Jerry,

I agree with your general thoughts, but I don't think a fact-checking thread is necessary. Instead, what we need is that users exercise discretion when replying to threads, and answer from a position of knowledge--not from an "understanding" or from marketing literature.

It's admirable that anyone should want to help--I understand the desire to do so, and that's why I'm here--but that "help" actually has to be helpful. Otherwise, it's a waste of the OP's time, the respondent's time, and the time of anyone who later comes across a thread with incorrect information. We're all busy people, and it serves no one--including Adobe--to provide anything but factual information about the software. A Google search for "premiere pro mvc editing" turns up this thread as the number one hit--that shows how potentially damaging that a thread with the wrong answer can be. That's why I have no remorse about calling out such incorrect information; this type of thing has a tendency to snowball, and it's breached epidemic proportions lately.

Again, I'm not trying to put the kibosh on anyone's desire to be helpful. I'm just making an open appeal that any responses be made with a keen awareness that, at least in Internet terms, they last forever. There is no shame in not knowing the answer.

Colin

This isn't a personal vendetta, Bill--just a personal crusade. Take it for what it's worth.

Hierarchy -  how it works sometimes....

Here's some thoughts about the forum and some help people get from the lesser planets and not so shining stars here.

1) Posters often get quick responses pointing them to posts or information the shining stars made available. So for references alone this means posters get faster responses... It's worth noting that sometimes posters don't know how to ASK the question they have, and the lesser planets sometimes manage to parse this into the appropriate response...

2) Sometimes posters have questions about where to find information about specific issues. Again, the lesser planets sometimes help guide them. For example, apparently not everyone can find all the groovy articles and help files and tuturorials available ( and being made now, added as we speak probably ).  If finding the information was easy ( or if some posters were more familiar with search functions and had a bit more patience to look for the info ) half the questions here would not be asked. With infinite patience the lesser planets sometimes help in this area.

Now it happens that a giant planet was not perfect ( once out of a about the last thousand times answering posts ). This planet I refer to has helped so many so many times it is impossible to stress that enough.

and here is what " check your facts " amounts to in this instance....

excerpts from Colin ==========

Anyone intentionally ( intentionally ? ) or mistakenly misleading someone....( paraphrased )
INTENTIONALLY ? IS EQUAL TO MAKING A MISTAKE ?

It's admirable that anyone should want to help--I understand the desire to do so, and that's why I'm here--but that "help" actually has to be helpful.
CONDESCENDING

This isn't a personal vendetta, Bill--just a personal crusade. Take it for what it's worth.
DELUSIONAL (personal crusade is OK - Hitler had one ) AND INSULTING ( take it for what it's worth -- which means suck eggs )

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If you employees can't see this for what it really is.... which is simply someone insulting someone else in the disguise of being righteous, you might consider visiting your human resource section and see what material they have on people communicating with each other in positive ways.

Well... that's what I think about this particular situation and I can't wait to see the responses....  Try not to be "funny" or "silly" ( like mention scary snakes or cupcakes or any of the genuinely hilarious stuff that some people here improve the forum with ... and socialize with ...  as being HUMAN in these serious threads might make someone believe "editing" and "entertainment" is supposed to be FUN.

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We can each mention the other's mistake and then just let it go, hoping  that our friends take the constructive criticism in the helpful spirit  in which it's intended.

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I agree...   it's history...

well... oh oh...ummmm, there was this little silly reference to some article in the robodog times today...maybe that too can be accepted in the proper light ??