The agony of flattening layers with blend modes
Apr 15, 2011 6:30 PM
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wow, not bad. I asked you to do exactly that in post #4, #16, #36, #39, #43, #49, #51
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in post #55 you finally came round to do it
StrongBeaver wrote:
I've posted the original photoshop fileOK, anyway,
StrongBeaver wrote:
Merge the SubGroup `MERGE` then merge the SubGroup `MERGE2` keeping all blending modes intact then merge both those merged SubGroups and save as PNG-24 image.
The result should look as it did upon loading the Photoshop file with the black background but with all transparent pixels removed, including the black background.So is that how you want your PNG-24 file (click to enlarge)?
If so, it's easy:
(1) select the top-most element (layer or group) (in your case the group "GroupMerge")
(2) CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+E (stamp visible)
(3) with magic wand (tolerance 0, contiguous: OFF, sample all layers: ON, sample size: point sample) click somewhere in a black area (e.g. bottom right corner)
(4) image > crop
(5) file > save as > png
And that's only if you absolutely want to merge, which in this case (if I understood your instructions quoted above correctly) is absolutely not necessary. All you have to do if you want to obtain the PNG file I posted are: steps 3-5.
Steps 1+2 (merging) are unnecessary in this case.
Hence why Noel Carboni rightfully said:
So DEFINE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH INSTEAD OF GETTING BOGGED DOWN IN THE DETAILS OF HOW YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! There's most likely another way to get there than the way you've set this up.
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There might be an acceptable way to get an effect closer to what you want - beside just leaving the layers as they are and just closing up the group to keep your composition tidy. What's your obsession with merging, anyway? But for some reason you refuse to describe your actual goals.| -
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StrongBeaver wrote:
Is that image with the black background or without. I would like to have it without the black background but look as it does with the back background.
You said "The result should look as it did upon loading the Photoshop file with the black background" and "I would like to have it [...] look as it does with the black background"
The png file I posted ABOVE looks exaclty as the Photoshop file looks upon loading (opening). So why doesn't that meet your requirements?
If you toggle the bottommost layer's visibility and save as png file, you obtain the following file which corresponds to "I would like to have it without the black background", does it meet your requirements?
Note that the black areas in the image above are there REGARDLESS of what color your background layer has.
If I remove the 100% opaque black pixels from the picture in my previous posting (according to "with all transparent pixels removed, including the black background"), you obtain this:
If I remove the black "proportionally", the result is this:
Does any one of the 4 pictures posted above obtain or at least come closer to what you actually want to achieve?
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If so, it's easy:
(1) select the top-most element (layer or group) (in your case the group "GroupMerge")
(2) CTRL+ALT+SHIFT+E (stamp visible)
(3) with magic wand
(tolerance 0, contiguous: OFF, sample all layers: ON, sample size:
point sample) click somewhere in a black area (e.g. bottom right corner)(4) image > crop
(5) file > save as > png
And that's only if you absolutely want to merge, which in this case (if I understood your instructions quoted above correctly) is absolutely not necessary. All you have to do if you want to obtain the PNG file I posted are: steps 3-5.
Steps 1+2 (merging) are unnecessary in this case.
I tried steps 3-5 and I didn't get the same results instead I got a image with a black background, if I turn off the black background layer the results are the unexpected.
You said "The result should look as it did upon loading the Photoshop file with the black background" and "I would like to have it [...] look as it does with the black background"
The
png file I posted ABOVE looks exaclty as the Photoshop file looks upon
loading (opening). So why doesn't that meet your requirements?I made a typo that should have read "The result should look as it did upon loading the photoshop file with the black background except I would like the result to look as it does without the black background" My fault !
The thrid image in post #59 is exactly the result I want, I have to apply this technique a few times
There is a black background that does affect the rest of the
image. Turning it off give you you a completely different take on the
image.But then I'm just a amateur photographer and even more of a amateur when it come to PS.
The image goes either direction when the black background is turned off.
Yes most of this thread is misleading nonsense.
I explain this all in earlier messages, the advice before post #56 was either off or didn't work. Name calling for a thread is a waste I can understand 'where do I find the liquify tool', or 'how do I make a selection' but techniques such as this are far from non-sense, most always have to simply a situation as either good or bad, that is non-sense.
Stong Beaver, there is only one answer to this kind of thing - Copy Merged. This does a completely different thing to Merge Visible which you have tried already.
You
make an accurate selection of the areas that you want to "merge" and
then choose Edit - "Copy Merged'. Shortcut Control > Shift >C.
Then you Paste this into a new layer. This will always work
to preserve the appearance of the area, with the modes rendering with
the same visual effect. If this does not work, then you are viewing the
image at a strange viewing percentage before and after your Copy Merged.
Always view at 100% or 50% for this kind of thing.I tried this technique out once I get Christians working, hopefully.
It appears as though Janusull was the only one who could figure out my problem and I'll include Christian as well. I suppose I was speaking a foreign language to everyone else.
I need to flatten a series of layers within a group, which have
different blend modes. I've tried merging group, that resorts all
layers to 'normal mode',That was the original question, then I went into it with follow up replies then things started to go wakcy with questions from Noel. You can take sides all you want but I would have went in circles with post after post well beyond what it is currently, if I kept on the Charade with Noel.
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StrongBeaver wrote:
I made a typo that should have read "The result should look as it did upon loading the photoshop file with the black background except I would like the result to look as it does without the black background" My fault !
The thrid image in post #59 is exactly the result I want, I have to apply this technique a few times
The 3rd image in post #59? Ok.
But are you aware that "The result should look as it did upon loading the photoshop file with the black background" corresponds to the image in post #56. That's how your .psd file looks out-of-the-box (upon opening).
And "The result should look as it did upon loading the photoshop file with the black background except I would like the result to look as it does without the black background" corresponds to image 1 in post #59? That's when you just disable visibility of the bottommost layer.
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Christian - I followed only steps 3-5 in post #56. I'm not getting the resulting image, which when loaded in photoshop with a transparent background layer saves beautifully. I've selected the GroupMerge SubGroup with the magic wand tool with the settings described in post #56 then proceeding File > SaveAs > PNG and the result saves with a black background.
As for CopyMerged it works but the blackbackground is saved along with it, I don't want no blackbackground I want to save the file as a transparent PNG. I realize it's not difficult, but why am I not getting the results as displayed in the image below ?
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