All of my add on Filters, except Topaz, disappeared from the interface
the Delete key no longer worked.
Filters that disappeared after the permission change included; Digimarc; Nik Vivieza 2, HDR Effex Pro; and Imagenomic (all 3).
Note: My Topaz filters are not in a seperate folder in the Plug-ins folder but are shortcuts.
Win7 x64, PS CS5 x64
I ment that I was sure about what I found out. I have no clue about codes LOL
I never said I knew what is causing the problem, I also said that it might
have some sideeffects and others have to figure out that part. I was hoping
that this might give you another clue to find out what is going on. It is not
a good solution to remove the permissions as I have done, as it also
stops many of the plug-ins from loading. But if you need to do a lot of
printscreen - pasting, it is easy to apply and even easyer to remove
again later. Better than restarting Photoshop for every printscreen you`re
going to make. And it`s the only solution I have found so far. Helps me,
hope it helps someone else..
What a waste of time among the passionate. Adobe could fix this but doesn't. Keep going. All of you. Praise management!
And in turn, what a waste of time reading your useless post.
Just how could Adobe fix problems caused by a 3rd party plug-in, pray tell? By disabling the ability to install 3rd party plug-ins?
Hi there. I am really late to this thread, and it's quite a confusing one. I am not sure what's up or down.
Regardless, I just wanted to say that I am having the awful clipboard problem. It really kneecaps my productivity.
I am running Windows 7 Professional x64, with CS5 32bit at the moment. I have no 3rd party plugins.
If I can be of any help at all in solving this problem, I will gladly pitch in.
Same issue here.
WIndows 7, PhotoShop CS5 64 bit
Only difference. I could paste about 2 or 3 different sreenshots before my clipboard wasn't updated anymore. Only a PS restart would clear the clipboard. I''ve been scanning this thread and saw a lot of pointers about Plug-ins. As far as I know I've none, that weren't there with the install, so I tried this and it worked.
So this is what I found out and I realize this sounds absolutely crazy. I'm not an expert, but renaming a folder inside your program files needs administrator approval. I you confirm, you can rename the folder. Same for renaming it back. So my guess, is that there are some rights issues on this folder initially, that mess up the clip board access. By accessing this folder for renaming, those rights get changed and you're back in business.
I know this is a thin one, but it's fast one to check for yourself and maybe it works for you. And unlikely, but maybe this is a new clue for the people of Adobe and MS.
Even though I am running the 32bit version, I tried Yves solution and it worked.
In Windows Explorer I renamed the Plug-ins folder to Plug-ins_ just to change it. I launched PS and copy and paste worked perfectly. I quit PS, renamed the folder back and launched PS again. Copy and paste worked perfectly.
It's weird I know, but it worked.
The only plugin I downloaded, that I am aware of, is "ICOFormat64.8bi" to get support for icons. And the Save as ICO option is still available in my dialog. So for now. Yes, it works.
@Keith. TnX for checking.
I hope there are more people who can have a go at it. If this appears to be working for the majority, maybe the people at Adobe and MS know where to look and hopefully conclude it's an easy to fix thing.
It was a real pain in the ***. I don't know how many of you use repeated screenshots to get the lay outs of their css design right the same way I do (this field needs to be x pixels wider then I had in my previous screenshot to match the original design).... Working this way means about 5 to 10 screenshots a minute. Stopping and starting PS all the time, slows you down quite a bit.
Keeping my fingers crossed for everyone
After several months of working correctly, I now have the clipboard problem again.
The first clip will paste and never again.
I have no new plugins.
I tried the rename, rename Plugins folder to no avail.
I have had this problem for some time. PS CS5 64-bit, Windows 7. I tried renaming the plug in dir and starting PS and the clipboard works fine. I put back the original dir name, started PS and the clipboard is broken again. The only plug in I have purchased is Viveza 2 by Nik.
Just to be absolutely sure... Find the Nik plug-in itself, and rename it by putting a tilde (~) in front of the name to disable it. Make sure the problem follows just the presence/absence of that plug-in.
Assuming that specific plug-in is at fault, It seems pretty clear, then... You need to contact Nik and demand an updated version to fix this problem. Breaking the clipboard is an absolutely unacceptable side effect, and th
Assuming that specific plug-in is at fault, It seems pretty clear, then... You need to contact Nik and demand an updated version to fix this problem.
Breaking the clipboard is an absolutely unacceptable side effect, and they can't very well refute that it's their problem if you present them with this kind of evidence.
By the way, renaming the plug-ins subfolder then renaming it back seems VERY unlikely to solve any problem. To the person or persons who did this and found it to make a difference, I would ask whether it was possible that any other factors changed at the same time. It seems to me it must be a coincidence.
Hi Noel. Being a software developer and architect for over 20 years, I would be one of the first to say that renaming the plug-ins folder and changing it back wouldn't do anything.
But, it did.
I have no freaking idea why it worked, but it did. I can ALT+PRT SCRN all day long and Photoshop works perfectly now. Before it was a productivity nightmare.
I added ~ to the names of the Viveza plug in and its selective tool plugin and the clipboard works great.
I restored the name of just the selective tool and the clipboard is broken again.
only put ~ in front of only the selective tool, not the main plug in and the clipboard works fine.
only put ~ in front of plug ins folder name and clipboard works fine.
These experiments are repeatable.
It appears, in my case, to be the selective tool that comes with the Nik Viveza plug in. I will update my case with them.
You and I seem to share the same background, Keith. I wasn't disputing that you saw what you saw; I believe you.
And if you're like me, you HATE it when the computer does something you can't explain.
I can only guess that starting Photoshop without the offending plug-in present (or some other coincidental factor that occurred when you did that) caused a setting to be changed, where it would not have done that (for some reason) as long as the plug-in was present. It's also just hard to imagine such a setting, that would unclog the clipboard. Lots of stuff that seems unlikely all together in one theory.
Unfortunately your particular sequence doesn't seem to be working for all others.
reference. posts 88 and 118
My guess is that the Nik Software fix for their Color Efex Pro 3.0, which works for me, .will also fix your problem with Viveza 2.
Download this file as described in NIK post 88 and my 118 post
and copy it to the Selective Tool folder.
Restart CS5 and things should be good again.
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