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Joke of the day

Mar 16, 2011 3:17 PM

Reloading one of the forum pages, I suddenly had the following message on the screen. A moment later I could get to the forum. I like the note.

 

 

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(Mar 16)

 

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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 3:21 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Can you tell us approximately what time?

     
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    Mar 16, 2011 4:08 PM   in reply to adobe-admin

    I also received the notice, although I didn't read it and didn't record the time, but I would say it wasn't more than a couple of hours ago.

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 4:11 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Thanks

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 4:13 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Do you recall what you were doing when you got that error message?

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 4:29 PM   in reply to adobe-admin

    I think I was trying to access the Forum in Spanish using my bookmark, but I'm not sure.

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 4:32 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    OK. Thanks!

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 16, 2011 5:17 PM   in reply to adobe-admin

    Not sure about Claudio's actions, or timings, but at about 10:30AM, PDT (-8GMT) today, Wednesday, March 16, 2011, I got similar probably 10 times.

     

    In my cases, I was reading the Premiere fora, and having to log-in between each thread read. I'd then need to log-in to get to Reply, and then again, when I went to Post Reply. About 20% of the time, and especially when trying to log back in, I got that message. Often, if I did get logged-in, I would be taken to the main Adobe Forum page, and then have to navigate back to the product forum of choice, PrElements, PrPro CS5, PrPro CS4 & Earlier, or the Video Lounge.

     

    After severe frustrations, I just did other things. As of 4:00PM PDT (same day), things seem to be OK, but earlier, the forum was about as bad as it has been, including several "Black Fridays" before.

     

    Do not know if any of that helps, but at least is should give you a time frame in San Jose, CA.

     

    Good luck to us all, and thank you for looking into things - they have gotten downright painful.

     

    Hunt

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 25, 2011 2:54 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob, if this is an Adobe/Jive joke, it doesn't make me laugh. Quite the opposite.

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 25, 2011 6:22 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob Bugge wrote:

     

    The joke of this day seems to be that new threads/threads with new contents are no longer shown in bold, and the latter without the addition (Updated).

     

     

    I have been seeing that since yesterday.  Right now, all the text looks like it does if I am not logged in.

     

    On one occasion I opened the Lightroom forum and the highlighted topics (some with "updated" below the subject) looked as expected.  However, as soon as the page finished updating the usual highlighting of the subject disappeared.

     

    Actually, the forum appearance is the same as I would see if I were not logged in.  The page header indicated that I am logged in but I can't find a way to log out.

     

    Ah nuts!  I now see that I have to go to the forum index page in order to log out.  Would someone please tell me why I should have to do that?

     

    Message was edited by: Bob_Peters

     

    ...and now the Lightroom forum looks like I expected.  What the heck is going on?

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Mar 25, 2011 7:45 AM   in reply to Bob_Peters

    Same thing happened to me starting last night. Looged off twice before it cleared up.

     

    (I posted a new thread on it not knowing that you all had already mentioned it in this thread.)

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Apr 18, 2011 8:22 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Sounds like the problem I reported here:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/838494?tstart=0

     

    I think you just have to be a slowpoke to get an edit through.

     

    Edit:  Now THAT's interesting...  I saw that this thread had popped to the top, and was indicated as "unread" by the Read Tracking feature.  I didn't notice that your post was old, Jacob.

     

    -Noel

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Apr 18, 2011 10:13 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob,

     

    Methinks that you are just too quick with your edits. Relax, exhale, and THEN edit the Reply.

     

    See the Replies in Noel's linked thread. I could not understand why this was happening to others, then I got quick, and it happened to me too.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Apr 18, 2011 1:54 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob,

     

    I understand. Once one has Replie, then that post cannot be edited by the mortal users - only by the MOD's.

     

    Still, it seems to be time sensitive. Not sure which takes longer - failing to post the edits, or waiting a moment. When I am trying to beat a Reply, I have taken to Selecting, then Ctrl+C that edit - just in case.

     

    I had two Edit situations today, and one was a very active thread. I expected to have my Edits not take, but today they did. Maybe dependent on server traffic at that moment?

     

    Good luck to us all,

     

    Hunt

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Apr 18, 2011 2:32 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Could the time needed to wait to get an edit accepted be one and the same as the time after one starts to edit and the time Jive automatically inserts a newline character?

     

    Or this might just be some kind of double posting protection at work.

     

    -Noel

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Apr 18, 2011 3:55 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    It could be related, but since I went to Chrome, from IE7, I have not had one phantom Line Break, but have finally encountered the problem with an edit not taking.

     

    As far as double-posting prevention, I do not think so, as I have Posted, then accidentally hit Back and double-posted in pretty short order. [This has happened with phone calls, and my personal inability to multitask... ]

     

    Hunt

     
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    Apr 23, 2011 4:14 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Yes, I have gotten a few of those too - one, just today. They more often show up, when the fourms are on the fritz, and phantom log-outs are everywhere, but they do not seem to be log-in dependent. In today's case, I just did a Ctrl+C for the reply, and hit Cancel, only to see that the Reply HAD posted????? Glad that I did not hit Post Reply a second, or third time.

     

    Hunt

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Apr 24, 2011 1:21 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Yes,

     

    There IS weirdness today. On the main forum page, see the announcement.

     

    I am seeing the "(Updated)" lable, with some odd Reply counts, and also missing Replies from the listed Last Poster.

     

    I assume that these are all related, but that is just a guess.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Apr 29, 2011 2:13 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    That's not a Joke!!!    

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    May 12, 2011 10:31 AM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    This is database skew between 1 of the 4 servers.

    See http://forums.adobe.com/thread/850374?tstart=0.

    Basically you can delete your cookies and reload the page up to ~10 times.

     

    Unfortunately it seems for some threads, you have to not be on the bad server to see the full thread.

    For other threads, you must be on the bad server to see the full thread.

     

    I hope there are not threads that have different contents on different servers that are not subsets of each other...

     

    anyhow, it's being worked on by adobe-admin (he has escalated it with Jive).

     
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  • Jochem van Dieten
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    May 12, 2011 10:45 AM   in reply to John Hawkinson

    John Hawkinson wrote on 11/05/12 19:31:

    This is database skew between 1 of the 4 servers.

     

    Cache skew, the database is consistent.

     

     

    I hope there are not threads that have different contents on different servers that are not subsets of each other...

     

    There are if you use the website or reply by email. Outgoing email

    notifications are sent after a commit and commits are consistent so they

    have no problems. The webservices bypass the cache as well and are

    always consistent.

     
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  • John Hawkinson
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    May 12, 2011 11:28 AM   in reply to Jochem van Dieten

    I gather the commit does not invalidate the cache on all nodes? That seems

    wrong (though perhaps that is a config error in this case with 42P).

     

    What are the 'webservices' that bypass the cache? Surely not the web site

    itself.

     
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    May 12, 2011 12:00 PM   in reply to John Hawkinson

    webservice is an API for accessing the forum independently from the web interface.

     

    Jochem uses it extensively and built an AIR forum client based on it.

     

    Jochem, any chance of getting that updated?

     

    Harbs

     
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  • Jochem van Dieten
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    May 13, 2011 12:14 AM   in reply to Harbs.

    Harbs. wrote on 11/05/12 21:00:

    Jochem uses it extensively and built an AIR forum client based on it.

     

    Jochem, any chance of getting that updated?

     

    Last September I had a conf call with Jive about the current state of

    the REST APIs and their future plans to fix the bugs and document the

    idiosyncrasies of the REST APIs. I am under NDA so I can't tell you what

    they told me, but my own conclusion is that an AIR client is just not

    going to happen for a long time.

     
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