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Using sidecar.xml to load results in the articles being loaded twice

Jun 19, 2011 4:08 AM

As a follow on from my previous question "What determines the loading order or Multiple Articles" http://forums.adobe.com/thread/866779?tstart=0 I thought I'd try importing using sidecar.xml as per this help article http://help.adobe.com/en_US/digitalpubsuite/using/WS67cb9e293e2f1f6014 465f4712f61e55c01-7fff.html#WS9293e1fb3b977c5c-3a30084513028f6630b-800 0

 

The folder - file structure is the same with the inclusion of the sidecar.xml in the root.

 

     Cover - cover_v.indd

     Page1 - page1_v.indd

     Page2 - page2_v.indd

     Page3 - page3_v.indd  

     Page4 - page4_v.indd

     Page5 - page5_v.indd  

     Page6 - page6_v.indd

     Page7 - page7_v.indd

     sidecar.xml  

 

Without changing the name of any of the folders or files within them I created an .xml file based on this help article http://help.adobe.com/en_US/digitalpubsuite/using/WS67cb9e293e2f1f6060 6c7754128c7a9c00e-7fff.html#WS67cb9e293e2f1f60-60a064012f65fafa88-8000

 

When I follow the instructions and use the import multiple articles and point to the root it load the files in the right order until it gets to the last article in the sidecar.xml and then it loads them all again but in the jumbled order from my "Multiple Articles" post. So I end up with 14 articles the first 7 in the right order the last screwed up.

 

Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

Here's part of the xml file, the entry info for page1 is just replicated and the names changed.

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>

 

<sidecar>

 

    <entry>

 

        <folderName>Cover</folderName>

 

        <articleTitle>Cover</articleTitle>

 

        <byline>byline</byline>

 

        <author>author</author>

 

        <kicker>kicker</kicker>

 

        <description>description</description>

 

        <tags>tag1, tag2</tags>

 

        <isAd>false</isAd>

 

        <smoothScrolling>never</smoothScrolling>

 

        <isFlattenedStack>false</isFlattenedStack>

 

    </entry>

 

    <entry>

 

        <folderName>Page1</folderName>

 

        <articleTitle>title</articleTitle>

 

        <byline>byline</byline>

 

        <author>author</author>

 

        <kicker>kicker</kicker>

 

        <description>description</description>

 

        <tags>tag1, tag2</tags>

 

        <isAd>false</isAd>

 

        <smoothScrolling>never</smoothScrolling>

 

        <isFlattenedStack>false</isFlattenedStack>

 

    </entry>

 

</sidecar>

 

thanks,

 

Tony

 
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    Jun 19, 2011 6:40 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    that solution is easy: Put the sidecar.xml in an separate directory for ONLY the sidecar.xml file.

    And Import THAT folder.

     

    (In your case the folio builder acted as expected, importing all the indesign files again)

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 6:53 AM   in reply to Johannes Eckert

    Interesting. I did this myself with a test a while back and didn't have that happen.

     

    Everything came in correctly with the sidecar in the root folder.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 7:10 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    Try this, Tony.

     

    Create a new folio and then import all of the articles WITHOUT the sidecar. Then put the sidecar into a new folder and import that folder as an article.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 7:47 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    Don't include the sidecar folder in the folio folder.

     

    Do the folio first. Create a new folder OUTSIDE the folio folder and put the sidecar file in it. After the folio has been imported, add the folder with the sidecar.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:01 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    DO NOT put the sidecar folder into the same folder with the folio. Try it again.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:21 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    When you're first importing a set of articles in a folio, the sidecar.XML file goes on the same level as the article folders in the folio folder. But when you're using the sidecar.xml file to update properties, the sidecar.xml file needs to be in its own folder, and you need to import it using the Multiple option, not the Single option. Point to the folder containing the sidecar file.

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 8:54 AM   in reply to Bob Bringhurst

    Forgot about choosing multiple files for the sidecar folder.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 19, 2011 9:06 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    I have no idea why it's not working at all. Very strange indeed.

     

    My only other idea is to try trashing your InDesign preferences.

     

    Bob

     
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:37 PM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    Same problem here, try to update the articles via "sidecar" and nothing.
    I erase all the prefs files but no success

     
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    Jun 20, 2012 2:43 PM   in reply to carlosgarro

    Did you put the sidecar.xml file in its own folder? Did you select the Multiple Files option when importing?

     
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    Jun 20, 2012 3:43 PM   in reply to Bob Bringhurst

    Yes Bob I follow the instructions but nothing.

    I try with different new folios (for testing purposes only) but still not working. Any idea?

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 9:53 AM   in reply to Bob Bringhurst

    I discover the problem: "if you use PDF as your default format the sidecar.xml do not work"

    Is this bug reported?

    Thanks

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:14 AM   in reply to carlosgarro

    No. It's new. Let me get our QE staff looking at it.

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:16 AM   in reply to John J Metzger

    can you post your actual sidecar.xml file here please?

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:17 AM   in reply to John J Metzger

    Thanks John

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:25 AM   in reply to John J Metzger

    Here's the sidecar:

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>

    <sidecar>

              <entry>

           <folderName>primera</folderName>

           <articleTitle>Portada Carlos</articleTitle>

           <byline>Carlos Garro</byline>

           <author>Leo</author>

           <kicker>Seccion Portada</kicker>

           <description>Este es la Portada</description>

           <tags>indice dps</tags>

           <isAd>false</isAd>

           <smoothScrolling>never</smoothScrolling>

           <isFlattenedStack>false</isFlattenedStack>

        </entry>

        <entry>

           <folderName>segunda</folderName>

           <articleTitle>Prólogo</articleTitle>

           <byline>Carlos Garro</byline>

           <author>Leo</author>

           <kicker>Seccion Dos</kicker>

           <description>Este es la Dos</description>

           <tags>indice dps</tags>

           <isAd>false</isAd>

           <smoothScrolling>never</smoothScrolling>

           <isFlattenedStack>false</isFlattenedStack>

        </entry>

    </sidecar>

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 10:59 AM   in reply to carlosgarro

    When you updated the article metadata, did you target the folio folder with the article subfolders, or did you target a folder that has only the sidecar.xml file?

     

    >>>>

     

    Use sidecar.xml for updating article properties

    If you want to use the sidecar.xml file to update your article metadata or change the order of articles, you can use the Folio Builder panel to import the sidecar.xml file.

    1.   Create or edit the sidecar.xml file for your folio. See Create a metadata sidecar file for importing articles
    2. Copy or move the sidecar.xml file to its own folder.

    3. In the Folio Builder panel, open the folio you want to edit, and choose Import from the panel menu.

    4. Select Import Multiple Articles, specify the folder in which the sidecar.xml file is located, and click OK.

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 11:07 AM   in reply to Bob Bringhurst

    I target the folder that has only the sidecar.xml file.

    But when the default format is PDF do not work.

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 11:24 AM   in reply to Tony Redhead

    Can you set the video to Public? Thanks.

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 1:50 PM   in reply to carlosgarro

    Carlos...what version of InDesign are you using, what platform and OS and if Cs5 or CS5.5 what version of the DPS authoring tools?

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 2:40 PM   in reply to John J Metzger

    Hi John:

     

    I'm trying on two platforms

    1- ID CS5.5 > Tools v.19 > on MacOSX Lion

    2- ID CS6 > Latest Tools > on MacOSX Lion

     

    Thanks

     
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    Jun 21, 2012 3:21 PM   in reply to carlosgarro

    We've been unable to duplicate the problem here. Can you zip up your directory structure, includingsidecar.xml and put it on dropbox or somewhere and send me an invite at jmetzger at adobe dot com?

     
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    Jun 22, 2012 7:22 AM   in reply to John J Metzger

    Let me prepare the files this weekend.

    Thanks in advance ;D

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 12:31 PM   in reply to Bob Bringhurst

    Can I use the sidecar.xml to add new articles to my folio?

     

    If so, where should I put sidecar.xml, on the root folder of the publication or on it's own folder?

     

    Diego

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 12:35 PM   in reply to Diego Souza Mello

    Put it in its own folder and use the import multiple articles command.

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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