Adobe Forums: Major font rendering issue (latest OSX build / Quadcore MacBook Pro)

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roth_ritter,

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Mar 31, 2011 4:11 PM

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All of my fonts already validate through FontBook and I still have the issue. You may see it return after a while.

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dingohart,

Apr 1, 2011 1:44 PM

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The issue appears to be with OS 10.6.7. Reinstalling Snow Leopard and upgrading to the OX 10.6.6 combo fixed it for me.

It's a shame that Apple releases these upgrades without testing them. When I originally spoke with Apple Care they made it sound like there's a possible lack of communication between Adobe and themselves - possibly due to Apple's resistance to putting Flash on the iPad/iPhone.

What really is a shame is how far Apple has fallen. Now all they seem to be concerned with is how many facial piercings their Apple Store employees have.

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matedobray,

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Apr 1, 2011 2:48 PM

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Same problem here on a Late 2008 MacBook Pro running OS X 10.6.7... The issue started a few days ago, maybe right when I upgraded to 10.6.7...

How can I downgrade back to 10.6.6 without losing any of my data? I could restore from Time Machine but then it would not restore all the files that have been created since the update... And I can't restore them manually as I don't remember which files have been changed since then.

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dingohart,

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Apr 1, 2011 3:00 PM

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Re-install from the Snow Leopard install disk (it won't remove any of your files or programs). I found that after doing this my Mac Mail had a problem with my SMTP server (i.e. it wouldn't send mail). Installing the 10.6.6 combo pack fixed that issue.

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matedobray,

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Apr 1, 2011 3:10 PM

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Thanks, I guess I'll have to do that then... Strange that there is no easier way to downgrade, I think in Windows you could just uninstall an update, I thought there would be something similar for OS X...

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tenzero5,

Apr 2, 2011 2:50 AM

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Any more news on an official fix for this? I rolled back to 10.6.6 and all is good but now my iphone won't sync. I read somewhere that this will happen and it's oh so annoying...

Come on guys sort this please.

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dingohart,

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Apr 2, 2011 10:08 AM

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Nothing from apple. My tier 2 Apple Care contact was interested in me sharing the fix with him but that was about it. I was hoping that they might extend my Apple Care plan considering I wasted a day to fix a problem caused by their flakey update but they wouldn't. Quite disappointed with Apple.

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flicea,

Apr 7, 2011 5:58 PM

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Hi,

I was having the same issue, here's what solved it for me:

Go into user > library > application support > adobe > Flash CS5 > en_US > Configuration > fontinfo.txt and move this file to another folder, don't delete it in case something goes wrong, I had no problems but just to be safe.

Restart Flash.

It worked for me, I hope it helps.

Regards,

Paco L.

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dustin5,

Apr 8, 2011 8:55 AM

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This seems to be on the right track. However, once flash regenerated a fontinfo.txt file after quitting, my fonts broke again.

I took a look inside the file in question and noticed that fonts I was having trouble with (HelveticaNeueLTStd 23, 33, 43, 53) all had odd entries for "widths" and "heights":

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-ThEx widths="37,0,0,0,0" heights="11,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-UltLtEx widths="35,0,0,0,0" heights="11,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-LtEx widths="38,0,0,0,0" heights="11,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-Ex widths="39,0,0,0,0" heights="11,0,0,0,0">

While some had entries like this:

<ClarendonLTStd-Light sample="" widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0">

So I quit Flash again and edited the newly-created fontinfo.txt file to make all my problem fonts' widths and heights = "0,0,0,0,0".

Restarted Flash and everything seems fine for now, of course YMMV.

I don't know what that did exactly, maybe someone can shed some light on that.

All I know is that I can again consistently use the fonts I couldn't use after the 10.6.7 update.

Regards,

Dusty

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matedobray,

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Apr 8, 2011 10:22 AM

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Changing all the values to zeroes in the fontinfo.txt file solved most of the issues but some are still left. However, I found that changing all my text fields to "Use Device Fonts" solves the problem, at least for now. I don't know what the differences are between the various options there (Anti-Alias for Readability, Use Device Fonts, etc...), but it sure did help.

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dustin5,

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Apr 8, 2011 10:35 AM

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"Use Device Fonts" does seem to work, but does that impact the viewing of the swf if the viewer (other than the creator) doesn't have the font installed? If so, would embedding do the trick?

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matedobray,

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Apr 8, 2011 10:49 AM

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I have loads of Dynamic Text Fields, so I have them embedded anyway. I have not noticed a bigger difference, just that maybe the lines are spaced slightly differently. I have not tested on other computers, but as I'm using Myriad Pro, I don't think there's any computer that doesn't have that font. I think (hope) it comes preinstalled on Windows and OS X alike... Can someone confirm?

It would make sense for embedding to allow the font to be visible on every computer, though I haven't tested.

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flicea,

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Apr 8, 2011 12:15 PM

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The bug is back. I restarted Flash and everything was working. But after a system restart the fonts broke again. Strange.

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dustin5,

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Apr 8, 2011 1:30 PM

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Flash saves a new copy of the fontinfo.txt file every time you quit the application. It is very tedious, but you have to change the file before you launch Flash again.

Here's my workflow:

Make sure I have activated the fonts I need
Launch Flash
Open projects I'm working on
Curse Adobe/Apple
Quit Flash
Edit /User/username/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Flash CS5/en_US/Configuration/fontinfo.txt (widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0" for all affected fonts). I put an alias to it in my Finder window toolbar.
Open Flash and my project(s) again
Work

If you quit Flash again, be aware your fontinfo.txt file will get reverted to what Flash thinks it should be (wrong).

I have not needed to restart my computer for this to work consistently, so the time investment is minimal and hopefully this is a temporary workaround until the situation is remedied by our friends at Apple and Adobe.

I find it interesting that Flash seems to be the only one in the suite to have a fontinfo.txt file. Leftover from Macromedia days? Much of this application still is...

Good Luck,

Dusty

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roth_ritter,

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Apr 8, 2011 1:39 PM

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Can the "fontinfo.txt" file be file locked so it won't be updated by Flash? I suppose you could also whip up a simple Automator script to revert to the old one.

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dustin5,

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Apr 8, 2011 1:51 PM

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Thought about locking, but if you activate additional font(s) to use, they'll need to be added (although likely improperly) to the file to be accessible by Flash.

I have this copied to a sidenote entry (awesome little app for this sort of thing http://www.chatelp.org/?page_id=5) so I can just replace the block each time:

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-ThEx widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-UltLtEx widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-LtEx widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0">

<HelveticaNeueLTStd-Ex widths="0,0,0,0,0" heights="0,0,0,0,0">

Automator might work for replacing content inside the file because it seems to at least put the SAME bad content in there every time, I've just never had much luck using it.

Dusty

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j.delamater,

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Apr 8, 2011 3:34 PM

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i found it much easier to just convert the OTF fonts to TTF.

If you don't have a font converting program, you can use the URL below. I don't have a conversion program, because they are expensive, and the website worked a treat.

http://www.freefontconverter.com/

here's what I did...

Moved OTF fonts out of /User/[user name]/Library/Fonts
converted OTF to TTF at website. sadly it is a one at a time process, so i only did the fonts that were critical to my work flow at the time
move TTF fonts into the user fonts folder.

The fonts that were converted work flawlessly now.

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matedobray,

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Apr 9, 2011 7:34 AM

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Thanks, that worked for me, even with "Anti-Alias for Readability". So far. Hope it stays like this!

What's the difference between OTF and TTF, other than the extension?

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Cool_Hand,

Apr 9, 2011 9:47 AM

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There is a discussion on the Apple forums about this major problem:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2792142&start=45&tst art=90

It seems that clearing your font cache's works. It worked for me so far.

You can clear the cache with Onxy

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11582/onyx

It was quite a week working with and around this problem.

Cheers,

Luke

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spudnut,

Apr 26, 2011 5:51 PM

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Apple has provided a fix today! Works great. Download here: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1377

Thanks Adobe for doing your part!

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flicea,

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Apr 26, 2011 7:42 PM

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Yep, just installed the software update from apple and the bug seems to be gone. Thanks to everyone for contributing with your solutions, you were very helpful, saved me hours of work.

Regards,

Paco

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lennifer,

May 10, 2011 4:39 AM

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This isn't just a 10.6.7 issue. I'm running 10.6.6 at work and have this same font problem. So that Apple update for 10.6.7 isn't going to be much use to me!

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louisling,

May 10, 2011 8:22 AM

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yup...i totally agree !

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