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Tai Lao
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Illustrator 10, Convert to Profile: mental block or sudden blindness?

Mar 30, 2011 1:11 PM

I've either hit a mental block or have become temporarily blind, but I cannot find "Convert to Profile" in Illustrator 10.0.3 Mac, running Tiger 10.4.11.

 

Any hint or slap on the head that might jog my memory will be appreciated.  The Help files have not been helpful yet.  As the fortune cookie said, old age always comes at a most inopportune time. 

 

Thanks in advance.

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  • rcraighead
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    1. rcraighead,
    Mar 30, 2011 1:18 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Do you mean "Type>Create Outlines"?

     
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    2. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 1:49 PM   in reply to rcraighead
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    rcraighead wrote:

     

    Do you mean "Type>Create Outlines"?

     

     

    Good grief, no!  I'm not quite that senile yet!  

     

    I'm referring to Converting a document's color profile to a different one, and that's different from Assign Profile.  My working color profile is ProPhotoRGB (to be the same as my working color space in Photoshop CS4) so when I open an sRGB document, I want to Convert to ProPhoto RGB.  Convert, not Assign.

     

    It's elementary Color Management.

     

    Thank you.

     

     

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    3. steve fairbairn,
    Mar 30, 2011 1:56 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Or do you mean Assign Current Working Space (colour profile) when opening a file?

    Or Embed ICC Profiles when saving a file for the first time?

     

    Edit:

    Edit > Color Settings (Cmd+Shift+K)

     
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    4. rcraighead,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:02 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Sorry to offend you.

     
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    5. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:15 PM   in reply to steve fairbairn
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    steve fairbairn wrote:

     

    Or do you mean Assign Current Working Space (colour profile) when opening a file?

     

     

    No!  When you Assign a profile, you preserve the numbers but you change (wreck the hell out of) the colors.  When you Convert to a Profile, you change the numbers but you preserve the colors.

     

    It seems that old AI 10 did not have such a menu Command in the Edit menu, as Photoshop has, so the workaround would be to close the file and pen it again, at which time you do get presented with the choice of CONVERTING to a profile.

     

     

     

    steve fairbairn wrote:

     

    Edit:

    Edit > Color Settings (Cmd+Shift+K)

     

    No, Changing your Color settings is a global dialog box that affects your working space, not your open document.

     

    Thank you for your time anyway.

     
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    6. Jacob Bugge,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:16 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    (Too) Long time no see, Tai Lao.

     

    And what Steve said.

     
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    7. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:26 PM   in reply to steve fairbairn
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    Convert_to_Profile.jpg

     

    CONVERT to Profile Command in Photoshop 11.0.2

     
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    8. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:31 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge
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    Jacob Bugge wrote:

     

    (Too) Long time no see, Tai Lao.

     

    And what Steve said.

     

    Sorry, but no.

     

    If your working space is ProPhoto RGB, and you have been working on a ProPhoto RGB file, you save it, and you want to save a copy as an sRGB file, how are your global Color Settings going to help you CONVERT the existing file to sRGB (say, for web)?

     
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    9. Jacob Bugge,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:31 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Tai Lao,

     

    At least in 10, Illy does not offer that option, so you have to go through Edit>Color Settings and click the desired one.

     
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    10. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:34 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge
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    I just want to convert a SINGLE document to a different Color Profile, not my global Color Settings.

     
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    11. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:35 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge
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    Jacob, that still does not affect my open document.

     
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    12. emil emil,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:42 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    AFAIK, Illustrator never had Convert to Profile.

    I'm not sure how documentation suggests to achieve that if there is any suggestion at all but what I do is duplicate the file, delete everything, then Edit > Assign Profile, and finally copy everything from the original and paste in place with preserving layers to the new document. This is equivalent to Convert to Profile.

     
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    13. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:49 PM   in reply to emil emil
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    Interesting workaround.  Thanks, emil.

     

    Kind of a convoluted way of achieving things, but if it does the job, it'll have to do.

     
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    14. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:51 PM   in reply to emil emil
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    emil emil wrote:

     

    AFAIK, Illustrator never had Convert to Profile…

     

    You mean even newer versions don't?  

     
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    15. emil emil,
    Mar 30, 2011 2:51 PM   in reply to emil emil
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    Forgot to mention in the Color Settings policy "Ask when pasting" should be checked

     
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:52 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Tai Lao wrote:

     

    emil emil wrote:

     

    AFAIK, Illustrator never had Convert to Profile…

     

    You mean even newer versions don't?  

    I'm using the latest

     
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    Mar 30, 2011 2:57 PM   in reply to emil emil
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    emil emil wrote:

     

    Forgot to mention in the Color Settings policy "Ask when pasting" should be checked

    Actually ignore that, I just check and it is not required. The default behavior converts with just a warning.

     
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    18. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 3:16 PM   in reply to emil emil
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    emil emil wrote:

     

    Tai Lao wrote:

     

    emil emil wrote:

     

    AFAIK, Illustrator never had Convert to Profile…

     

    You mean even newer versions don't?  

    I'm using the latest

     

     

    Ouch! 

     
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    19. Tai Lao,
    Mar 30, 2011 7:43 PM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    Posted a Feature Request for future versions of Illustrator.

     

    Thank you all for your input.

     

     

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    20. Jacob Bugge,
    Mar 31, 2011 1:17 AM   in reply to Tai Lao
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    For my insignificant part you are welcome, Tai Lao.

     
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