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Spam report thread [5]

Apr 12, 2011 11:32 AM

May I take the liberty to open a new Spam Report thread? The previous one, numbered [4], has been archived for hours with no explanation at all and, to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been replaced so far.

Considering that most of the removed features of these forums have been "temporarily disabled for security reasons", I think that this thread is esential. Of course, people in charge of the forums can link it as appropriate, or remove it if they fell like it.

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1. adobe-admin,

Apr 12, 2011 11:45 AM in reply to Claudio González

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What do you mean by "archived?"

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2. Claudio González,

Apr 12, 2011 11:55 AM in reply to adobe-admin

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This:

(my underlining), which for all practical purposes is the same as locking it...

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3. adobe-admin,

Apr 12, 2011 11:54 AM in reply to Claudio González

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OK. Not sure why that appears as archived. Off to investigate.

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4. Claudio González,

Apr 12, 2011 11:59 AM in reply to adobe-admin

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adobe-admin wrote:

OK. Not sure why that appears as archived. Off to investigate.

Sorry, I edited my previous message because including the image failed. I thought I could do it before you replied, but failed...

Thanks for your interest...

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5. adobe-admin,

Apr 12, 2011 12:07 PM in reply to Claudio González

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Archiving is an "automated" process that happens to threads that have not had any activity in a while. That thread had messages posted yesterday. Hence my initial confusion about it being archived. I'm not aware of a way for someone to manually archive a thread.

Keeps life interesting!

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6. Claudio González,

Apr 12, 2011 12:19 PM in reply to adobe-admin

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adobe-admin wrote:

Archiving is an "automated" process that happens to threads that have not had any activity in a while. That thread had messages posted yesterday. Hence my initial confusion about it being archived. I'm not aware of a way for someone to manually archive a thread.

Keeps life interesting!
Thanks. Now the big question is: should we keep this thread, or would it be more polite for you to delete it and open a new one? I won't mind if you choose to do the second.

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7. adobe-admin,

Apr 12, 2011 3:14 PM in reply to Claudio González

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This one is fine by me. I've updated the link on the Comments front page.

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8. Claudio González,

Apr 12, 2011 3:20 PM in reply to adobe-admin

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OK, thanks. Let's hope that reports start coming...

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9. adobe-admin,

Apr 12, 2011 3:40 PM in reply to Claudio González

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Guess we can't hope for no spam and no reports...

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10. John Hawkinson,

Apr 12, 2011 6:49 PM in reply to Claudio González

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I gather we're supposed to report spam here rather than using the Report Abuse link?
This: Re: What do pink-highlighted squares mean? is spam.

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11. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 8:42 AM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/thread/837370    Spam?

http://forums.adobe.com/people/123boling123

Flash Player Forum   This is either Spam or he doesn't realize his replies have nothing to do whatsoever with Flash Player!!

Thanks,

eidnolb

Message was edited by: eidnolb added add'l comment

Message was edited by: eidnolb    adding user name

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12. Claudio González,

Apr 13, 2011 2:53 AM in reply to John Hawkinson

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John, eidnolb.

In the previous Spam thread, we were asked to report spam here by link to the username of the author (go to her/his profile), not to specific messages. The latter method works well when one reports spam using the Report Abuse button. Identifying the author is more useful for posting here, because it allows adobe-admin to search for other similar posts, which he cant do if the message reported through the button has already been deleted by someone else.

eidnolb, the link you gave points to this thread!

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13. Jochem van Dieten,

Apr 13, 2011 3:14 AM in reply to John Hawkinson

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John Hawkinson wrote on 11/04/13 03:49:
I gather we're supposed to report spam here rather than using the Report Abuse link?

It is a matter of personal preference for both the reporter and the
moderator / admin. I pretty much ignore what is reported here and only
respond to what is in the moderation queue.

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14. Kami Bambiraptor,

Apr 13, 2011 6:53 AM in reply to Claudio González

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Spammers back in the Lounge. Just like almost everyday.

http://forums.adobe.com/people/pulangkabayo1212

http://forums.adobe.com/people/screennamankoto

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15. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 8:27 AM in reply to Claudio González

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Hi Claudio Sorry, that is what I meant to do. I had the username and then went back to check a thread and didn't realize I posted the thread instead! I even read John's post about that, good grief:-) I went from this person's profile and then back to checking the various threads and then posted the thread!!

Thanks for reminding me:-)

eidnolb

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16. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 8:37 AM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/people/kyhrfyjf%20yifruyjf

eidnolb

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17. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 8:51 AM in reply to Claudio González

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10-12 threads in the last 10 minutes!

http://forums.adobe.com/people/bzizmonfd

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18. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 9:57 AM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/people/mybuddyboard This spammer is posting on the Forums HORRIBLE thread!!

eidnolb

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19. Phillip Jones,

Apr 13, 2011 10:12 AM in reply to eidnolb

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Very last item in this thread is spam.

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3611775#3611775

Not the whole thread

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20. adobe-admin,

Apr 13, 2011 10:18 AM in reply to Jochem van Dieten

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And I, on the other hand, check in here in case something wasn't in the Abuse Queue. This thread works better/faster for me. So, either way it should get covered.

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21. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 10:21 AM in reply to Phillip Jones

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Hi Phillip, I didn't think I indicated that the "thread" was Spam, only indicated "where" this Spam was posted. Then I posted the user name. Hard to tell where the person decides to post next.

Isn't that the way to report this?

I don't know of any other way, so if that wasn't correct please let me know.

Thanks,

eidnolb

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22. Phillip Jones,

Apr 13, 2011 10:52 AM in reply to eidnolb

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All I know is I get email notices of all topics I read. and I got one from That thread and the very last fellow was promoting some type of forum not related to Acrobae or Adobe. I have also posted an abuse report , but I don't it marks the whole post as abuse or just the particular item being reported.

No you didn't do things wrong!

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23. Claudio González,

Apr 13, 2011 11:00 AM in reply to eidnolb

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eidnolb wrote:

Hi Phillip, I didn't think I indicated that the "thread" was Spam, only indicated "where" this Spam was posted. Then I posted the user name. Hard to tell where the person decides to post next.

Isn't that the way to report this?

I don't know of any other way, so if that wasn't correct please let me know.

Thanks,

eidnolb
Hello my blonde friend,

To the best of my knowledge, there are the two ways to report abusive messages in these forums:

1. Use the Report Abuse button on the message you want to report. This reports that message only, not the full thread. I would think that what happens when someone sees that report depends on the first the person who reads it. As an absolute minimum, that message will be deleted.

2. Report the message in this thread. Adobe-admin has requested that reports sent here include the link to the profile of the author of the messages, not to the offending message, so that he can take radical action as soon as he reads a report, even desabling the author.

Again to the best of my knowledge, none of these two methods guarantees instant action, for obvious reasons; and it may well happen that nothing is done for several hours. Both have advantages and disadvantages, and in both cases the least that will happen is that the reported message will be eventually deleted. So which method to use is a matter of personal preferences, or of one's previous experiences with each method.

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24. Kami Bambiraptor,

Apr 13, 2011 11:06 AM in reply to eidnolb

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eidnolb wrote:

10-12 threads in the last 10 minutes!

http://forums.adobe.com/people/bzizmonfd

My heavens! I guess this explains why it occasionally takes a few hours for the de-spammers
to remove some of the spam that gets reported here. I should cut (at least some of) the sna
rky comments (at least about the spam removal; the software here on the other hand....
)

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25. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 11:23 AM in reply to Phillip Jones

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Hi Phillip, I also receive the Spam Report posts from anyone that posts there as well as the "Horrible" and various other Forums and just check the Forums so I know what has been reported etc.

On the Flash Player Forum, there are times I use the Report abuse feature depending on the thread/message etc. For actual Spam, I use the Spam Report site.

My understanding is that the report abuse feature only pertains to that particular thread if there are no replies to use the report abuse feature on. If using the report abuse feature from a post itself, I am under the impression that it applies to that particular message/poster.

Claudio will let me know if I'm not correct:-)

I understand John's point and agree with it; the faster you can report Spam here, the better.

Thanks,

eidnolb

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26. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 11:38 AM in reply to Claudio González

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Dear Compadre:-)

I agree with your Point#1 & #2. Entiendo tambien.

Point#3...That's true. However, since John has explained why it's easier and faster for him, then using the Spam Report thread is the better I think. The faster we can get the Spammers reported, the better.

I use the Report abuse on the FP Forum mainly on the message and users posting their websites/advertising etc.

Muchas Gracias,

eidnolb

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27. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 11:44 AM in reply to Kami Bambiraptor

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Hi Kami, I try not to fuss at the time it takes for the Spam to be removed as I'm sure they have more to do. I just wish there were a better way to remove it faster by those that find it.

All the Spam on the FP Forum is gone!!! Yeahhhhhh!! Thanks John!!

I don't know which Forum receives the most, but I think the FP Forum is in the top 3 at the very least:-)

Regards,

eidnolb

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28. Jochem van Dieten,

Apr 13, 2011 1:03 PM in reply to eidnolb

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eidnolb wrote on 11/04/13 20:46:
I don't know which Forum receives the most, but I think the FP Forum is in the top 3 at the very least:-)

The Flash Player forum consistently gets about 20 per day for the last 2
months. That is manageable because people report them. The real danger
is the forums like all the Flash Lite stuff, the deprecated LiveCycle
versions, 2 of the Connect forums, and all the MarketPlaces / Exchanges.
You see spammers posting a single message there and if it is still there
a week later they let loose. We have had 5 forums this year that got
more spam in a day than the Flash Player forum gets in 3 months. At one
point spam in one of the Acroat forums outpaced all other messages in
all other forums by a factor 3 for 4 days.

A pretty big contributing factor at the moment is the broken search. The
usual pharma spammers can be found with a simple single keyword which
still works. For some of the other stuff that is currently popular
amongst spammers you need to combine multiple keywords and as soon as
you do that the search breaks and returns zero hits.

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29. Claudio González,

Apr 13, 2011 2:01 PM in reply to Jochem van Dieten

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Jochem, thanks for a frank and much needed explanation of the state of affairs.

I wonder if Adobe and/or Jive are willing to do a serious effort to have a fully working search engine. It would not only be a great help for reducing the spam problem; it would also be a most welcome gift for us plain users, many of whom have asked for it for a long time.

As many have commented many times, it would seem that Adobe has forgotten the meaning and importance of the expression "public image".

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30. eidnolb,

Apr 13, 2011 2:05 PM in reply to Jochem van Dieten

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Thanks Jochem, that's interesting and helpful to understand how the spammers can and do operate. Especially on those threads you mentioned. So suspect would be those newly registering and not starting a thread, but just in waiting for an opportune time to Spam all at once. A "gang" so to speak. There is no reason for anyone to Register and not start a thread unless they would be a prospective Spammer in my opinion. Same thing if they just registered and replied nonsense to a thread already established.

I don't understand the Technicalities of what is involved, but these newly registered and not starting a thread would be put in a holding cell. They would have 1 day to start a thread or would stay in the holding cell:-)

When you speak of the search feature, are you referring to the "Search Forums" feature at the top of a Forum? Or do you have a separate Spam Search function? I've never searched for Spammers so probably don't understand how that works. Do you need some new keywords? LOL Sorry, I know it's not funny. It's costly both in time for all concerned and money as well.

Thanks,

eidnolb

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31. Kami Bambiraptor,

Apr 14, 2011 6:58 AM in reply to Claudio González

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A rain of spammers in the Lounge:

http://forums.adobe.com/people/pgdsolmdksh

http://forums.adobe.com/people/randaee

http://forums.adobe.com/people/piyestawalapayudto

[Edit: and yet MORE spammers. ]

http://forums.adobe.com/people/pamhen

http://forums.adobe.com/people/Philips143

http://forums.adobe.com/people/MTSTUNER

http://forums.adobe.com/people/amulyaa
http://forums.adobe.com/people/MTSTUNER

Message was edited by: Kami Bambiraptor to add more spammers.

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32. Pat Willener,

Apr 13, 2011 8:00 PM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/people/123boling123 - posts apparent legitimate questions in unrelated topics, with a link to a spammy website with absolutely no Flash content.

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33. Bill Hunt,

Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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Here's another: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/838713?tstart=0

Profile: http://forums.adobe.com/people/ammycruise

Hunt

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34. Bill Hunt,

Apr 14, 2011 8:07 PM in reply to Bill Hunt

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And another: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/838720?tstart=0

Profile: http://forums.adobe.com/people/Onehundredsixtytwo

Hunt

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35. Bill Hunt,

Apr 14, 2011 8:12 PM in reply to Claudio González

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They are active tonight. Here is one more: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/838715?tstart=0 & here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/838714?tstart=0

Profile: http://forums.adobe.com/people/ammycruise

Hunt

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36. Stix Hart,

Apr 15, 2011 3:24 AM in reply to Bill Hunt

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This is the latest tool:

http://forums.adobe.com/people/leichao

Delete the frickin fricker! NOW!!!

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37. Jacob Bugge,

Apr 15, 2011 3:54 AM in reply to Claudio González

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Still at it and busy, http://forums.adobe.com/people/leichao

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38. eidnolb,

Apr 15, 2011 12:19 PM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/people/akhmedonline    Sports Live!! LOL

     3 more threads in the time it took me to post the one!!

eidnolb

Message was edited by: eidnolb   more

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39. eidnolb,

Apr 16, 2011 8:13 AM in reply to Claudio González

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http://forums.adobe.com/people/bzizbhjhvbn 3 threads so far

eidnolb

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