Loading speed for pages in these forums is highly variable t

oday. And I experienced  a temporal variant of the split personality syndrome; details in a new thread.

Addition: 35 seconds to post this message.

Hi Bill, You are the first sign of life I've seen. Are you saying we have ignition? Must be true. Well, at least you were able to login.

Update, lost all of my message except above. Received an "unauthorized" message.

Can we sandbox a Server/Forum/Website? ROFL

I'll head over to the FP Forum, but getting logged off here, doesn't make me hopeful.

See ya again, hopefully,

eidnolb

Hi, Well the FP Forum "seems" to be working, however getting logged off when trying to post the message. So, I'm back to Ctrl+C before trying to post message. Then I try again and use the "D

Update at 3:02PM EDT This is the only part of my reply a few minutes ago to you that was "recovered". I used the "Use Recovered" this time just to see how much was recovered:-)

Here is my Ctrl+C:

Hi, Well the FP Forum "seems" to be working, however getting logged off when trying to post the message. So, I'm back to Ctrl+C before trying to post message. Then I try again and use the "Delete Recovered" and paste my original message.

So far that's working.

I think the time stamps are off though.

At least this thread is working, but I'm still using the Ctrl+C just in case.  Update: glad I did.

eidnolb

Hi John, I'm not having much of #1,2. But #3,4 yes. I've sent 3 messages since before 3PM EDT. I am seeing that after I compose my message (using the Ctrl+C first) it never goes thru the first time, always logs me off. Then my problem is having the message saved and then trying to remember which thread it is for Then when I paste the message after finding the thread, it goes thru.

I haven't been here as long as you and others, but I've never seen anything like this on the Internet at all. And I certainly don't understand what is happening and why it can't be fixed.

Haven't heard from anyone but "us" either.

eidnolb

You guys have patience to hang out here. I have more or less given up. These 6,000 spam messages have done more damage than one would have expected. Does anybody know what sort of spam messages were these, and has Adobe not got enough technical resources to deal with spam messages?

...and the responsiveness of the Adobe Forum servers is still much, much worse than any site I regularly use...

Alas, I see no signs of lasting progress.

Just an update on my last post. After that starting glitch, it appears that the Flash Player Forum is working as it should. Everything going thru, so that is very nice!!

Sort of a strange experience though

eidnolb

Where do they PUT 6,000 spam posts?  Surely you don't have THAT many different forums.

If you're getting spammers making accounts at a rate fast enough that you can't keep up with them, doesn't that say that you need new account opening policies?

Surely there must be a method by which the "normal" behavior of reasonable participants can be monitored and differentiated from that of spammers.  It certainly seems possible for a human to tell whether someone's makig a reasonable post or just a trash post to get an account established.  I report all of those that I see.

-Noel

It's taking me about 10 seconds to load any page of these forums, as compared with the little over 2 seconds of yesterday.

Tai, you are not the only affected participant:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3570542#3570542

I am getting it in Firefox/Mac and Explorer/Win.

Also, loading times today seem to be twice as long as "normal".

If you're getting spammers making accounts at a rate fast enough that you can't keep up with them, doesn't that say that you need new account opening policies?

 

Instead of changing the account opening policies, the simple solution is to allow only 5 messages within any 10 minutes time interval from a particular IP address.  If this is exceeded then that IP should be blocked for 30 minutes before any new messages can be posted.

aioe <http://www.aioe.org/index.php?free-usenet-servers> uses this quite safely and their nntp-newsgroups rarely get more than 2 spams in a day.

Forums gone for several minutes starting some 5 minutes ago...

Noel Carboni wrote:

 

Careful, you might catch heat for not noticing the Emperor's new clothes.

 

In all seriousness, I agree with you.  Adobe puts forth a nice professional face with much of their software.  This forum does not keep that tradition.  It's woefully out of date and many features have simply been hacked off in the name of security or stability.

 

You will find many comments by well-meaning users urging Adobe to do better.  That they do not (nor do they often even answer queries about why) suggests a lack of funding and/or the wrong folks in charge.  Adobe does not realize how important this public face is, especially in light of the fact that the phone support people often send people here.

 

-Noel

There have been people peroidically voicing these same thoughts since  the first trial of the new version of the forums, more than two years  ago. No answers, no changes, except for a few cosmetic ones some months ago that weren't a big improvement. And people looking for help come here not only because the phone support personnel send them here, but mainly because these forums have a reputation for providing very good and very timely solutions for free... Of course, the merit of this is not Adobe's...

Well, you can try this. I don't know if it will be kept, but it is obvious that JC is watching it...

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/837370

eidnolb wrote:

 

Thank you for that info. I just came back from the Spam Report and see that any report I made does not even have "report abuse" on any of my messages. Completely blank, nothing to click on.

 

I've had login account issues twice this month, just have had that resolved again this afternoon.

 

I find it amusing the Spammers have no problem:-)

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

eidnolb

Just checking to see if I am following you.

1. Are you saying that there is no Report Abuse button in any of your posts? If so, it's not at all surprising: I would think that no sane person would want to report oneself as an abuser...

2. There have been login problems in these forums since the first trial of their new version, with some participants more lucky than others. I for one was for many months automatically logged out every time I closed my browser, but also after a period of inactivity of about a couple of hours. This happened regardles of platform (Mac or Win), of browser (Firefox, Explorer and Safari), or of the type of connection (cable, DSL, internal modem + telephone line). Luckily, this is gone now.

3. Well, the spammers rule these forums, don't they?

4. Have you tried reporting a spammer following the link I gave? If so, what happened? (To this minute, I don't see any spam report there).

Message was edited by: Claudio González. Reason: adding point 4.

Please try to report spam in the new thread; nobody seems to be taking it seriously...